Things you would have to believe to believe Mathblade

1. No one attempted to hire Mathblade.
2. Scum Vanillaized Mathblade over a suicide bomber and a coroner who could out anyone who killed
3. Survivors start with cops and roleblockers
4. Math didn't reveal her wincon upon being vanillaed.
5. Math votes the only person who claimed to visit her and argues she protected her visitee from a kill but won't say who that is.
6. Math claims a cop guilty as a survivor rather than using it to scumside.
7. Math has zero other scumsuspects.
8. The game started witb three third parties.
9. Scum felt threatened enough to vanillaize an unknown over either Lyrium or myself.
10. Math was playing protiwn when hiding what protective roles she had or the mod never told a player what yheir roles were.
11. 5 page feedback.

 

You know, Math was probably vanillaized by town.

 

Since when does town get a vanillizer? Even supposing that is true and I get the implication that is why I am not screaming bullshit at you, why would town get a duicide bomber and a vanillaizer?

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That would imply two roles at least that might cause an extreme problem for town. Yet that's not consistent with a scumteam that cannot kill anyone.

 

It's bastard? Try to game the setup here is going to end in disaster.

 

Fonti, it's not gaming the setup to suppose each role has a point. We have

Snowvon, third party
Citrus, item collector
Blab, masonizer
Titus, coroner
Fonti, vanillaizer (strongly implied)
Luckyler, commuter
Kalas, ?????
Aekiel, ????
Dr. Whooves, ?????

Versus

Lyrium, Suicide bomber
Rubicon, ????
Sloth, ?????
Mathblade, lying 3rd party that scumsides.


If you vanillaized a lyncher, what would happen? The mod would be forced to decide if Lyncher was alignment or role.

 

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I'm not a vanillaizer, Titus.

 

5 is factually false. I should quit explaining things. I need tape recorder flavor.

 

Then why would you think vanillaizer was town or that it even exists?

 

Have that many people claimed? For shame.

 

Notice how Titus forgets Terraine. TBT for the win.

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Oh and 10 is false too. I as 3P always play pro me. If it helps town so be it. Regular scum so be it.

 

Ok, I am a simple masonizer (Town Baker is the actual rolename). One-shot. (Wanted to leave open if I could do something still, but whatever)
I don't want to believe that Lexicat gave me a one-shot role where that shot gives a false result. Imo, that's a case where my result makes me work against my wincon, when I try to catch scum with it. (like, it's not like I even have the chance to test if I'm a misfiring like a paranoid/naive cop). Also, I have the information as clearly as "Luckily, blab and Titus are both town, =>masonry", and if I interpret things in sign-up correctly, Lexicat said she wouldn't lie like that.

The only way I think my result could be false, is if a scumrole caused me too, but godfather doesn't make sense if Math actually has a guilty. (Also, if I take my role literally, my result on godfather would be: Titus is town, you don't get a masonry, though.)

I have never seen an active role-falsifier beyond demon!sheningans, but well, I don't really think that's what happened because Occam's Razor anyway (that exotic role must exist, must have targeted me and Titus must be scum, Mathblade gets correct scum!result because she got vanillalized vs. Titus is town, Mathblade is lying or wrong). And the thoughtprocess is kind of ridiculous anyway.

So, yeah, I still believe Titus is town.


I can't make sense of Mathblade's stuff.
Let's say everything she said is true (and her abilities are true!result), then:
I'm supposed to believe that because 3rd!party got vanillalized her role
a) protected a random target from (probably scum!)kill
b) got a scum!cop result
That's like a random mod!induced ++++++town result by third party?

But I also have problems to see scum!Math, primarily because I believed her third!party claim, but also because I don't really see the Math<=>Sloth connection, and I don't really think Rubicon is scum.

Which is why I want Mathblade to repeat as close as possible to still be allowed what was actually told to her.

Also, Math, I remember reading something about it, forgot though, but do you know who you protected? If yes, why are you not telling again?

 

Yes you did. And I said future questions along that line shall be trolled. Soooo
Your answer:

Spoiler

:fire

 

Which of these is the lie. Are you betting your life on 3P who helps town or are you in it for yourself and whatever happens happens?

 

Neither. In that instance I am helping town. Therefore I would bet my life I am helping town. Which is pro me because I live.

 

She claimed a changeable survivor win condition.

It happens. fonti's done it. I don't think Math has.

Her role claim is almost too bullshit to not have some element of truth in it. Which probably makes her third party, one way or another.

Let's taboo the word 'doubtcasting'.

I don't have to agree with you and support everything you say just because you're town.

