Ignoring Math is my backup if Lyrium cannot be convinced to explode on Math thus netting us two antitown dead.

What could scum do? Kill me, then we know I am right on everything as Blab is the more powerful being the masonizer. Killing Blab confirms me. Killing Math confirms her as full of shit and third party.

Meanwhile we lynch Sloth and get a scumflip.

 

Feel better dude. I'd like to see your thoughts.

@LuckyLee -- You can't make it work because I'm 3P.

 

Considering your usual play style when dealing with ika, I'd like you to help me understand what made you write the bolded. Since when are we hunting anti town?

 

By antitown there i meant nontown role pms. Yeah i do get the vagueness. #drunkTitus

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Atum, to be clear, I am done hunting. I know who is town and who isn't.

 

Only scum quits hunting. I have info from the mods that I'm reasonably certain is accurate based on the play but I have to still hunt to find out if it's bastard. I'm still hunting and I'm 3P.

The ego is strong with this one.

 

Ohh if there's an unexpected flip I will change. My ego is strong. No one accuses me of being to humble in mafia. Explaining yo people who are dumb as rocks believing your shit is getting me nowhere. So I will call everyone town as dumb.

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Seriously Math's shit from her own pov makes zero fucking sense.

I am a survivor so I am going to claim cop and make scum want to kill me...and you guys believe that shit.

 

She's vanilla now.

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Titus: Have you summarized your case against Math and Sloth somewhere? Could you point me to it?

 

I will grab specfic posts tomorrow and I will summarize.

What is a vanilla third party? Bullshit.

Math is scum for claiming third party under zero pressure. Math has never drawn scum in a random distribution in a completed game. She would joke eternal townie. She knew any town claim would be met with suspicion.

Math hasn't scumhunted at all. She has Titus hunted the entire fucking game. She claims to be hireable but then she isn't for no reason.

Then she claims mysterious killstopper thus fucking with us figuring out what happened. Mathblade does not come out and claim this alleged guilty which would possibly get me lynched. She waits until after Sloth looks boned and no one in their right mind would lynch me due to being cleared.

She does this while claiming survivor. Bullshit. Snowvon's a stretch. What survivor gets a cop role? The nonexistant one especially given Blab and I are already the investigators.

Mathblade has done jackshit for town.

She has done plenty for scum. Snickerdoodle crumbs trying to see who the cookie monster is. Rubicon then follows by asking if Snowvon is cookie Monster?

Lyrium later asks if Von is Captain Hook. More flavorhunting.

Sloth again hasn't done shit. He laid back during Day 1. He opens with reads fish which are beneficial for scum. Might as well put a neon sign as to who he can mislynch.

Rubicon unvotes Lyrium preventing her lynch Day 1. Rubicon unvotes Sloth as his wagon gathered Steam.

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I am out for the night.

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Forgot one thing. Scum have our flavornames almost certainly.

 

If this is the case, I think it points to you being scum and outing this for towncred, since the way you came to this conclusion was based on so little evidence, yet you seem fairly certain. Thoughts?

 

There is plenty of evidence. You are ignoring it. We could have submitted anything from a pencil to God. No way anyone guesses the right flavor on the wrong player.

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Could not sleep sorry.

 

Okay, I'm going to write my thoughts about each of those points.

A vanilla third party is someone who started third party with possible, mysterious powers and then lost them after being targeted by a vanillaizer. The point is that if she has been vanillaized, her cop powers do not pose a threat to the scum team any more.

Most of Math's mafia & third party experience is from playing on our IRC chat (which is way too quiet lately). It's common on IRC for survivors to truthfully claim at the start of day one. It's a common Xylbot role, and people are usually willing to give the claim the benefit of the doubt for at least a while.

That is why I do not count this as evidence for her being scum: I can easily believe she would claim without being asked.

MathBlade said on day one that she would side with whoever helped her survive. It's very likely that she started tunneling you because you refused to do that. But do you think she wouldn't do this as a survivor? It's easy enough for me to believe she would.

The reason is that she was made vanilla by someone.

The ambiguity of Math's powers is suspicious. That said, the 'fucking with us figuring out what happened' part is not very strong: she claims the powers 'exploded' involuntarily.

I'll give you this one.

On the other hand, she did call you and blab mafia together very quickly after blab's claim (one page after). This is consistent with her having the result she claims to have.

Does Sloth look boned? I disagree. We wagon him in like, every game. It's a tradition.

Sloth would never condone her doing this to save him. He would probably be offended if she tried. Would she believe he needed or wanted her to counterclaim a mason to save him from you tunneling him? She believes he's good at looking town, after all.

I'll give you this one too.

I don't think anyone actually understands what Math is saying her role does, but she is obviously not a plain survivor. Snowvon is the plain Survivor role. She is something more bastardy, with weird power interactions that's she's not explaining well.

True, but she's not town.

I think you should consider the possibility I am just that observant. I asked Snow because his post about cookies was the one I noticed at that point; in hindsight, that whole conversation only happened because blab was crumbing his role. Some part of my mind picked up on that and asked (not very seriously because I thought it was more likely fluff) whether it was a crumb.

