SO this is a thing I found...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C5-51PfwI3M&list=UUWB0dvorHvkQlgfGGJR2yxQ

And this would be the original story that kicked it all off...

http://thezoepost.wordpress.com/

So...ya, people seem think it's true, and if it is it paints a fairly disgusting picture.

 

Who the fuck are these people and why do you think anyone should care?

 

I dunno, but apparently it's got a lot of people mad, I'm wondering if anybody else knows more, or if it's real or fake or...

 

Not gonna lie. From the thread title, I just assumed this thread was about the burger joint and I was about to get sad.

 

Which is how I stumbled on it, apparently it's what people are calling it, I think. I just wanna know if there's any truth to it, or if someone is just bitching about bullshit.

 

Why not both?

I mean its not like journalism hasn't taken a massive decline into shit across all media formats in the past couple of years.

That said, his tone when it came to attitudes that people say are pervasive in gaming came across as overly hostile. If the allegations are true, then there is a certain level of corruption in gaming journalism. That corruption doesn't also change the fact that there is a certain level of sexism in gaming as well.

I suppose we'll see how much truth there is in these claims in the next couple of days. But even if it is true, this guy isn't directing vitriol against journalism institutions, so much as the over-arching ideology. Which doesn't really track for me, since he's not trying to expose corruption so much as further his own ideological viewpoint, and so he has his own agenda in making this video.

Ultimately, I'm not any more motivated to investigate these claims than I was before I watched his video. But then I'm generally a lazy bastard when it comes to these things.

 

Apparently a lot of people? It was drawing enough attention I was wondering if it was true, so my own curiosity is why I posted it.

 

I think the important thing about the story is the fact that basically all the major video game news sites are horridly corrupt and not that ho's be ho'ing, but we all probably knew that.

 

This is just another of a billion examples of why this whole "internet social justice" crowd is utterly amoral and hypocritical. They condemn the morality of others as an excuse to feel superior, but do not adhere to that morality themselves.

I don't give a shit about who sleeps with who. I don't give a shit if she sleeps around to benefit her career. Maybe it's not a nice thing to do, but in a day and age where networking is everything, I can understand how powerful a tool it can be.

The issue here is the other stuff, like that women-in-gaming project she attacked. For those of you unwilling to watch the video:

- there was a competition where women would submit ideas for video games. The five best would have concept art made for them and put online, then opened to a vote. The internet would pick a winner, which would be made into an actual game.

- Zoe Quinn came along and claimed it was 'oppressive' and making women work for free. These women were only submitting the initial idea, not making the game, and would be paid royalties for the idea. She publicly attacked the person behind the project, aimed her fanbase of social justice warriors at them, and arranged for a media blackout on the project.

This was a good idea. Just in general, and for women in gaming. It provided a way for women without the technical know-how to get their idea published, removing the barriers of money, experience, and exposure.

Quinn and her legion of social justice warriors attacked this because they felt like it. The 'justice' in social justice tells you everything. These people don't support women, or homosexuals, or the transgender. They just want an excuse to attack people and feel good about it.

Trolls have been around for as long as the internet, and we've all experienced some trolling, whether good-natured fun or outright malice. Social justice warriors act in the exact same way, but claim it's moral, righteous behaviour.

They're basically the Westboro Baptist Church of Tumblr.

 

Pushing aside the whole drama about her being a cheating slut, most people have a problem with it because she slept with the guy who was writing up stuff online, reviews I think, for her game, and her boss, which obviously influenced how the guy wrote it up in the first place.

I think I remember hearing about this beached whale a while back when she was stirring up a false-alarm shitstorm about WizardChan, how they harrased her for posting about her game on their site, which they later proved to be untrue, but by that point none of the SJWs gave a shit, since they ran out of steam and fucks to give. How convenient.

tl;dr fat slob fucked, behind her boyfriend's back, with people that had a certain degree of influence over how well her game, Depression Quest, was received by the online media.

 

From what I understand, this kind of racket is exactly what she yearns for. I mean, I certainly had never heard about "Depression Quest" and Zoe before.

 

After reading everything said in this thread, I can safely say, I still don't care.

 

So... a woman has cheated on a man, games journalists are acting unprofessionally, an indie developer has engineered a shitstorm on the internet to generate publicity for their new game and Tumblr's ridiculous Social Justice Warriors have gone to war over something completely trivial rather than actually put any effort into fighting a real social injustice.

None of these things have ever happened before and I am honestly shocked that they are happening now.

Also I'm being sarcastic.

 

She slept with 4 other indie developers (one of whom was her boss) and a writer for Rock Paper Shotgun. The RPS guy wrote an article promoting Steam Greenlight games including hers (and should probably get disciplined for it, if not fired outright.)

Her sleeping with other games writers was pure speculation on the point of the video maker.

Honestly all this bullshit really tells us is that A) Quinn and her ex are both awful people, and that B) that writer should probably get fired.

E: At least I think it was RPS. Either way, it definitely wasn't Kotaku.

 

Oh thank god I finally learned what SJW stands for.

At least something positive has come out of this mess.