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CYS: Aria of Torment

Discussion in 'Little Italy' started by Lexicat, Sep 12, 2014.

  1. MathBlade

    MathBlade First Year

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    Yay!! Fluffery!

    @Rubicon -- Changing your beliefs doesn't change the truth.

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    No idea. I will pray for him.
     
  2. Lyrium

    Lyrium Sent Back to India

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    Again, MathBlade explain as if to a slow person...is there a Mod related reason why you can't say who you protected or who shot them?

    Sloth, so if I do it every game and the majority of games I've been town and you've been town except Werewolf where you NKed me night one...what does that tell you? That particular comment should only get to you if you are scum, otherwise watevs.

    Ok, so I always hate people bringing up real life in thread. It harms my scum reads. In the last game I played on DLP someone bringing something from outside game into thread shredded my read of them so yes I hate players bringing RL into the game as a reason for their play. Sure bring it into the game but not as reasons why you can't post\read\etc.

    As for Aekiel, I've asked him a question or two and waiting on an answer but other places on DLP he's mentioned the RL stuff being heavy so if it turns out he is scum which it doesn't feel like it (vibes) then that would suck.

    Anyway, since so much is out anyway I'm not sure why MB hiding stuff now makes sense so walk me through MB why you can't help town.

    If there were any questions for me then just ask again.

    Rubicon, I actually thought the same thing re: Snow but he won't come out to play, he's hiding from my questioning so meh for now.

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    Isn't your job coroner? Isn't it supposedly a boon for town? SO the questions in my mind re: you guessing\knowing my ability before I really stated it include these:

    1. I was roleblocked last night. Someone had to have done that to me since other people apparently used their abilities.

    Scenario A. It was scum who roleblocked me because they were afraid of the suicide pact, and who is my top scum read at end of day one? Titus.

    Scenario B. It was town who blocked me because they are suspicious of me, they didn't want me to trigger happy, they wanted to protect my top target - Titus.


    Scenario C. It was 3rd party who blocked me. I can't think of why but its a rare possibility.

    A or B seems most likely to me. What concerns me more is if they continue to block me in attempts to do the following:
    1. Protect Titus
    2. Goad me to kill Titus

    Obviously, Blab saying Titus is town is helpful especially in the case where Blab can be conf!town. Blab, since you always have lots of good reads, I expect more from you right now. The cat is out of the bag re:mason baker thing so do reads, solve the game, get the scum murdered.

    Then, re: captain hook. I googled Mafia + captain hook but didn't get any game related stuff. Is Titus just bsing again or is captain hook a thing in mafia?

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    My flavor was inspired by mythology and a fantasy series. No spoilers yet, I guess but did most people do film\tv stuff?
     
  3. MathBlade

    MathBlade First Year

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    Because IMO it probably won't help town. If I keep secret who would have died them scum doesn't know if their kill target was bastardized or manipulated by town. By staying quiet scum has to spend a turn to deduce it and could possibly shoot themselves.

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    No mod reason no. Just IMO it is stupid.
     
  4. Lyrium

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    Ok, so in the best case scenario my reasoning is that most likely that person isn't up for lynch or in danger from a town mislynch right now. Which does make sense, why attract more attention to a target when its already there. There's some other things I"m thinking possible but probably should think about more carefully for now.

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    MathBlade, then do you have any clues on scum identity? I know you said you got a guilty on Titus. Is it possible your check was manipulated due to the crazy that went down? Is there any info about scum you could hint or share?
     
  5. MathBlade

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    As Kalas asked and I answered before it is possible the check was the bastard thing but it seems like an awful amount of work for the mods to do that. Then again if a check would be bastard in a real game maybe it is now. But based on play and a check Titus likely scum.

    Yes I am ignoring the first paragraph. Intentionally.

    I think a guilty vote is pretty good here. Too much town help and I die.
     
  6. Titus

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    I didn't guess or know your ability Lyrium. Your premise is a load of hogwash.

    Coroner at best will net me one scum. You exploding on me nets a scum. My job is done.
     
  7. MathBlade

    MathBlade First Year

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    Your job is to hunt scum and break the game. Powers are a bonus. Scum think in terms of how many people they take out before they die.
     
