Thanks for excising all the context to make it sound absurd. Yeah it sounds pretty absurd when you word it that way.

Why don't you recall shit like, idk, the fact that my win condition is so hard I decided to just roll as I felt and I first felt like calling out anyone with extra votes? Because that's an obvious provable role and it's also infinitely better than a win condition tied directly to a role that's basically impossible

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Throwing quotes like they are machine gun bullets doesn't mean anything if you're actually shooting blanks.

You keep deflecting Titus's point about anything beyond tone. This has also gone extremely into a Lyrium + Fontisian vs. Titus (+ Citrus I guess you could say), and I know Titus and I aren't aligned (unless she's third party but then that doesn't really count as aligned because individuals anyways)

 

Titus dear, I have a long list of quotes against. If you think one of them is sorted wrong, why don't you attempt to challenge me on it, hmm?

Or you can just wait for Citrus to chainsaw his way to your defense.

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"My words mean nothing because I can't actually attack the quotes themselves."

 

Citrus, you already made it clear that you are in it for your own survival not town, so to me your existence is pointless.

And you and Titus really need to stop the bs. There's one thing of being clever scum\buddies but all I see is a desperation between the two of you to see any lynch other than each other.

Suddenly, you focus on Blab and a random question about his lack of posts. Do you have any questions for him or for anyone about him? Anything at all? Are you capable of scum hunting?

I'm also interested to see where Titus became fidgety and decided to try to lynch me in this thread...was it when Citrus was close to being hammered? Will try to track the scumminess tomorrow.

 

Yes, it was.

 

@Fonti, I already TLDRed your wall. You are trying to outspam and ignore questions. Anyone can see that.

I was proven right that Math did not pick Town. I know my sister that well.

So answer the questions.

Have you ever buddied Math by your own standards?

Why is Lyrium town besides tone?

 

Titus,

how about you do this since innocent until proven guilty. You've played some games with me...what about my meta makes me different in this game. Or pick apart my posts and tell me where the mindset is scummy.

Don't do bs like "Lyrium is hypersensitive." I've always been an emotional player so don't use that shit with me. Use logic and analysis, that's your thing.

 

We should lynch in: [Lyrium, Titus, fontisian]. Titus and Lyrium are probably unaligned and fontisian!scum just always seems possible to me. But 1:2 odds of hitting scum D1 sounds good to me. They also all have varying degrees of interaction with just about every other player, relatively higher than most others.

Are you all the way caught up Lucky?

 

Titus: Let me get this straight. You are ignoring the accumulated evidence against you because it is too overwhelming and you can't argue with it? Excellent. If you just roll over and die now then.

1. Is this game, no. In other games, I don't remember. Certainly not on the scale you have.

2. What part of "It doesn't matter" can't get through your skull? Lyrium is town.

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Guys, Titus just scumclaimed. This debate is over. Lynch her.

 

Atum, what are you reads on the three ladies involved in a catfight right now?

My own thoughts:

Fonti is a real resource for town. If she is town then scum will NK her N1 or N2. If they don't that's when Fonti becomes a viable tunnel or lynch target. Plus..why haven't you looked at her arguments and decided if it makes sense or not?

Titus as scum or 3rd party sk is a real threat to town because she somehow makes it to near end game or to end game itself. She also hasn't done anything useful so far other then hard core defend a claimed neutral and buddy people.


Also, Atum..do try to make a case of some sort...because otherwise it seems a bit fenciness.

 

I have started with innocent until proven guilty. However, I will reset if you agree to do the same.

My read is not a meta read. If you are town, you seriously need thicker voting skin.

Second, you should really take a look at Fonti. If you are town, she is really far up your ass. Why aren't you concerned that Fonti is dodging explaining why you are town? Most town players would be concerned there.

 

Oh hey look, another lie.

I have explained why Lyrium is town, Titus. You then asked me to dismiss my reasoning for her towniness and give new reasons. I declined because that's fucking stupid.

But please, make your hole deeper.

 

Semi-Official Vote Count 9

[6] Titus ~ Blab, MathBlade, Lyrium, Snowvon, fontisian, Zenzao
[5] Lyrium ~ Atum, Rubicon, Titus, Citrus, Luckylee
[2] Aekiel ~ TerRaine, Sloth
[2] Citrus ~ Aekiel, Doctor Whooves

[1] Not Voting ~ Kalas

With 16 alive, it's 9 to lynch!

Day 1 will end September 26th, 10 PM EST.

 

Fontisian when is the last time you used yhe standard deviation analysis to quantify lurking? That was so transparently buddying Mathblade.

You see, most town players can articulate WHY someone is town. The fact you won't is making me paranoid that you are pitting me against a town lyrium who plays like scum.

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Tone is not a fucking reason, especially without examples. Tone is just a buzzword.

