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Crusader Kings 2

Discussion in 'Gaming and PC Discussion' started by Coyote, Feb 20, 2012.

  1. Odran

    Odran Fourth Champion

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    And Arianne was never unfaithful to Robb? I ask because she does have that promiscuous nature of hers after all.

    Also, I tend to play mostly as a lord from the North, Bolton more often than anything else, though I have played as a Karstark and a Mormont at one point, but those games weren't all that interesting, so I went back to playing Boltons during many of the periods that the game offers to you. I mostly play as them because I always plan on overtaking the North from the Starks, I'm never content with being just a lord and it just seems right that a Bolton should do that. Sure, it might take me a generation or two to make it happen, but I tend to win more often than I lose.

    Yeah, Bleeding Years are pretty good if you just want to conquer an already fractured Westeros, without having to look over your shoulder for incoming armies. Also, good time to get the ambition to acquire a Valyrian blade. I just wish I knew somehow which of the blacksmiths is actually competent, so that they don't ruin the Valyrian steel when I want it reforged into something specific.

    Oh and I played once during Aegon's Conquest as Harren the Black and smashed the silly Targs into oblivion, though his dragons decimated a great number of my soldiers. Hell, they even killed my heir in one battle, burned him to death by a dragon, for which I took restitution by kidnapping Visenya and Rhaenys and drowning them, as befits a Drowned God worshiper. I also made sure to kill Orys Baratheon and to dispose of Aegon's twin children. No one fucks with Harren the Black.
     
  2. Brukel

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    With the blacksmiths pick the one's with honorable or content if you don't want them bailing to another court.

    I play the Dance a lot, but usually as a count so my encounters with the dragons are usually quite limited aside from the one time that I had my Connington character sail to Dragonstone and nab one. It's a fun scenario if you want a war that doesn't favor one side to heavily (at this point the Black's have won as often as they've lost) and is a bit more high fantasy that the later time lines are.
     
  3. Odran

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    I don't mind them running away, they're easily kidnapped and then flayed alive. My problem is more finding someone competent who won't ruin and waste the Valyrian steel I give him to reforge.

    Nab one? How exactly do you go on about doing that?
     
  4. Probellum

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    So, Odran made a comment about maybe trying out Jon Snow during AFFC, when Stannis offers him The North and Val for a wife. Decided to try it out yesterday and a bit of today. Unfortunately the game crashed and when I tried to load up the saves, it turns out they got corrupted. No idea how.

    Anyway, in the few years of in-game time I had, a couple interesting things happened. First off, you should know that accepting Stannis' offer? Maybe not such a good idea. You're still basically stuck at the wall and you no longer have command of Night's Watch, obviously. You'll get a few men who join you you, but only about 10 or so.

    So, my only real choice was to rely on Stannis which sounded boring as fuck. So, I turned to intrigue to help me out and started off by murdering the Boltons, because fuck those guys.

    I thought that'd give me Winterfell, but instead it jut went Maege Mormont. Well, I hadn't been lazy and had started gathering some money to improve what little holding I had. Then I hired some Sellswords, declared war for my claim on the North and attacked. Then the bitch decided to bend the knee to Tommen and the war ended inconclusively.

    I was not ready to give up yet, though! At some point Stannis got captured and Davos was leading armies in his place. He asked me to become Castellan for him in Storm's End after he fucked up Aegon and then had me leading some troops to beat back the Reach who was trying to bud in on his territory. While all that was going on I had started a plot to kidnap Tommen. When I was nearing about 140% Plot Power, i declared War on him for my claim on the North, Winterfell and yada yada.

    All too soon, my plot came into play and I got him to surrender to my enforced demands. And Boom, I became the Lord Paramount of the North and Sansa popped out of the woodworks in the Vale. It was about this point where Val finally got pregnant and 9 months later we had a on I named Robb in honor of my fallen brother.

    However, enforcing my demands made Tommen my new liege and I couldn't stand for that, but I couldn't declare war w/o becoming known as a Truce Breaker. So I had him killed off via plot. Then I declared war on and kidnapped Myrcella a year or so later, to reclaim Widow's Wail and reforge it back into Ice. Then I put Stannis on the Iron Throne.

    Except things were getting boring again, and some parts of the North had declared their independence during all the chaos, so I went to War w/ Stannis to get my claim back on all those places. This ended in Stannis' death and Melisandre was taking a nice vacation in my dungeons.

    For some reason this put Daenerys on the Iron Throne? Not sure how that worked out, but it happened.