It's not like there are a lot of options for cookie-related roles. If you don't want me guessing Cookie Monster, don't crumb Cookie Monster.

I'm trying to determine how much your current reads are based on this theory that mafia have role information, because you seem to be basing it on me, and I know I'm town and have no special information. Your Lyrium read seems to have flipped since the start of the day, possibly in response to this?

If the flavor argument was proven wrong, would you still believe Lyrium was mafia?

All true, but probably not alignment-indicative for him. He has real life stuff happening.

 

Titus:

First of all, I am not you and you are really using a lot of dirty tricks.

Unless Blab speaks up about possibilities regarding his masonizing you and whether or not there could be bastard tricks involved, I believe jack squat of what you are saying.

Look at the most recent ika's game with me, Snow, Fonti, Atum, etc.. Snow was town, I was town. Snow tunneled me and I was really frustrated and also town ended up tunneling each other to death over being idiots. Also being a derp I decided people tunneling me couldn't be town so I did lead to some of those deaths. So don't apply your ***** meta to me. Do some real work and apply my meta to me or stfu.

I would rather die and take you out then do anything you suggested. So there. You want me to suicide? It'll be you that I take down so town can at least have a chance. Is that why you are out to get me? Right now its you. If I die at any point, its you. Yay for us.

Believe me, nothing you say will work on me this game so your buddies will have to NK me but I will take you down with me no matter what.

Night took a long time, extra time. MB could be the player that the interactions part was referring to.

Once again, you want to kill MB like since the first day. On the first day you were obsessed with not killing 3p like Citrus due to there being scum. Why don't you scum hunt?


As for Captain Hook, that was a joke and related to Once Upon a Time more then anything else so don't be crazy...oh wait...its to late.

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I like this post since it's knowledge she shouldn't have. I mean didn't we give our flavor names\characters? So it could be made up or a fusion of two characters names or whatever.

 

For the record Mathblade and Von both claimed survivor Rubicon. A survivor starting with a cop role and scum vanillaizing it is just beyond stupid and nonsensical.

Suevivors would have played the game D1.

Mod: For sake of stupidity, what is the wincon of a vanillaized survivot?

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@Rubicon, Sloth was boned. Every vote on his wagon was town after you peeled off. You and Sloth combined were pushing Fonti/Aekiel. Lyrium could hypothetically vote Sloth but at that point it would look like a bus.

If survivor is given the benefit of the doubt, why wouldn't scum claim it?

Why vanillaize the third party ateam when they can just be hired?

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Lyrium refuses to explode being suicide bomber in the most protown manner (on Math) the job of the suicide bomber is NOT to live at all.

Rubicon the big reason I am FoSing you is your killing of the wagon on Lyrium obvscum and your attempt to do so on Sloth. I have solid townreads on almost every other slot in the game.

Also, all of your focus seems to be doubtcasting me. You jump to doubting confirmed town rather than Math's obvious lies

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Lyrium explode on me. I flip town. We lynch Sloth snd Rubicon. Any killing role kills Mathblade. We win. Or are you not wanting to be outed as scum?

It's either me or Mathblade to explode on. I want the four of you confirmed.

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Oh and the fact Lyrium had to defend her Captain Hook guess as a jokeindicates she knows Hook is inthe game. Otherwise, she would say why don't we wait and see.

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http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Suicide_Bomber

Read the wiki. Town suicide bomber is supposed to die. Mafia Suicide bomber looks for ways out of dying.

Fuck it.

Vote:Lyrium

I have hammer on any other scum.

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There is not a chance in hell the vanillaizer skips over my role plus suicide bomber to hit third party. Not a chance.

So many lies. So little time.

Shit happens when I call the scumteam.

 

If you have no items they can't be. It ensures no one else can hire her.

 

Why would Lyrium explode on you when we can just lynch you?

Vote Titus

 

.......
Can somebody please, please, find Ja Rule so I can make sense of all of this?

 

How plausible is it town got all the items?

 

Mathblade, can you actually paraphrase what happened tonight to you in thread?

 

Just confirm I am town again.

Look at the Sloth wagon. Compare with my scumteam. No bussers. Then Math says cop. Rubicon is all over justifying that shit.

Lyrium is scum. Rubicon is scum. Sloth is scum. Math is 3rd party scumsiding.

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Blab you handle this shit. I am tempted to replace out due to the level of stupidity town is showing here.

 

1) People submitted whatever the fuck they wanted. Somehow I got turned vanilla.
2) Any power I would have gotten and known results about got told to me. Do I know if it is bastard, no. But I have my strong suspicions it isn't.
3) I saved someone from death and got a cop role of guilty on Titus.
4) I try to communicate a very epically long shitstorm to you all.

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Titus -- If you replace out because of "town" stupidity, that is really low. If I did that for every game I thought town was stupid in I wouldn't be in very many games. It also sends a message to every third party don't go against Titus or she will replace out. Play the game.