 

Er, where the hell is Hooves? How can he POSSIBLY have fewer posts than me?

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@Lyrium

This is what really pisses me off about you and Titus.
I have never lied about RL in ANY game I’ve been in, and I’ve made it clear countless times I consider it an important rule, yet you always bring this passive-aggressive bullshit my way.
And, for whatever reason, not Aekiel’s it seems. He gets a by because there’s no convenience in doubtcasting him.
So, just going to say this once: Fuck off.

Is this a legitimate question? If you’re RBed as scum, you have as much reason to say so as Town.

All the townie points you garnered D1 are quickly running out by the bullshit questions and pointless comments you’re making…which are, after all, your scumtell.

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@Titus
I’m so glad I get to do this.

Listen here, you little shit.
Prove it. Explain how. Why. And what exactly makes you think I have ANY D1 knowledge. I brought that up in my last post and I’m fairly certain you ignored that completely.
You don’t want to be worthless in my eyes, Titus. I have no use for worthless people.
Back that up, or shut the fuck up.

Never agreed or heard from that consensus.
I recall saying back in D1 that I believed Citrus was 3er, but still needed to go. And the possibility that a 3er is lying, still buy that.
Furthermore, if there was such a consensus, I cannot see myself giving one shit. I do what I want.

Now this, this is an adorable pile of turd you tried to spitshine.
I don’t even think I ever said Rubicon was too high on my scum list ‘cept for that first wall, and he was only lean then.

This makes the LEAST amount of sense in a scum!Sloth world, and I’ve explained why. My target would have absolutely been you.
You don’t get to shove your head in the sand and pretend your stupidity hasn’t been called out as stupidity. You either address it or sit down and let the adults talk.

This is another case of bullshit.
First of all, I voted for you #1366, and explained why. You only started saying you were suspicious of me #1399, after trying to sway me to vote Math constantly, and then finally voted me #1456.
Second of all… …actually that’s it. Hard to argue with numbers. So, you know, fuck off.

I was going to address this, but Rubicon sort of said what I would have said, G-rated style:

Yeah, no offense to your sister, but you’re retarded if you think I’d let her do absolutely anything without my direct, clear permission if we were scummates. I’m just much better at planning than her.
Also, revise your definition of boned – I had 3 votes and you 4 when the tide shifted towards me, and we needed 8 to lynch so…yeah, you’re stupid.

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…you seriously need to read more.
OK, no – Blab can’t be scum. It’s already been brought up but why the hell would he stick his neck out for Titus so damningly when, again, she wasn’t even in that much danger of being voted? This is Blab, I’d much sooner believe he’d bus her.

At the same time, Math’s claims are so insane and ridiculous I have a hard time believing she’d make all of that up so clumsily. Which probably means she’s not scum ‘cause if she is, her scummates would have to be…REALLY freaking stupid to allow her to say all that.
She’s probably telling the truth…

So neither Math nor Blab are scum in my eyes…yet they give conflicting results on Titus.
One of them is getting the wrong result, and I kinda wanna say it’s Blab.
I think Blab may be a Jailer, like Zennith in a past game, not a Masonizer, he’s just been TOLD he’s a Mason, ‘cause, you know, Bastard.
I believe that over Math’s incredibly complex ridiculously overblown seemingly endless abilities that she lost ‘cause…if even half of that’s true and SHE’S the one that the mods have lied to, then Lexi seriously put a shit-ton of work for nothing.

That, and everything else I’ve been saying about Titus – plus her posts have gotten stupider now that she feels she’s safe.

Time will tell I guess. At this point, I just say lynch Titus, see what she flips and take it from there. Someone’s wrong here, and we need to know who.

VOTE TITUS
Bring on the OMGUS, people.

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P.S. I love that my flavor allows me to talk like this.
Btw, claim incoming in a few hours. Guesses?

 

Can I get mini read wall Sloth....or at least a rainbow?

Rubicon I asked you for one too a few pages back I believe.

 

Working on it.

 

MathBlade, why can't you answer blabs questions and why do you troll instead? At this point town getting a scum would allow for alignment and other kinds of analysis like for interactions.

Then, is the vanillaizer most likely one shot or multiple?

 

Snowvon - third party
MathBlade - third party

Blab - town
Luckylee - town
Lyrium - town (was SK, but wondering about how similar her power is to Snow's)
TerRaine - town

Atum - town?
Zenzao - town?
Kalas - town?

Doctor Whooves - not mafia?

Sloth - null
Titus - who knows
Aekiel - scum?
Fontisian - scum?