  8. Titus

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    Wrong. Town do break the game but they don't think their survival is extra important. I am a one shot coroner. At best I net one scum with my role. If I get Lyrium to do that, I tie my expected.
     
  9. Atum

    Atum DA Member DLP Supporter

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    I need to know the probable ratio town:3p:scum.
     
  10. Titus

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    Third parties are rare in games smaller than 16. 3 is far too many for them all to townside.
     
  11. Vaimes

    Vaimes Fifth Year

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    Well now there's only two of us.

    So.
     
  12. MathBlade

    MathBlade First Year

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    Hug me Snowvon you fluffy awesomeness. 3P for the V!
     
  13. Sloth

    Sloth Professor DLP Supporter

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    Bit quiet in here.

    Ok, so obviously, didn't have time to look very deeply into Lyrium tonight. Fine by me, I'll work towards analyzing her and others...maybe tomorrow, most likely on Sunday.

    In the meantime, I'm Town Motivator, Jordan Belfort. I use my obscene riches to grant you an additional action per Night.

    And last Night, I granted Lee this boon. I assumed the fucker's claim was true and decided to let him take out as many as possible in case Scum made a play for him - hopefully two scumreads, but if he was actually stupid enough to really shoot at me, he'd at least be forced to shoot someone he actually thought was scum.
    'Course that all fell apart when Lee turned out to be Commuter, and probably the only freakin' PR in the entire fuckin' game on whom my ability was absolutely useless and non-confirmable (hence my questions regarding limits/usage).
    But dem's the breaks when you play the Stocks game.

    I'll bounce back. I always do.
    I'm the Wolf, baby.

    Night!
     
  14. Aekiel

    Aekiel Angle of Mispeling ~ Prestige ~ DLP Supporter

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    Yeah, sorry guys. I'm going to have to replace out.

    I can't afford to put time into this game when I should be out hunting for jobs.

    Sorry for being so inactive before this as well. I realised during my last game that shift work hours don't work well with games like this. I'm just tired all the time and these games require a ton of effort that I can't give.
     
  15. Lyrium

    Lyrium Sent Back to India

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    Good luck on the job search, Aekiel and (fingers crossed) hoping things get better.

    Sloth, is there a reason you claimed right now at this moment with only a few votes on you? I just want to know if its mass claim time or something.

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    Titus, you no longer stress me out now that I realized your game. I still make you nervous, win for me.

    You've been up for lynch each day, well just like me, so you want to take out a town with you so that you have some use for the scum team.

    As for my role, it was given to me and I will play it as I see best not through your half-wit directions.

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    It's a bastard game so my first through is anything goes but if people have played bastard games with or without Lexi and can speculate on like ratios of town to scum to third party and the likelihood of a third party team vs individual, please do share.

    Snow, give us a rainbow. The colors can make it fluff, the read list can be something that keeps you from being useless.

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    I'm actually unsure of the Titus issue. Right now, I'm of a mind to just ignore\troll it until it stops barking like a mad dog.

    Blab based only on Titus's play so far and what you know of her

    (for example what I know of her as town in Dresden was that she deduced that Citrus was scum and made actual cases - here she is just blowing steam throwing out names and unfortunately relying on lies which I don't even know why),

    if you had to disregard the mason and the check as of now as being suspicious...how would you place Titus in terms of town\scum?

    This actually goes for anyone who has played with Titus before...what is your read of her based on her play\posts alone?

    Blab, if you were directing me in deciding to kill someone...who would you have me suicide pact with? Why?

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    P.S. I just noticed that in the rules there isn't one of those warning things like "Mass claims will ruin the game\enjoyment\etc" so what are everyone's thoughts on mass claim.

    In this kind of game would it help us sort through things?
     
  16. Aerylife

    Aerylife Not Equal

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    Mass claiming in a closed set up is only beneficial to scum.

    Sigh. I'm really... not feeling it. Like, before Blabs claim, I was pretty set on Titus being scum. And now Mb makes this claim. And Sloth makes his claim.

    The situation is beyond irritating.

    At this point... we can confirm Sloth's role. We have him boon someone we trust/believe to be town. Personally I'd say... TerRaine, Fonti, or Rubicon.

    We lynch Titus, if Titus flips scum, awesome. Blab is probably maybe scum if Titus flips. Or bastard role shenanigans are involved :/ If Titus doesn't flip scum, we lynch Mathblade and see if Sloth boons someone that is town.

