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The Five Guys Shit Storm...

Discussion in 'Gaming and PC Discussion' started by Cruentus, Aug 19, 2014.

  1. Ched

    Ched Da Trek Moderator DLP Supporter ⭐⭐

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    I clearly don't 'get' this whole thing to the point that others do, mostly b/c I don't frequent those other sites or know any of the names being thrown around. I also haven't been a 'serious' gamer for a long time, probably 10 years or so, though I still enjoy and purchase games.

    But I don't know why DLP would give enough of a fuck to not let a thread like this exist so long as everyone posting isn't being a complete asshat (i.e. see the politics section where threads get shut down sometimes).

    Though as I said, I might be missing some of the grander aspects of things. I still haven't run into anyone anywhere talking about this except via this thread, so I don't frequent the right places.

    From my perspective, however, I can't see why your average person who isn't involved in this feels the need to take a side. Coming into it blind it seems like all the major players on all sides are assholes of some form or another. Though I don't think I have all the facts.

    Is there some kind of gender disparity issue in the gaming industry? Sure there is. But that doesn't seem to be what this shitstorm is actually about, even if some folks want to pretend it is. Isn't this shitstorm more about people just being shitheads?
     
  2. Solomon

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    Eh, this shitstorm wasn't really about pretending to care about gender issues so much as it was pretending to care about journalistic integrity. You're right about it being entirely about shitheads (on both ends) being annoying, though.
     
  3. Red Aviary

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    Yeah, I'm sure it's generating a lot of discussion, but of course that doesn't make it real. I don't think it's that hard to fake a Skype log.

    Moot did go to that convention thing with Sarkeesian and Gamergate threads are being shut down. Whether the log's real or not I've lost a lot of respect for him. If it is I'm certainly done with 4chan.

    Speaking of InternetAristocrat, I hadn't noticed that he put up another video a few days ago.

    Trying to downplay the issue? SJW-leaning post history? Seems DLP isn't immune from shilling either.
     
  4. Solomon

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    Note how I didn't claim it was just gamers being shitty. Because I said "on both sides." As in: people on the other end are being profoundly shitty, too. Chill out.
     
  5. Photon

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    It is hilarious like some people see it as a truly important event.
     
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    Andrela Plot Bunny DLP Supporter

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    It might not be inherently important, but if people make it important, it will be.


    Also, @Red Aviary. Come to 8chan. Seriously. Webm's with sound, red texting, lots of nice features and a pretty laid-back admin.
     
  7. Gengar

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    The only thing i care about in this whole 'fiasco' is the censorship and lack of reporting on issues that would otherwise be reported on.
     
  8. Tehan

    Tehan Avatar of Khorne DLP Supporter

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    If the pastebin is true it's pretty fuckin' disgusting, but, y'know...

    I really, really hesitate to buy into something that depicts moot and co as such blatant and moustache-twirlingly evil SJWs.
     
  9. Invictus

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    That is exactly the same kind of thing that the SJW vlaim that happen to them. And like with them, I look it with distrust. Quite a bit of it.
     
  10. Knoq

    Knoq Temporarily Banhammered

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    So are there actually people on Zoe/Anita/etc's side in this besides people who wouldn't kiss their ass and never question what spews out of their mouth anyways?
     
  11. Tehan

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    Quite a few. There's a lot of pre-made natural allies out there for the anti-gamergate folks, because let's face it, horribly sexist nerds have been churning out enemies for literally decades, and most people get their news through the same media that's in the crosshairs of the gamergate fiasco. 'Nerds angry at woman in the video game industry for being sexually active' is, unfortunately, a very plausible narrative.

    In a battle where one side is the unholy alliance between journalists and professional SJWs, it's going to be very, very difficult for the silent majority to get any sort of favorable impression of the opposition.
     
  12. Cruentus

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  13. Knoq

    Knoq Temporarily Banhammered

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    So I was right
    onwards with minsinterpretive stereotypes
    The internet, were it should be clear and has been proven that Anita is a fraudster, and full of shit besides?
    Wow, you don't even know what the nerds are pissed about. Like, sexually active women havent been on the RADAR in....damn, 40 fucking years. Not even most Evangelist focus on them that much. No, the real reason is two things.

    1. Blatant corruption-Zoe has apparently tried to fuck her way to good reviews and getting sites on hers ide for no good reason.

    2. Mass Censorship-This is the main thing which has stoked the fire, Zoe, Anita, and a few others convinced certain sites to engage massive, almost unprecedented censorship of anything vaguely critical of Zoe Quinn, Anita, and all the bullshit SJWs represent

    The fact that Zoe cheated on someone has ceased to be relevant, or in fact mentioned much at all, for quite some time.
    Which is half the problem. The entire problem is the bolded.
     
  14. Gengar

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    Eh, I wouldn't say it's irrelevant. I tend to look unfavorably on adulterers.

    And that's probably the biggest understatement I've ever made.

    I feel like if it was a man that had done it, no one would give two shits and calling him a horrible person - which is fine.

    Double standards leaning the other way isn't equality.
     
  15. Tehan

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    Jeezy fucking Creezy you are ten pounds of mad in a five-pound sack, aintcha? This ain't a fucking fairytale where one side is all the forces of good and righteousness and the other is the legions of bastard offspring of Hitler and the Devil. There are good people who happen to be anti-gamergate because they've been misinformed, and they easily accepted the misinformation because a lot of it rings true. There are terrible people who are pro-gamergate for all the wrong reasons - I guarantee you that if you look around our allies, you'll see Redpill twits, horrific neocons (go read Nero's non-gamergate stuff, I fucking dare you), legitimately terrifying incel lunatics, and asshole shit-stirrers sending literal death threats. Welcome to the real fucking world, where sometimes terrible people believe some of the same things that you do. Hitler liked dogs, do you like dogs?

    We are on the same fucking side here. I'm pro-gamergate. I just realize that a big part of the reason the SJWs wriggled their way into power is they had a point, albeit one they blew out of all proportion. There are terrible people in the gaming community. By pretending that they only exist in the fevered imaginations of SJWs you're proving their point for them, since it's so easy to prove that sexism is out there just by getting a girl to speak into the microphone in a multiplayer online shooter and seeing what response you get.

    Unless you really intend to prove that there's no such thing as anti-female sexism on the internet - and I really hope you do because seriously, blowing that argument out of the water would be so far beyond fish in a barrel it'd go right past 'not even funny any more' and right back into hilarity - or accept that there's a reason this is a fight that's still going on more than a month after the original Zoe Post.
     
  16. Xiph0

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    The most ridiculous argument you could've made. Go speak into a mic in CS:GO and I guarantee you'll be called a niggerfagjew and told to shut the fuck up in no time flat. I really like my new headset.
     
  17. Gengar

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    Oops, you committed an internet faux pas, lol
     
  18. Ched

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    Every time I speak over vent/teamspeak/mumble during online gameplay with people who don't know me I am assumed to be a prepubescent boy.

    Every. fucking. time.
     
  19. Gengar

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    Lower your pitch in the client's settings, lol
     
  20. Otters

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    Well if you stopped bragging about fucking the other guy's mother...
     
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