Yeah, let's not risk a klackerz judge.

 

ika: Blah me thinking Rubicon was a town was a mistake of mine And GD!info is the only reason I think that he's the scum. If you don't like it, well sorry that's the only reason I have and the only one you are getting. And I think main reason you think I am scum is because of fonti defending which is quite absurd and laughable tbh and also some assumptions based on my d2 posts.

Anyway, If you want to lynch me. Go ahead.

BillDoor: So post what will happen if I get lynched today and I am town. If town wins , okay. If town loses, I blame ika.

Apprentice scum with scum!fonti is also a possibility or apprentice!fonti of course.

Anyway we have the 'honour' of being the mafia game with the most number of posts.

 

Klacerz, do you believe Fonti was town?

 

Why would this line of reasoning be absurd or laughable?

 

I really don't know what to believe now. >_>

In all seriousness I think fonti is scum. If fonti was town, I have no idea what her motivation was in defending me.

 

Is there any doubt in your mind at all that Fonti could be town?

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Why is it taking so long to answer this question?

 

Cause I am busy . Anyway yeah I have little to no doubt. I'll be as surprised as ika will bd at the end of this game if she turns out to be town.

BillDoor: scum fonti defending me in such a fucking suspicious way which then makes me scum makes it laughable.

Anyway Why is Citrus checking the thread and not saying anything.

 

Because I just opened it and I just finished reading through?

Snowvon is still scum

I'm working right now, I'll be back later and give my thoughts

 

Vote Counts stolen from info board.. Kai bolded, Rubicon italics, Fonti underlined
Selected VCs only

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Vote Count 2.2 (#1480)
(8 to lynch, 10 for supermajority)

KaiDASH (5): Titus, Riley Poole, Snowvon, Atum, Bill Door
Rubicon (4): KaiDASH, fontisian, Polysemous, blab
fontisian (3): Rubicon, Citrus, ika
Luckylee (1): Luckylee
Atum (1): klackerz

Abstain (1): Lyrium


Vote Count 2.1 (#1256)
(8 to lynch, 10 for supermajority)

]Rubicon (4): KaiDASH, fontisian, Snowvon, Polysemous
fontisian (2): Rubicon, Citrus
Luckylee (2): Bill Door, Luckylee
KaiDASH (2): blab, Titus
Atum (1): klackerz
klackerz (1): Atum
ika (1): ika

Abstain (2): Riley Poole, Lyrium


Vote Count 2.0 (#822)
(8 to lynch, 10 for supermajority)

fontisian (4): Titus, KaiDASH, Luckylee, Rubicon
KaiDASH (4): fontisian, blab, Lyrium, Snowvon
Atum (2): klackerz, Polysemous
Luckylee (2): Citrus, Bill Door
Titus (1): ika
klackerz (1): Atum

Abstain (1): Riley Poole

Vote Count 1.9 (#678)
(8 to lynch, 10 for supermajority)

fontisian (5): Titus, KaiDASH, ika, Bill Door, Luckylee
Atum (3): klackerz, Polysemous, Snowvon
KaiDASH (2): fontisian, blab
Luckylee (1): Citrus
klackerz (1): Rubicon
Riley Poole (1): Lyrium

Abstain (2): Atum, Riley Poole

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K, saying the point is laughable does not explain Why it is laughable. I quite like the theory combined with the alleged scumslip.

If we have an town apprentice who claims judge, I'll suggest lynching you in a heartbeat.

As for why Citrus isn't posting, scum that don't post give no information. They can't sink or help you.

 

fontisian (2): Rubicon, Citrus

Titus do you really think this makes sense in a scum fonti world? No one busses that hard on D1.

 

Except I'm town. I'm teaching a fucking class and can only look at the forum for a few minutes at a time, so I don't want to start a longer post that I lose before being able to post.

Why don't you get off my back for not posting to your heart's content, I'm sorry I can't be 25% of the fucking thread like you are

 

Yes. Early day one wagons almost never end up being the final wagon. In Mini Upick, I opened with a vote on my scumbuddy Venmar.

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=54&t=36900

Here's a link if you're interested.

Early wagons rarely wind up being the final wagons.

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I'm only a quarter of the thread? Wow... that needs to improve.

 

Fontisian's reads:

"I will not lynch
fontisian, klackerz, Lyrium, Riley Poole, blab, Snowvon, Bill Door, Titus, ika

I rather not lynch
Polysemous, Luckylee

I'm willing to lynch
Atum

I want to lynch
KaiDASH, Citrus, Rubicon"

At an earlier point her reads were a bit different, but these are close to her last reads.