    Lynch Vote Titus

    If anyone has a better idea, or questions/comments/concerns, let me know.
     
  17. Titus

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    Luckylee, Can't you see Sloth is buddying the shit out of you? Why would a so called motivator motivate a vig that had the game wrong from his perspective? That also gives a reaspn for Sloth to have done jackshit. A multikilling vig who reads the game wrong is just deadly for town. Yet Sloth is telling ypuhe did this to get you to townread him.

    Also look at Lyrium's dumb as fuck discredit. She says Titus isn't making vases when that has been all I have been doing since the start. You can track my trajectory.


    Look at ehy you allegedly thought I was scum. You thought I was scum because I allegedly defended scum Citrus. Citrus flips third party. I was an investigative role confirmed by another investigative role. We will have to be nked before lylo before then.

    Hell lynch me the very next day if any of my scumreads flip town. Just try to kill Math without lynching her bc I am pretty confident Math could be lyncher/jester.

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    If y'all keep Sloth around, the only acceptable choice for him is Blab. Blab would get another cookie and he can confirm Luckylee or Fonti. He could scumfirm Rubicon as well.
     
  18. Vaimes

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    Snowvon

    Lyrium
    blab
    Zenzao
    Rubicon


    fontisian
    Luckylee
    TerRaine


    Atum
    Titus
    Doctor Whooves


    Sloth
    Kalas
    Aekiel


    MathBlade

    I sort of lost track of my reads when the Titus/MathBlade/blab disaster struck so I don't really know what to do about them, especially since blab said he was one shot (yes?). I'm not lynching anyone above Atum without compelling evidence.

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    Yeah, I checked, and blab said he was one-shot. So. No more cookies.
     
  19. Lyrium

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    The problem is Titus, that you are blatantly lying over and over and over again. Did you not state in this very thread that you tried to get me to kill Atum? And don't use "drunk" as an excuse for some of the nonsense that you have posted in this thread.

    MathBlade, would you be willing to die over your guilty check on Titus? As in, if Titus was lynched today. She flipped town, you are the next to die in whatever means.

    Titus, are you willing to die over your scum read Sloth? Again, I don't believe Sloth's claim quite yet hence the questions to him. If we lynch Sloth toDay and he flips town it will be you then Blab next. Is that acceptable?

    Finally, Titus...point to a case you have made in this thread. As in provide the post# where you quoted a player's posts and then analyzed them to show scum mentality over the course of the game.

    Kalas has already stated that what I did when trying to figure you out was not a case, therefore I'm also interested in what he has to say about your claim that you have been making cases all along.

    Unless you are able to explain\do these things Titus you are a non-entity. I am more concerned that you are the lyncher\jester in the game because you have brought up both of these roles first and then your play actually fits in with them since you want me to kill you and\or you are hell bent on acting in a way that would get you quick lynched if we didn't have our thinking caps on.

    Your suspicions on Rubicon are without any support. Again make a case.
    Use post\mentality analysis or heck you might even try some interaction analysis. Do the work, since this is the first time you've been so resistant to actually quoting\analyzing like you keep stating you will do but have not done so.

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    Lucky, I like having Sloth prove his ability by having him gift a town read player who can then confirm said gift. I'm trying to figure out the Titus lynch and if there are any better options.

    I'm okay with Sloth gifting Fontisian, Rubicon. I'm trying to figure out if he gifts Blab, could blab then confirm\mason another role and see if there was shenanigans involved with his first mason (or is this too risky if blab could be scum).

    16 player game that is bastard. Could there be crazy ratios in this? Like 4 scum, 4 third party, 8 town?
     
  20. Aerylife

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    To be completely fucking honest Titus, you have a point. I might be dead wrong. But on the other hand, you may be lying scum.

    Lynching you clears up a lot of things.

    If you flip town, we will lynch Mathblade/Sloth. Unless Sloth is confirmed from his role by someone we trust. Hell you can even pick who Sloth uses his ability on if you don't trust us, and if he lies, he gets lynched.

    Sloth has a role we can somewhat confirm, you have one that relies on someone dying, and if scum decide not to submit a kill again, we're at step one all over again.

    What is your alternative idea, Titus? Because I'm honestly not seeing a better one.