Was it a long post? If so, I commiserate with you, happened more than once to me.

 

The Jon/Stannis interacttion made me happy enough to be honest. I love those two in the books and hope they include "the nod" from Stannis to Jon, in season 5.

I don't understand why the Child of the forest can throw fireballs. When did we start watching a World of Warcraft live action tv show...?

 

No, not fireballs. A grenade of sorts, incendiary in nature. Click the image to enlarge it.



Also, anyone noticed Tyrion used the same crossbow that Joffrey did before?

 

Why, hello, new verb. I think I like thee.
And, yes, it was.

Get Lazarus. Trust me on this.

All this talk of discrepancies between the books and TV series are going to force me to read the books...
Damn.

And, all this talk about Dany's scenes being boring made me examine my feelings on the matter... which made me realize I pretty much feel the same way. They've become fast forward bait.

...
Ambivalent?

 

Equivocal - of uncertain disposition toward a person or thing : undecided

 

Heh, it just struck me as unusual, that's all; I don't think I've ever heard a person refer to themselves as being 'equivocal,' rather than 'ambivalent.'

Interestingly (or not) it seems that ideas or things get labeled as 'equivocal' a lot, while people... not nearly as much.

On Topic: So, I take it that the Brienne vs Sandor fight doesn't go down like that (or at all) in the books...

Not that GoT isn't filled with senseless acts, but the whole thing did strike me as somewhat... well, senseless (of Brienne, at least, if not Sandor). Trying to uphold a defunct and obviously flawed oath, solely for the sake of upholding the oath, is as bad in its own way as Sandor's outlook on life.

Of course, in the end, it could come down to something as simple as, 'Well, I'm saying "Oath" but what I'm thinking is "A little girl traveling with a large, violent, man? No good can come of this."'

In that case, there were probably a million better ways of achieving that end without a head-on physical confrontation, but I guess neither Brienne, nor The Hound, are exactly built for the sneakier solutions... it's not in their makeup.

Was still a cool fight, though.

 

Finale was baller. The stuff that was changed didn't really subtract from the plot, and in some cases, they made it better (Arya Hound death scene).

Not looking forward to the year long wait. 10 episodes just isn't enough anymore, what with things slowing down plot/action wise. They should bump to 13- 14 eps per season, and do some world building.

Lady Stoneheart season opener next year plox.

 

Spoiler

Safety!? Where the fuck's that?
Her Aunt in the Eyrie is dead
Her mother's dead
Her father's dead
Her brother's dead
Winterfell is a pile of rubble
There is no safety, you dumb bitch
You don't know that by now, you're the wrong one to watch over her.

I just loved this scene. While the Hound certainly isn't someone you'd want influencing small children by being around them on a 24/7 basis, for safety you can't get any better.

Brienne really wasn't thinking this through and I found it hilarious how she's all about keeping her oath, without ever thinking where the fuck she could take Arya, and how quickly she gave up looking for her after she shouted "ARYA!" a few times.

Oh and as for the fight, as far as the books are concerned, never happened. Brienne and the Hound never meet in the books and while Brienne is an accomplished fighter, she isn't that good.

People like to bring up how she beat up Jaime, while conveniently forgetting that Jaime was a prisoner very recently up until their fight, kept in a pen and fed just the very basic slop he needed to survive. Even so, in the books Brienne only manages to beat him after Jaime's footing slips in one moment, otherwise he would have defeated her.

And as far as Loras goes, he's only good at jousting, if you want to look for a good swordsman in the Tyrell family, that would be Garlan Tyrell who does not make an appearance in the show. I'm not sure if he's even mentioned.

It's Brienne who gets into a fight with Rorge and Biter in the books, not the Hound, gets her cheek chewed off by Biter and is only saved by Gendry's intervention.

Anyhow, of the whole fight, it surprised me Brienne was still conscious enough, after the Hound hit her with a mailed fist in the face several times and then bashed her head with his own, to actually fight him off.

 

He isn't. Loras Tyrell is Mace's heir in TV show.

 

That's going to make it even more stupid if they name Loras to the Kingsguard, which will effectively rob Mace of an heir. But seeing as how we only see mentions of Meryn Trant and scant few others, the Kingsguard might not even really be of any importance in the upcoming season.