    During this, Jon and Val had two more kids a Daughter I named Arya, because she had yet to pop up and another Son who I named Eddard.

    I had a weak claim on the Vale through Sansa who was now in my Court and I was about to go to war with them, but the game crashed =/
     
  5. Brukel

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    There'll be a couple of events that come up saying there is a call going out to all Dragonseeds, once that happens I hired some ships chucked Connington on them and sailed to Dragonstone. the Stormlands stayed out of the war proper so there was no issue with my guys chilling on Dragonstone. Anyway after a while an event came up saying face the dragon. I clicked it and the standard tame, fight, or run choices came up. I clicked tame and then got the option of Sheepstealer, Cannibal or Grey Ghost. I picked Sheepstealer and managed to tame it and then just went back to the Stormlands.

    If you want an adult dragon and you can get to Dragonstone it's reasonably easy to get one provided you're lucky enough. There are a few things that need to happen though i.e I think the lord of Dragonstone can't be a rider or something? there's a bit more to it, but that was last version and it might have changed since. EU4's been taking up most of my time recently and I haven't played CK2 as much as I used to. But it used to be pretty easy enough provided what's her face got in a dragon battle and lost her dragon which happened reasonably frequently.
     
  6. Odran

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    Oh I did end up playing as Jon during AFFC, and Stannis pretty much defeated the Boltons swiftly and gave me control of the North in exchange for my allegiance. Naturally, we went on to have many adventures that included Jon and Stannis raping the everloving shit out of everything below the Neck, fighting off the Ironborn, killing Aegon and his 10k of Crying Babbies, converting to R'hllor at one point, imprisoning and burning Sansa Stark alive for plotting against my heir, eventually exterminating the Lannisters, Tyrells and Freys. Good god, it took me ages to kill off every Frey and I even started a war with Edmure Tully because he was upset I burned his wife and child alive. Ungrateful bastard, I was helping him keep the bloodline pure of Frey filth. I laughed like hell when Edmure was killed in personal combat by some Manderly knight. I like to imagine he made him into a pie afterwards.

    In any case, the married life I had with Val was predictably good, and holy hell she was fertile, I ended up with 6 sons and 10 daughters. A lot of them were twins. And all mine. I actually checked with "charinfo 1" just in case.

    That made damn sure that the Starks would never die out, as I married off all my daughters in matrilineal marriages and even managed to betroth a son of mine to a daughter of Shireen's, who was reigning as Queen with a Seaworth husband by her side.

    I think that I best liked about this is how Jon actually became friends with Stannis and Davos. I made damn sure both lived long enough to die of old age and any sort of plot against them I had foiled by whatever means that were available to me.

    Ah, that's the Dance of Dragons period, I imagine?
     
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  7. Brukel

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    Yeah I imagine it applies at any point where there are wild dragons at Dragonstone, but you can't do it when the Iron Throne controls Dragonstone or something, so Dance is about the only time it works.
     
  8. Nauro

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    My only attempt at Jon's start bugged out. I trailed after Stanis' host until he beat Bolton (I think I participated in exactly one battle), and then got the north. Meanwhile, in the south, Stanis was loosing horribly.

    He then managed to get captured. Our warscore was -100%. And the war didn't end.
    Attrition reaped a lot of enemy troops. And the war didn't end. I retook the Riverlands, and yet the war still didn't end.
    Then, one by one my vassals jumped to join in with Tommen. For some reason or other, soon I was continuously squishing former allied vassal troops in the north. I think I killed Tommen via plot meanwhile, but the war still continued (I think he managed to have a 1 year old son who inherited by that point), with -100% progress.

    Then I decided that the game was hecked up and I dropped it.
     
  9. Sn0rkack

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    I started one with Tommen the other day cause Joffrey is a little shit and wanted to King. Whelp, the Iron Bank wanted their money so I told them to eat shit. Not long after that bitch Margaery had the balls to kill me, leaving my play-through looking bleak. Thus enters Myrcella, first of her name...You think Arya is a badass? With Widow's Wail in hand Queen Myrcella brought the Seven Kingdoms to its knees.

    http://i.gyazo.com/d2d012f2dc3300af37d60244e28b24b4.png

    Stannis? I smashed him so hard he bent the knee and became my Master At Arms. The North? Some Glover took Winterfell when Jon Snow remained at the Wall. He too was smashed after foolishly declaring himself King in the North and marching south with barely enough men to raid a pantry. Aegon? Even with the Iron Bank backing him he was little more than a gnat. Dany? LMAO her and her husband Jorah met a bloody end (I let her child Rhaella flee back to Mereen where she quickly found her territories under assault by those eastern cunts; not to mention someone by the name of Red Beard slayed Drogon years before she even set sights on my Throne).

