1. DLP Flash Christmas Competition + Writing Marathon 2024!

    Competition topic: Magical New Year!

    Marathon goal? Crank out words!

    Check the marathon thread or competition thread for details.

    Dismiss Notice
  2. Hi there, Guest

    Only registered users can really experience what DLP has to offer. Many forums are only accessible if you have an account. Why don't you register?
    Dismiss Notice
  3. Introducing for your Perusing Pleasure

    New Thread Thursday
    +
    Shit Post Sunday

    READ ME
    Dismiss Notice

Naruto Manga Thread Part 2

Discussion in 'Books and Anime Discussion' started by Jon, Feb 12, 2014.

Not open for further replies.
  1. Darth Disaster

    Darth Disaster The Waking Sith ~ Prestige ~ DLP Supporter

    Joined:
    Sep 10, 2011
    Messages:
    234
    Location:
    Two blocks from the beach.
    High Score:
    2,249
    Maybe it's an unnamed ability he gets from the fox? Kitsune are famously shapeshifters.
     
  2. Vincent

    Vincent Death Eater

    Joined:
    Jan 28, 2011
    Messages:
    909
    Well Kakashi was inside of a jutsu at the time. It stands to reason that the chakra in the jutsu could have stopped Kakashi from seeing chakra outside the jutsu. It would be similar to the chakra in the hidden mist jutsu stopping the sharingan from finding the user, by their chakra, in the mist.
     
    Last edited: Aug 21, 2014
  3. Striker

    Striker What's up demons?

    Joined:
    Aug 7, 2010
    Messages:
    1,500
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    In the Tesla
    Ehhh, that's stretching things almost as severely as just saying that a henge temporarily alters one's chakra enough to fool the Sharingan/Rinnegan/etc, and is less supported by canon. Also, it's important to take into account that Naruto and Sasuke are both packing incredibly strong, incredibly vague powerups right now. We know that Sasuke can see pretty much everything as well as ultra-kawarimi (he's Trickster), and we know that Naruto can heal pretty much everything as well as fly.

    Aside from that? Buh.
     
  4. Vincent

    Vincent Death Eater

    Joined:
    Jan 28, 2011
    Messages:
    909
    I don't see Zabuza's jutsu as blocking the sharingan's ability to see chakra as too much of a stretch. The sharingan sees chakra as color. Being inside a jutsu would be like looking through tinted glass. The glass would compromise your ability to see other colors.
     
  5. Darth Disaster

    Darth Disaster The Waking Sith ~ Prestige ~ DLP Supporter

    Joined:
    Sep 10, 2011
    Messages:
    234
    Location:
    Two blocks from the beach.
    High Score:
    2,249
    Had an argument today with someone who HONESTLY thinks that every part of Naruto was pre-planned and outlined and foreshadowed. That nothing was made up on the spot to cover Kishi's ass when he wrote himself into the corner and that Naruto itself is a great story who most people don't appreciate cause they aren't 'paying enough attention.'

    But then, he's read the entire manga 15+ times, so I think perhaps he's just obsessed and trying to justify his obsession.

    Honestly, where do people get this shit?
     
  6. Aerylife

    Aerylife Not Equal

    Joined:
    Jan 28, 2011
    Messages:
    141
    Location:
    Everywhere
    High Score:
    1,828
    I think part 1 was planned out. Part 2 on the other hand... I think Kishi drank/blazed a bit too much while watching DBZ for part 2.
     
  7. Darth Disaster

    Darth Disaster The Waking Sith ~ Prestige ~ DLP Supporter

    Joined:
    Sep 10, 2011
    Messages:
    234
    Location:
    Two blocks from the beach.
    High Score:
    2,249
    Why are you saying things I agree with? Dammit luckylee, go back to trolling so I can shove you in a neat little box and forget about you.

    But yeah, Part 1 was obviously planned out. Part 2...not so much, no.
     
  8. fire

    fire Order Member

    Joined:
    Dec 25, 2011
    Messages:
    808
    Part 1 was very coherent. Most of Part 2 less so, but still planned well enough. I feel that things only went into complete horseshit territory when Kishi lost his sense of scale in the World War Arc.

    In some ways, the manga could have should have ended with Naruto's victory over Nagato. It would have made a million times the thematic sense. It wraps up the Akatsuki plotline, which was ultimately driving the manga. We finally see that Naruto has in him the potential to bring peace to the Ninja World.

    But of course that would be too neat for Kishi. RINNEBYAKUSHARINGAN AHOY
     
    Last edited: Aug 24, 2014
  9. Knyght

    Knyght Alchemist

    Joined:
    Nov 21, 2010
    Messages:
    2,349
    Location:
    England
    Not all that neat considering all the loose plot threads that would be left hanging around. I wouldn't have minded a Naruto vs Nagato finale but it'd have to be pushed back to deal with the other remnants of Akatsuki and Sasuke. And I'd still have liked a Fourth Shinobi War, just without all the Madara/Obito/Kaguya/Shinju* insanity.

    *Edit: And Zetsu. One (or two halves of one) was more than enough.
     
    Last edited: Aug 24, 2014
  10. Probellum

    Probellum Death Eater

    Joined:
    Jan 17, 2011
    Messages:
    965
    Location:
    Among the Moose
    Except ending it there still left some loose ends.

