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CYS: Aria of Torment

Discussion in 'Little Italy' started by Lexicat, Sep 12, 2014.

  1. blab

    blab Second Year

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    No, it's not.
    Titus claimes Mathblade fans the flames of Citrus!scum with her vote/read whatever, which is objectively wrong, since Mathblade neither voted for Citrus nor read him as scum. She also repeats this assertion even after being called out on it.

    The only thing Mathblade maybe fans is Aekiel!scum, even though her "read" is not a scumread but a "Don't-vote-me"-read.

    But let's assume she does believe Mathblade fans Citrus!scum because she misread or whatever. It still doesn't make sense. Aekiel and Citrus are the two highest wagons. How could she possibly prevent a townblock by "suspecting" heavily suspected players? She can't.

    (btw, suspecting someone of preventing a townblock implies a reasonable sureness of the players in hypothetical townblock being town, which implies being actually rather far ahead in PoE, which is not supported by her other posts)

    Titus is doing exactly this. She throws around reads that are supported by bullshit. Plays obstinate when she is called out on it.
    And "likes" posts in an attempt to both influence/buddy and distract from the topic at hand.


    tl:dr Titus is full of shit.
     
  2. Titus

    Titus Squib

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    Lol. Nope. My reads are not supported by bullshit. Why don't you just vote me with that pile of bullshit you are spewing Blab. A perfectly timed post can fuel a dead discussion. My memory does have Mathblade voting for Citrus.

    You sure are spending a lot of time defending a survivor.

    Also I am not at PoE. I am townreading Citrus and Fonti. I would like it if my townreads stopped fighting each other.

    Here's where I am at

    Town
    Titus
    Aekiel
    Atum
    Citrus
    Rubicon

    Null
    lyrium

    Null lean scum
    Blab
    Von

    Scum
    Von
    Math


    Third Party
    No one although Math could be sk

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    Lyrium, Atum was testing the assertion of you being conftown and applying pressure with a vote. Pretty clear.

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    Liking posts is not buddying.

    You bet I try to influence who is lynched as either alignment.

    Pretty sure Aekiel and Citrus are town.
     
  3. Vaimes

    Vaimes Fifth Year

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    Titus, MathBlade never voted for Citrus. That's not negotiable. I don't recall her interactions with him, but there was no vote.

    Also your list is missing almost half the players and I'm on it twice. Why do you have a null category if you aren't going to use it.
     
  4. Titus

    Titus Squib

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    I distinctly remember Math voting for Citrus but given two players being equally sure it did not, I will be open to being wrong.


    Lyrium is Null and you are stuck between scum and lean scum. Blab and Lyriym are in a hurry to go down and be Math's partners. Lyrium's reaction to Atum's vote was bad.

    As for the blanks, do not have solid reads yet. It was to show not at PoE.
     
  5. Citrus

    Citrus First Year

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    Ooh a wagon!

    Brain dead right now but I'll be back later ^^
     
  6. MathBlade

    MathBlade First Year

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    Okay everyone I had my not awesome list which Titus just out herself on but here are my scum/town reads so far. Anyone omitted from this list is either null or I forgot but feel free to poke.

    Likely Scum
    Titus
    Aekiel
    Citrus OR Fonti
    Rubicon
    Zenzao

    Likely Town
    Fonti OR Citrus
    Kalas -- as much as they are growing on my not awesome list they are Scumhunting.
    Lyrium
    Sloth
    Terraine
    Atum
    Gigglypuff (Snowvon)

    Null
    POD

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    Sis I never voted for fruit. :( Search for the post. Making up clear bullshit and sticking to it is why you are on my scum list. Plus you seem to be off in left field on your reads instead of having coherent ones. As town you generally tunnel me better than this :( see MafiaScum for good example.
     
  7. Citrus

    Citrus First Year

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    Uhh Mathblade define putting people in both lists, because that looks kinda made up when you do that

    FYI all Fontisian is town
     
  8. MathBlade

    MathBlade First Year

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    Oh I left off Blab -- likely town :)

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    It is an either or Citrus.

    If you pick Fonti for the top list then Citrus in the bottom and vice versa.
     
  9. Titus

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    Lol. I tunnel better. Rotfl. Tunneling is bad for town. No one wants to lynch the "survivor" so I will find your buddues.