 

@Odran: Seconded for the best lines in the entire episode, followed by Jon Snow's "If my father had seen what I've seen . . ."

It was pretty obvious he had just stomped her logically, at which point she's forced to draw, because . . . how is he not 100% right (considering what each of them knows)?

 

:facepalm
Having three eyes or opening your third eye is a common way to express that a character has "the sight" (unless it's DBZ, in which that means the character is Tien Shinhan).

Brynden Rivers having a thousand eyes while hooked up to trees in a cave would be pretty useless. His thousand eyes are the creatures that he uses to see what's going on in the world.

@Odran: Since Tywin wants to marry Cersei to Loras, he's obviously planning to remove him from the Kingsguard, thus reinstating him as heir to Highgarden.
But yeah, naming him to the Kingsguard when there are no other heirs was pretty stupid and a "Fuck you" to the Tyrells at best (much like allowing Jamie to become a Kingsguard was a move against Tywin).

 

They have already avoided this if I recall, Tywin actually threatens to put loras on the kingsguard to blackmail the Tyrells (it's one of the Tywin/olenna scenes).

Is it just me or has the show gone out of its way to mess with most of Jamie's defining qualities?
Brilliant swordsman? Nope, easily bested by brienne
Devoted to cersei? nope, rapes her on her dead child
Respects the ideals and history of the kings guard? Nope, fucks Cersei while throwing the white book on the floor
Everlingering guilt over tyrion? Nope, hug and "see you bro"

 

LOL. World, that was me being sarcastic and poking fun at 'teh' magical Children(gotta work on my 'outrage'). I'm quite aware about him using animals to spy and being the former Hand of the King(and was his own spymaster) is from where the phrase 'A thousand Eyes and One' was coined (Brynden had one eye, and a truckload of spies - a thousand eyes. Then, there were rumors of him dabbling in sorcery as an explanation how he was so effective as the MoW).


Loras isn't in Kingsguard. Tywin threatened Olenna with that if she didn't agree to Loras marrying Cersei.

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No, it's not just you. They are 'remodeling' him a lot and I think they cheapen his character to prop up Cersei. But you have to look at it in a different way gs17. Show Jaime is a lot tamer than book Jaime mostly because he didn't get as much opportunity to exposit. So him not being as 'impressive' isn't a big thing to me, though, I'd prefer if they didn't use him so much as an extra to Cersei 'I-Love-My-Children-So-Much'.
The one thing that really bugs me is the sex on the White Table, I thought Jaime would start taking his KG vows a lot more seriously after the whole Joffrey gets poisoned and then he goes and boinks with The Mother of Madness on Kingsguard brotherhood table. It goes only to show that Cersei still leads him around by his cock and holds his balls in a jar.

 

I had that suspicion, but considering your use of "le sigh" I decided to go with the "fuckwit" interpretation.

I totally forgot about the Tywin/Oleanna - scene. Yeah, Loras isn't in the kingsguard in the show.

 

Just a few tidbits about the ep.

(Also, no Stoneheart, Headey you bitchhhhh...)

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It's Arya, not Aria.

And "whose", not who's.

Continue on with the thread.

 

That's part of what Control is all about.

Pretty much everything that went through my head when I said the confrontation was senseless.
I laughed.

But, I also 'cried.'

 

Found it:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qVxakhDKn60

The orgasmic music that ended the season.

 

Here's Why The 'Game Of Thrones' Finale Left Out That One Big Thing.

...Space? SPACE? You couldn't find anywhere to put her in?
Yep. Totally get that. Can't think of a single scene that couldn't have been cut from the finale, let alone half of them.
Or this season, for that matter, we absolutely needed the eunuch love story among other things, well said, sir.

...Holy shit.
A zombie that just kills people? That's all he thinks the character is?!
She's not just some Wight that wanders in: It shows how even the best intended people caught up in a storm can be utterly TWISTED by hate.
It shows how a good person can become an absolute monster, something this series has been lacking.
If you as a writer can't figure out what to do with this character or how to go about it, you're fucking awful at your job.

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