    First marriage to Trystane seemed promising until he tried laying claim to my lands...after an heir was born I kicked his ass back to Dorne especially after Dorne sided with the usurper Aegon. I chose to remarry with Bran the Broken when he resurfaced, also giving me a claim to the North. He died at 31 but not before giving me several children. As it is my heir is prince of Dorne, another son is lord of Casterly Rock and I can claim the North whenever I so chose.

    Best part? Current score is -600.
     
  10. Odran

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    That's magnificent, Sn0rkack. Can't say I ever had Kelly C come back to Westeros to try and claim it. Most of the time in my games she got killed off while in Essos.

    I wasn't aware you could play as a female character in Westeros, sans Dorne.
     
  11. Sn0rkack

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    It was pretty hilarious actually. She declared war so I mobilized my army and am like, "OK, here she comes!" A minute later I'm asking myself "Where the fuck is she...?" Bitch declares war and I see her fleet of 10k troops coming at me on ships. She lands and her troops get smashed by my force of 3 times as many men, she sails back, picks up 10k come and comes back, again. Eventually I just hired mercenaries ships to sail my troops over to Mereen and smashed her once and for all.
     
  12. Brukel

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    The funniest bits are when she dies and her closest living heir inherits.... Enter Stannis King of Slavers Bay.
     
  13. Hashasheen

    Hashasheen Half-Blood Prince

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    What bugs me about that is apparently you can pick up the Unsullied as your own personal fighting force ala the Varangian Guard. Hax, I say. Hax!
     
  14. halfwaydecent

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    I've never actually had problems with her being unfaithful, but that could be because I've never used charinfo to double check if her kids were mine. Now that you mention it, some of them probably weren't...

    I like colonizing Oldstones as soon as I get enough money because it can get you a claim on the Riverlands and also a Valyrian Steel sword which is pretty awesome.

    Dany always seems to die a weird ass death. In my most recent game as Aurane Waters Dany was actually eaten by Drogon then Viserion and Rhaegal ended up flying to Sunspear for some reason while rogon stayed with some random lord in Essos (I think it was in Mereen, which was now part of Yunkai). So yeah, Kelly C I've only actually had come to Westeros alive once in the AFFC scenario, but that was because I married her to Jon for the Iron Throne and a dragon. I later killed her because she wasn't giving me any heirs and all through the marriage I had an affair with both Cersei and Margaery Tyrell because why the fuck not.
     
  15. Odran

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    For some reason I'm both horrified and amused. Seriously though, in ASOIAF, it's really better off not sticking your dick in crazy. And you don't get crazier than Cersei Lannister. Also, eww, Tyrell sloppy thousands.
     
  16. Sn0rkack

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    Arianne was unfaithful to me as well one time I married her...I played one as Rhaegar and sided with Robert and Ned (lmao!) so Aerys executed Aegon but somehow Elia and Rhaenays lived on. Then I learned Elia is celibate. W/e, Viserys was alive so needing an heir wasn't super important to me. We fight for a little then suddnely Aerys is dead, I'm king and the war is over though Robert, Ned still despise me and Dany is never born. I let Robert have Lyanna back only to discover she wants a piece of the dragon! So I bed her and in typical Ck2 fashion she gets preggers and we pass Steffon off as Robert's son and heir, a silver-haired son and heir. I start planning a match for Viserys only for him to be assassinated by some Hightower cunt from the Reach, tried to capture her and the bitch escaped justice, so I plotted her husband's murder, then hers. Now I really needed an heir so I kicked Elia to the curb and married Arianne in her place, in my mind a way to please Dorne. Rhaenys was coming off age so I betrothed her to Tyrion and my first child with Arianne was a girl so I betrothed her to the heir of Storm's End, in typical Targaryen fashion, her brother!

    Everything was okay for a while. I had a son and heir (this was before Arianne was pregnant then a minute later the game is all, "Your joy turned to w/e when you learned the child wasn't yours), the realm was nice and safe and then my Master of Arms declared war on me, after all this time. Robert fucking Baratheon declares war again after over a decade...So I ride out to meet him and what do you fucking know he slays me in single combat.

    So my toddler son is king...only for Robert to now declare war on him, a child king. I ended my playthrough there before I could see the Targaryens crushed by Bobby B once again, though I took pleasure in knowing they would live on through his son.
     
  17. Odran

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    You complete and utter bastard.

    Edit: today was a good day.