    You also have 5 scum wtf. Oh and almost all your scumreads are my townreads. Just no.

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    Who are your scumreads? Let us get a wagon on scum.

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    And if both Citrus and Fonti are town you are helping scum. Basically if you are survivor you are just keeping drama going for drama's sake.
     
  10. Citrus

    Citrus First Year

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    @Mathblade

    Just because two players tunnel each other doesn't mean they have to be different alignments

    @Titus

    Not particularly sure yet, I've been trying to town!clear players moreso than scumhunt thus far

    Why do you think Aekiel is town?
     
  11. MathBlade

    MathBlade First Year

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    Obviously not all of them are scum. That is why likely scum. One or two of them are likely town.

    I still think Aekiel is the most likely scum and the way Titus is fishing for a suspect with Citrus makes me think I am right.

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    I know this. I suspected you and Eido of having a town fight in a prior game and you were scum. :/ So with two strong players going as it my suspicion goes up.
     
  12. Citrus

    Citrus First Year

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    I'm not going to do that same thing every game, that's just dumb. Especially not to Font as she knows me, Eid didn't know me that game and I'd played an IRC game with him before where I'd done it as town

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    Please, my scum game is better than that. Don't insult me
     
  13. Titus

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    Lol. Fishing for a suspect right after I posted reads Sis.

    And you are basically suspecting two players bc they are strong and scumread each other. That sounds a lot like Kai and Fobti from Witchhunt. I played that like a fiddle but it is easier to spot if you know what you are looking for.

    ======

    Citrus, his reaction to his wagon was more scumhunting. He has a confidence about him I like a lot. He may be right or wrong but I like players willing to stand for things.

    Most of the reads I have are tiwn as well. Let's see who we agree on.
     
  14. fontisian

    fontisian Slug Club Member

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    Citrus: Why don't you share the rest of your reads with the class?
     
  15. MathBlade

    MathBlade First Year

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    @Titus: Omg look at that wording -- "Let's see who we agree on."
    This isn't standing for what you believe this is lynch shopping. Between that and lying about the Citrus vote yeah you are scum.

    Also that is not the only reason I suspect it is town v scum but I am working on this thing called shorter non rambly posts. :)

    @Citrus: Why no cross vote of Aekiel? Seems rather fishy to me.

    Titus/Aekiel/Citrus block?
     
  16. Citrus

    Citrus First Year

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    Hmm, I'll need to go reread Aekiel. I just remember his opening post being weak (hence a wagon forming on him)

    Feeling town on Fontisian (genuine reactions to pressure), Zenzao (the replace/not replace thing biases me a bit but I perceived that more as town-frustration then scum going fuck-I'm-done).

    I'm leaning slightly town on Lyrium, but what I expect for her scumtells come out more once she's been posting a lot. Her fear of other players + new player protection feels town, though recently most of her town games she's had this righteous PoV that's not present which is clouding her a bit for me.

    I'm leaning scum on Sloth, but it's probably because he's strongly emualting his other scum game (bursty posting) which is biased since 2/3 of the possible time he could post he's been VLA.

    That's pretty much as far as I've gotten

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    You damn ninja you
     
  17. fontisian

    fontisian Slug Club Member

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    How exactly did my reactions go from "OMGUS" to "genuine reactions to pressure"?
     
  18. Citrus

    Citrus First Year

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    I believe your 3rd wall-post
     
  19. Doctor Whooves

    Doctor Whooves High Inquisitor

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    Citrus, are you claiming what you did was pressure? Because that was either a very sudden (and very scummy) flip in attitude, or you were playing some sort of insane gambit to confirm Fonti's townyness to yourself.

    What I saw was Fonti putting an awful lot of pressure on you, not the other way round.
     
  20. Citrus

    Citrus First Year

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    I consider it pretty important to not let a scum!Fontisian slip by. Also poking people helps sieve out genuinity from faked as such.

    I was waiting for the point where I could discern actual irritation/anger/frustration and I found it. Scum!fontisian would have pushed that more artificially.

    That post is a dear work in fence-sitting. What are your thoughts on that exchange? If you think I'm scum why not vote me? If you think I'm town why word it with such bias?

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    Actually there's hard hammers this game never mind. But feel free to answer the question.

    Everyone else, feel free to actually post something. I see you lurking there