The reason I waver on Fontisian's alignment and the reason she seemed scummy included her hardcore defense of klackerz, Polysemous (more understandable but still let's say she didn't want to lynch noob on first day, at least she could have speculated on role\alignment\team,) and Riley.

Fonti and Titus are probably opposite alignments. I don't see Fontisian condoning her self-murder on day one. Bussing yes but self-murder probably not since getting her lynched is difficult. Her move from Vira\KaiDash, who she heavily pushed as her top scum all day long, to Rubicon comes after the lynch one\bomb one special.

I can see Titus bombing Fontisian based on my reads as either town or scum. Need to go over Titus again and also see an actual scum game of hers. Thanks for the link Titus, will check it out. Since on reread before day was over KaiDash had started seeming more town and now on reread Fontisian is seeming more mystery.

I'm more inclined to town!Titus and scum!Fonti at this point.

KaiDash was "tempted" to out Fonti's role but had also seemed to clear her based on that (her alignment). Well he and she are both sharing their lovely thoughts on how to solve the puzzle in their QTs. He's town and she's an enigma.

Since Fontisian was wrong about KaiDash, he is a town Loose Canon, but she pushed for his lynch for quite a long time then moved onto Rubicon kind of towards the end...then it was possible that she was going for a Judge lynch (several people were part of the preventing a lynch thing) or she got what she needed from KaiDash to clear him which is meta I don't know and can't speculate on.

Why would Fontisian hardcore defend klackerz?

There were only two reason I could think of: she is the apprentice and knows his role aka "You will learn who has that character," which doesn't specify alignment. Correct me if I'm wrong but from the "how to play" a character can be of any alignment so apprentice knows who has the role but not their alignment (unless they are a scum!Apprentice by which they know their fellow witch or that the person is town).

Other reason to defend klackerz is that she is the acolyte and he is the priest. That seems to not be the case here.

Or she read his role from some obscure point he made. That is plausible but in the realm of astrology in terms of provability. Also why hardcore defend the Judge? She seemed to be against judge lynches and thought GD was the better role.

Or he is her scum buddy and given a witch role that is strategically key. I don't like to do the "how would a witch think" but she was buddying so hard and publicly which doesn't even make sense.

KaiDash was utterly village peasant so he got the card Heavenly Chorus. He clearly stated not to use cards unless endgame. Therefore, I don't expect him to use it until he see's a clear reason to do so.

Citrus, when you can give your last reads or where you're at. Same for Snowvon. Give your reads on every fucker in the game, please and thanks.

As for blab. He buddied Fonti pretty hard and was all over the place with KaiDash. Most of his posts towards me wanted me to ignore Fonti and focus on KaiDash and then moved onto Rubicon.

Some blab quotes:

"5. I am not exactly sure how much info a Kai flip gives. Beyond scum!Kai=>town!font probably"

He also tunnels Rubicon pretty hard which is plus points.

"fonti, why do you think klackerz is not scum_x, where x is his role that is so totally obvious to anyone who is actually rolehunting=>scum? "

He's on a Rubicon\Citrus scum team early on with a couple of people floating in or out. (KaiDash, Lucky, Bill,).

blab, can you be trusted by a townie?

Oh and:

KaiDash, Villager, Loose Canon
Rubicon, Witch, Gambler

 

Lyrium : Apprentice does not get information about alignment. I asked in the qt after fonti ' s defense of me.

 

Lyriym, Fonti was pretty clear cuz rolread. Yet, he postulated scum Judge. Either his roleread was wrong, or it makes no sense.

Fonti can't be apprentice eho picked jydge and townread K for his role. He wouldn't postilate that K was scum. Eiyher Fonti's roleread was wrong or Fonti was scum.

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If you need more game information, look at my sig on mafia scum.

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What do you think of K, Fonti, Citrus, Rubicon?

 

ika what made you think klackerz was scum? Or judge for that matter.

 

Atum, can you read? I already asked ika that.

Also, K claimed judge in 1915.

 

Woo. 10 minute break before I disappear for two and a half more hours.

Citrus, why are you assuming Survivalist = scum? Why did you claim that role specifically? It hurt my feelings, having my identity yanked from me.

If Witch Trick was used, then we both have the same amount of lives, and Lyrium will be the only one who can dispute your lies.

 

Point me to it, Titus. And I'm aware, but ika had his role pinned before he claimed and I'd like to know how and why he outed him.

 

meh I think he got it because of me and ika interacting after ika's insistence of a scum!judge.