    [​IMG]

    This happened right after I kidnapped and flayed Rickard, Brandon, Benjen and Lyanna.

    The truly hilarious thing is that most of the North sided with me rather than Ned. No idea why.
     
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  18. Probellum

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    So, for the past couple days I've had a game of Ck2 open in the background, going slowly. About 9 years have passed. I went with Eddard, from the start of Robert's rebellion onwards.

    That went about as normal. Except, it took 10 months, instead of a year or more and Lyanna survived. I still took in Jon Snow, of course, but this is just the slow start of some lulzy stuff.

    So, Lyanna survived and is now Queen alongside Robert, I've got Jon Snow who'll grow up thinking he's my son and I'm married to Catelyn Tully. I decide it's best I start gaining funds to imrpove my holdings and slowly build things up. Winterfell is about halfway complete, last i checked.

    Anyway, Benjen never went to the North, so after a couple years he asked for some land of his own -fine, i gave him some.

    I was getting bored, so I decided it was time to kill off some Freys -that took awhile, but I'm glad to say that House Frey is no more. Not even the women or children.

    So, improving Winterfell came in handy -Roose was conspiring and I tried to imprison him, but he got away and decided to revolt. My improved forces proceeded to crush him, and I met him in single combat, ultimately leading to his death. Domeric was sent to be educated under Jorah, who's Glover wife is still alive.

    It's about this time that I start to improve relations with Dorne, and Doran surprisingly agrees to marry Arianne off to Jon Snow when Jon is of age.

    Robb had been born by now, and was now betrothed to Margaery Tyrell.

    Bran had also been born, about a year after Robb, and Catelyn was already pregnant again.

    And then tragedy struck. The daughter was born stillborn, and Ned has been depressed ever since.

    Not that kept him from the baby-making, because a couple months later, Catelyn was pregnant again with our third son, Rickard.

    I decided to check up on the rest of the realm and learned some lulzy things. Howland Reed had, at some point, become a follower of R'hllor and I've been trying to reconvert him ever since. Robert and Lyanna had yet to have a kid (This has since been fixed) and Robert was seen as a Tyrant. For lack of a better match, Tywin was left to marry off Cersei to his brother and her uncle, so I guess she still gets her incesty happy ending? (Surprisingly, her kids are bastards, but not Jaimes. they're some no name courtiers)

    Two years later, King Robert is known as the Black Stag.

    A year after that, Catelyn becomes known as The River Mule, which made me laugh.

    It's about this time that i sent Jon off to squire for Oberyn. A year after, Rob's kept at home. Bran get's sent to be educated by his aunt.

    Things are kind of quiet, besides the tourneys of which i've won twice, and a couple peasant revolts against Robert, for the next few years.

    Now, 9 years after, I check things again. I have to laugh -Arianne, at some point, got the Trait 'Chaste' of all things. Robert declares the colonization of Summerhall and that goes down.

    And finally, we come to this latest part. Catelyn has apparently been cheating on Ned.

    With Benjen.

    This sent me into a long bout of laughter for about 10 minutes, and I then i finally threw her in the Dungeon. I checked to make sure all my kids were actually mine, and they were, but I still had to chuckle.

    Not so high and mighty now, are you, you Tully bitch?
     
  19. halfwaydecent

    halfwaydecent Fourth Year

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    Yeah shit got a little weird in that game. I thought it was hilarious at the time though. This game was from an earlier version of the mod so I don't remember everything that happened in it, but at one point I'm pretty sure I made a pass at Myrcella too, just as a fuck you to Cersei, before Myrcella said no.

    Also the game was pretty buggy like after declaring war on the Iron Islands so they were no longer independent I became King of the Iron Isles. Then after my huge war with my wife, Dany, Westeros became known as the Kingdom of the Iron Islands. I found that funny enough that I didn't even bother to make the Iron Throne my primary title.
     
  20. Odran

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    Huh, I had Lyanna survive just once, but for some reason Robert was pronounced incapable, Tyrion was serving as his Regent, and Lyanna was roaming the countryside with some hedgeknights, from which I kidnapped her and proceeded to flay her. Mind you, I was playing as Domeric Bolton at the time, since Roose had died due to Ned's ineptitude during the assault on King's Landing, so I considered this a just repayment. And then I had an affair with Catelyn, making sure that all of her children were Domeric's. It took some time, but I made it happen.

    Do tell, how exactly do you send a Northernborn to be anyone's squire and how did Ned actually manage to compete in tourneys? Doesn't that require first and foremost that you're a knight? Or am I missing something here?
     
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