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Witch Hunts - why did they happen as they did in Harry Potter?

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Starfox5, Aug 27, 2014.

  1. A.K.$J6-J5

    A.K.$J6-J5 Seventh Year

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    Ignoring the fact that you only need fire and a green poweder for floo, you are saying that wizards were less dangerous, they went to Hogwarts and all learnt spells like flame freezing, stupefy,petrific totalus, or even a wingardium leviosa,
    They were all prepared to survive, a knight in full armour and a sword and shield? Petrific totalus or wingardium leviosa
     
  2. Koalas

    Koalas First Year ~ Prestige ~ DLP Supporter

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    A fireplace needs to be connected to the floo network to floo, so no it's not that simple. You're also completely underestimating the intimidation factor of a knight in full armor charging you down with a sword.
     
  3. Invictus

    Invictus Master of Death

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    Currently waiting for syed to show up and make the team complete on this thread.
     
  4. A.K.$J6-J5

    A.K.$J6-J5 Seventh Year

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    A wingardium leviosa, and the knights flying or Inpedimentia he's frozen and you just walk on past
    Or slice him up with the severing charm
     
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    Aekiel Angle of Mispeling ~ Prestige ~ DLP Supporter

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    Wizards are OP. That's why they treated witch hunts like amusing side shows rather than as a threat to life.
     
  6. Knoq

    Knoq Temporarily Banhammered

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    You are forgetting sheer numbers of a lynch mob. It's the Magical ability to dictate terms of battle that makes them so outrageously dangerous, not simply their raw power. And since spells seem to be single target focused most of the time, using AoE/multiple target spells might be more obscure.

    So the average and below average magical, especially those who didn't focus too much on learning dueling and combat and instead use their wand almost exclusively as a tool, such as Healers and Potioneers, might not be particularly well equipped to fend off mobs.

    Which is the real and present danger. Massed lynch mobs.

    And again, Wizarding combat is referred to as Dueling, which implies an expectation of single on single combat, and so you don't see much in the books or even fanfiction about dealing mass area damage and quickly slaughtering hordes of people. There is Confringo yes, but again, not every magical is or would be particularly oriented towards whooping ass.
     
  7. esran

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    Except an adult wizard could probably pull off a hex every few seconds. A weak hex maybe, but certainly enough to take out a muggle. And while mobs exist, nobody wnats to run into a meatgrinder.
     
  8. Knoq

    Knoq Temporarily Banhammered

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    You forget arrows, thrown spears, etc etc. The point is, is that before the popularization of Apparition, Portkeys and the Floo, Wizards were either extremely isolated from each other or easily rounded up anyways. There is also the betrayal aspect in general.

    With Apparition, Wizards and Witches can just run away. With spells like Confringo they could have fought their way through the occasional mob, but Apparition is still what made Wizards and Witches nearly impossible to pin down. They just have to grab their wand and think.
     
  9. A.K.$J6-J5

    A.K.$J6-J5 Seventh Year

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    Floor was probably available and a mob seriously?
    Unless the wizard is unlucky like nearly headless nick the wizard or witch is gonna survive with a flame freezing charm like wendilin the weird
    If a mob attacked a wizards house he would reinforce the doors and shoot stupefys and petrific totulus out the window every second with silent casting
     
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    MonkeyEpoxy The Cursed Child DLP Supporter

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    Given what we know about the average, adult, modern wizard, I think you're overestimating them. Go back before, presumably, a lot of the modern spells have been invented, and yeah.
     
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  11. A.K.$J6-J5

    A.K.$J6-J5 Seventh Year

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    You mean after 2 wars where the competent, skilled, powerful wizards died? And I'm sure some spells have been around for a long time, maybe more specialized spells like obliviate, or the finer points of magical theory
    The spells I said were all learnt in the first few year's of Hogwarts
     
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    Please, please, start typing with something akin to proper English, please. This isn't fucking facebook, and it's goddamn irritating to read your posts everywhere when none of them have punctuation, spelling, capitalization, etc.

    Edit: Note, this isn't just about this one post. It's in all the threads you're in.
     
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  13. A.K.$J6-J5

    A.K.$J6-J5 Seventh Year

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    It's much harder to type on a phone where auto-correct fucks shit up
     
  14. Knoq

    Knoq Temporarily Banhammered

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    You mean floo and possibly not?
    Concession fucking accepted.
    Need a wand for that. Hell, Wendlin would have been fucked had they decided on beating the shit out of her, stripping her, then giving her rags and hanging her
    It's like you don't even read your own post. :facepalm

    Like Imperius, the most devastating, which was invented in the 18th century according the Wiki.
    1. Most of the competent and skilled wizards survived, its mostly everyone else who did the dying. Like in every war ever.
     
  15. A.K.$J6-J5

    A.K.$J6-J5 Seventh Year

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    The witch, wendillin would only have to point her wand at herself and think flame freezing charm incantation
     
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    Peter Pettigrew killed 12 muggles with a single spell. If Pettigrew is capable of doing that then an actually competent wizard would be a one man army. I have no doubt that Harry could face off against any size of angry mob and win.
     
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    esran Professor

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    Pettigrew is a competent wizard. He isn't a great wizard, but he is certainly competent. I wouldn't be surprised if he was above average.
     
  18. A.K.$J6-J5

    A.K.$J6-J5 Seventh Year

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    What canon proof do you have to call a man who lived as a rat for 12 year competent?
     
  19. esran

    esran Professor

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    Basically the same proof people use to call James Potter competent.
    Managed the animagus form. Helped out with various complex spellwork such as the marauders map.
    But also he is shown to be able to consistently excape from sticky situations (unless his own hand is trying to strangle him) and is able to cast powerful spells.
    what canon proof do you have to call a man who lived as a rat for 12 years incompetent?
     
  20. A.K.$J6-J5

    A.K.$J6-J5 Seventh Year

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    He probably had more help from the others and I believe that in canon PoA Sirius say pettigrew took the longest to master the transformation
     
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