You cannot call me a liar for wanting a reason Fonti

 

How was that buddying Mathblade? I did that because I was in the middle of a labreport that required it, and I wanted a distraction.

I did articulate why Lyrium is town. You know I did, because your request was for me to ignore that reasoning and explain in a different way. Transparent lies are transparent.

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Oh bullshit, how sweet thou smell.

 

That's just a fancy way of saying Tone Fonti. Lot of words but no reasons. You aren't showing Lyrium scumhunting.

Cmon. You expect us to believe you haven't needed a distraction before and done that. No you stated that to buddy MB.

 

Titus. No, why should I do a hard reset when your play hasn't changed in any way? Why are you hard core defending an alleged 3rd party neutral from lynch (Citrus) while stating that two other alleged 3rd party neutrals should die. Why are you town clearing people who don't even have a readwall\solid stances yet?

As for Fontisian. Everyone who has played numerous games with us either here or IRC knows that the first thing Fonti does most often is sort my alignment. She can tell and she uses it whether as town or scum. I am worried about her but so far she hasn't done the few things I notice scum Fonti does. Also, she did explain beyond tone..it was attitude and aggressive level but you seemed to have missed that part. (oh and ninja'ed by fonti so cool).

And please...everyone knows Fonti is boss at this game so trying to doubtcast her based on her read of me (like what am I know for in games? Sheeping? Being fluffy? What else?) Not much so that in itself tells me something about the interactions between her and you.

It would be one thing if she went after someone else who was more legit good at this game and seemed to be trying to get rid of competition but Fonti knows I don't trust her until her flip and she has nothing to gain by defending me. If she was scum I would be lynched by now and she would let it go. She's firm in her stance that I'm not and that means to me that she's not misusing her ReadLyrium like a book skills.

You on the other hand...just no.

Anything else?

 

I did raise some objections to Titus behavior several pages back - which were all promptly ignored/glazed over by her and everyone else. That, coupled with the Fonti/Titus back-and-forth, cinched the matter and I didn't think it merited explanation beyond what I'd described just above my vote in that post.

Also,

Mhm, watch your gaze yo. Yellow Eyes all up in this thread now. We really should have taken that dissolution challenge LL.

FTFY. Did we ever get the QT's for that thread spread out after it ended? And you can paste some fur over our scales, but you can't take 'em away, Lyr. I'm afraid we'll always be at arms-length.

I was theorizing that Sloth's absence could have been a lie and that he was in fact lurking hard. I have reason to believe that TerRaine was lurking mid-way through her supposed absence with Sloth. Wouldn't that kind of behavior be suspicious then?

As for my abrupt jump on his faux-slip and my hesitation afterward, I realized I was making the same stupid mistakes as before in being too eager to read scumclues where they weren't there and it quenched my attitude rather firmly. I'll admit I still feel some guilt over that particular mishap and I mostly swore Mafia games off after it was over, so it is still entrenched in my mind that I got town!Sloth killed and myself NK'd by the scum all in D1/N1. Embarrassment is a hard teacher.

Your google-fu is lacking, sith lord.

 

No, it's a way of saying tone, while pointing out the specific hallmark of town!Lyrium town to be dissected by anyone who dares to argues with it (hint: no one can).

You couldn't fight the tone argument, so you dismissed it as having no support. Then when I showed the support (which you didn't remember from earlier because you aren't actually scumhunting), you dismissed tone arguments as a whole as completely invalid just "because." You have no ground to stand on.

Wow, you're actually trying to make an argument about this. I'm a physics major, Titus. I do analysis of games for fun all of the time. There's a reason the massive update of the win ratio for games happened when I was bored one day. I just brought this one up because you were arguing a point that was objectively untrue.

 

Lyrium, your play hasn't changed from hyperdefensiveness I have seen from scum. I was attempting to meet you half way. You are not entitled to get me to consider you as town when you haven't scumhunted but merely Titus hunted.

I also have come around to letting Math live. I even wanted to hire her but I have no item.

Von's claim is fake bc his claimed ability does not help him.

I don't care who hunts who first. I care about reasons. If she hunted you first she could show a town trajectory on you that I have missed. Attitude and aggression are subsets of tone.

I am the boss of late game as town but lately my town game has been red hot.

Any goid scum knows you swing at easy mislynches. What did Fonti do? Buddy you and math. Go for third party lynch.

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I can fight the tone argument because you have yet to show analysis beyond aggressive and other adjectives.

Show me a trajectory on blab, or any other player that isn't related to how much they agree with her.

 

This is stupid. Titus is full of shit and can't respond to my arguments. We're lynching her. End of story.

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If anyone besides Citrus somehow thinks Titus has made a valid point, point it out for me and I'll shred it tomorrow. Night.