    I agree that toppling Nagato should have ended things, but if you just cut things off there, it still doesn't do much good.

    The way Part 2 should have gone was like this:

    Naruto returns.
    Gaara Retrieval Arc.
    4 Tailed Naruto vs Orochimaru
    Sasuke thwarts Orochimaru
    Fight with Kakuzu & hidan
    Sasuke fights Itachi, Orochimaru escapes
    Sasuke learns of the Coup, and Danzo's machinations.
    Danzo tries to take over Konoha, fails.
    Danzo and Oro team up.
    Kabuto does his thing and backstabs everybody, joins up with Akatsuki
    Konoha regroups, decides it's high time they got fucking rid of Orochimaru and Danzo.
    Battle Royale between Konoha, Team OroDanzo, and Team Hawk, with maybe a couple of the remaining Akatsuki members joining in.
    Naruto and Sasuke duke it out - Naruto wins, drags Sasuke back home.
    At the same time, mirroring that fight, Jiraiya & Oro fight eachother.
    Akatsuki moves on Killer Bee, he wrecks their shit and sends em packing
    Akasuki realizes they need to step up and start planning - and hey, one of their members has had past success hypnotizing the leader of one the five major hidden villages. They take over Kiri, absorb the remnants of Team OroDanzo and start recruiting some of the smaller villages.
    Jiraiya investigates that shit, fights Pein, dies.
    Naruto, if he hasn't already, learns Sage Mode.
    The other villages are kind of alarmed at the power being amassed by Akatsuki, and in an unlikely turn of events, team up. Except, not really, because they're all eyeing eachother for weaknesses and are just as likely to take out their 'allies' as they are Akatsuki.
    4th Shinobi World War - no ridiculous power creep
    Final battle, Gai vs Kisame, Sasuke vs Kabuto-on-roids, Sakura vs Konan (Because hey, she's not useless here!) Killer Bee vs Mei (who is working for Akatsuki because they've taken of kiri) Tenzo or Tsunade vs Zetsu, Naruto vs Pein.

    Oh, and Tobi is still Obito, who's just plain fucking crazy and joined up with Akatsuki because he kind of believes in the Peace thing, but ultimately is just angry at the world and Kakashi and Konoha in particular. How he lived will probably still be bullshit, but it won't be fucking madara hax brainwash shenanigans.

    ^because in my mind, that sounds epic as fuck. Maybe I'll even write this out one day as an alternative 'part 2.'
     
    Last edited: Aug 24, 2014
  11. Knyght

    Knyght Alchemist

    Joined:
    Nov 21, 2010
    Messages:
    2,349
    Location:
    England
    For a while now, I've thought it'd have been pretty cool if they'd done that with the Land of Iron. At the Kage Summit, the Gokage realise they've just walked into the greatest trap in history as the entire samurai legion turns against them. Then you've got a war against Akatsuki, the samurai and all the minor villages (chiefly, the fanatical Amegakure) that have spent the last century being shat on by the Five Great Shinobi Countires.
     
  12. Jarsha

    Jarsha Seventh Year

    Joined:
    Jul 26, 2011
    Messages:
    237
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    My deluxe cubicle
    I believe you just came up with a wonderful idea for a Naruto fic with which you will be able to ease the pain of
    WINDCHAKURAS passing.

    Write it. Write it like Jiraiya is guiding you from the next great adventure, like your life depends on it, write this like you alone would be rewarded with a decade free from government taxation.

    You have my trust, and whatever feeble prowess of language that I may be able to muster at your disposal.​
    Do not fail me sempai.
     
    Last edited: Aug 27, 2014
  13. Knyght

    Knyght Alchemist

    Joined:
    Nov 21, 2010
    Messages:
    2,349
    Location:
    England
    Jump's delayed. Might not see Naruto/Bleach/One Piece until Friday or as late as next Monday.
     
  14. Knyght

    Knyght Alchemist

    Joined:
    Nov 21, 2010
    Messages:
    2,349
    Location:
    England
  15. Tasoli

    Tasoli Minister of Magic

    Joined:
    Dec 22, 2008
    Messages:
    1,242
    Location:
    Behind the keyboard
    Is it me or was this chapter unsatisfieing? I mean what kind of end is this?
     
  16. Celestin

    Celestin Dimensional Trunk

    Joined:
    Aug 21, 2008
    Messages:
    4,707
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Poland
    'Meh' kind?
     
  17. Knyght

    Knyght Alchemist

    Joined:
    Nov 21, 2010
    Messages:
    2,349
    Location:
    England
    Quite meh. Like Kaguya herself.
     
  18. Hero of Stupidity

    Hero of Stupidity Villain of Sensibility ~ Prestige ~ DLP Supporter

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2010
    Messages:
    342
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Hungary
    High Score:
    3,172
    Now what?


    I'm confused
     
  19. Pasta Sentient

    Pasta Sentient Disappeared

    Joined:
    Nov 28, 2010
    Messages:
    788
    Location:
    Earth
    The Manga's over. We can go about our normal lives again without having to rage every week at stupid writing.....

    Not really. We've got another year of epilogue to worry about I imagine.
     
  20. Mugglewizard

    Mugglewizard Seventh Year

    Joined:
    Feb 26, 2012
    Messages:
    227
    ????

    That is what I was left with.
     
Loading...
Not open for further replies.