RB is not my ability Lyrium.

@MB, still typing. Up soon.

 

Wrong. Both Sloth and Lyrium shots should be used. 1 use permits retrial until successful. 1 shot can be blocked into oblivion.

 

To clear this up once and for all.

MB claims 3p Survivor with changing wincon, with an ability to be "Hired" for items (whatever that entailed). N1 MB was Vanilla-lized. This set off a multiple abilities that MB did not have 100% control over, one of which was a Cop check (you mentioned it wasn't your choice to check Titus iirc) and protection (?). You are now reduced to Survivor with no additional abilities. Correct?

 

Yayayayayayayayay!!!!!!!!! Finally someone gets it!

 

Final point to just be completely clear: was there anything in your pages about a RB? Link the post if I missed it.

And woo! Once that's answered we know! Confusion gone.

 

Alright Mathblade is lying or unable to understand the flavor of her abilities going haywire or something, because her story is simply unbelievable even if it wouldn't contradict my info.

Back to Titus is town and needs to stop pushing scenarios with absolute certainty even if they do make sense (like Mathblade being lyncher, behavior makes sense, vanilalization taking longer becuase her wincon needed resolving, Mathblade actually likely to choose that based on D1, etc), because it's still only a scenario and I wouldn't bet on it against the field.

I forgot about Zen a bit, which is a bad sign, but he is probably still town?

Same thing about Atum.

Ter is town, too.

So is probably Rubicon.

So is Lyrium.

I don't know why Lucky is townread so strongly (Rubicon? fontisian?), though I do have a mild townread on him, too. think he is more likely to be scum in town!font worlds, though.

Except I have a townread on fontisian, too.

I'd like to let Sloth do his stuff to confirm his role, because I like motivated town.

Kalas, Aekiel, Dr. Whooves


Too many townreads?


Hmm, Rubicon, fontisian, fight for sheep!me.

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My ability was titled ability but still centered around the item cookies, and "item" was never even mentioned. I'd assume a RB blocks all abilities and abilities being items is only relevant for roles centered around stuff being items (Citrus?)

 

The Lyrium one is a guess as stated earlier today (phone posting will link it later.) The reason being is because I wasn't given any restrictions as to who could hire me and Lyrium said something about killing for her role. So it is likely either doctor did or I RB'd. That is not definitive.

I appreciate you keeping trying to understand. I really wish I could like talk wit the people trying in a private chat or something to let serious questions be asked.

 

Checking in on my break - quick things:
I am not one-shot. Stop talking about it. Seriously cannot think of a bigger waste of time than arguing heatedly about this when you can just wait for me to confirm.
Asked Lexi if my ability grants a one-shot an additional shot. Awaiting response.

Don't have time to reply to everything in detail, but Jesus when it comes to Titus...basically you can take each of her arguments and add "says the retard" at the end and that's all that's needed.
Town can't have multiple shots? Are you high? Sidebar, did lucky ever say he was one-shot? I asked him about drawbacks and he didn't say he did. So...you're making shit up.
Titus is either too scared of being wrong as town or too desperate to get me lynched as scum for some reason. Can we just agree to ignore her as white noise?

 

There is no cult, because I am your god.

Pray by eating cookies and you shall gain admittance to the heavens while the unfaithful shall be cursed with lactose-intolerance and bad taste.

 

I don't recall ever admitting anything about my ability other than "nope" tbh.

Blab, who should we lynch then? Because your post basically amounts to everyone reads town and Idk what to do. Ja Rule isn't gonna come save us this time, and we need to lynch somebody.

 

Yes, I can't make up my mind, currently.

I kinda want to lynch fonti because too many townreads-paranoia (with fonti being, you know, good at this game) and to be able to analyze D1.

I would also be open to a lynch on Aekiel, Kalas, Dr. Whooves, but a town!flip on them would probably tell us nothing? That shouldn't really be the main motivation anyway, but I don't really know who I want to lynch the most of them even.

I don't have the time to lead a lynch anyway, because I have an acute case of my time being in high demand right now.

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Vote Dr. Whooves

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nah,

Vote: fontisian

Rubicon, I want to see you convincing.

fontisian, do you actually want to lynch Rubicon? If not, who do you want to be today's lynch?

 

@Sloth, You and Lyrium should get your stories straight. Lyrium says I am not making cases. You say all my cases are retarded.

Of course you want the town that has cracked the game ignored. Well newsflash, I am not voting for anyone town or townsiding (Von). I am not helping Math in case I am wrong and she is jester.

That leaves Rubicon Sloth and Lyrium.

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My god if we are hellbent on lynching town lynch me blab. That end to day 1 does not come from scum.

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Then maybe just maybe you will handle the actual scums. Sorry for getting Rubicon and Lyrium backwards and not carrying town while being the mislynch du jour.

 

You're wrong about me but too stubborn to see it so if you are town then maybe you should self-vote because even if you were right about one of your suspects, its impossible for any rational person to believe you because you rely on lying and misrepresenting information.

Point to a post # where you made a rational case. I'll look it up right now.

Everyone who knows me and has played with me is reading me as town, except for you. Why is that? Are you conf!biased or just pissed at my initial suspicion towards you. I don't expect town!Titus to be so blinded to what's in front of her nose so I don't get what is going on with you beyond that you suck right now at being pro-town.

Point to a post# for one case. Just one.

 

Blab: Him or Sloth.

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I'd consider Whooves if he showed up.

 

Fontisian, can you provide a case for Sloth and Rubicon?

Mod aka Lexi: Dr. Whoves has been awol for some days now. Umm..intervention?

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Oh and still waiting on Kalas for what he has promised is forthcoming.

 

Sloth is reading the rest of the thread and is instead asking for summarizations because he doesn't actually care about scumhunting.

Rubicon is focuses on emphasizing that this is totally his town meta and there's not way he could fake it, instead of actually pushing his reads.

 

Do you all think those are plausible statements for fontisian to believe?

 

So updated reads from 1453 (oh god why).

LL data acquired. This is town Lee. I know that posting anywhere.

Zenzao. Still derp!Town, haven’t seen anything to change that read.

Snowvon, is hilarious. ‘Loses track’ of his reads but still posts a rainbow. Who’s on the very bottom? The player with the proclaimed ability to take him down and a desire to do so? Scummiest scum. The player with the ability to do so but not interested in targeting him? Towniest town. The buddying is real. This is looking more and more like scum on auto-control to me. Even if you don’t agree please keep this in mind if he’s still alive late game.

Lyrium is irritating to read. My gut still says scum to me for stated reasons and the undertone that she’s needs to make it to endgame so she can carry. On the other hand my top town read is firmly town reading her and I can’t honestly say personal feelings aren’t seeping into my read (see below).

Titus is still a town read. The number of conditions that would need to be true to be scum is just unimaginable to me.

Blab had some things posted Day 1 that I thought were odd. Looking back I’d imagine this was some form of crumbing/searching for a mason target. Based on that and things posted today he’s either town or the derpiest scum to ever scum.

Doctor Whooves is impossible to say. Non-players going to non-play.

Sloth ability is believable, Motivator in a one-shot heavy game makes a lot of sense. Can’t picture a scum Motivator targeting LL. And revealing TR’s flavor strikes me as a derp of the Town variety. Should be easily confirmable tomorrow.

Aekiel is back to Null given RL reasons.

MB is still 3P. How bastard of a 3P role is the question. I can’t imagine a scum!Titus world. So that just puts MB at various levels of bastard/fucked with. The one constant being we cannot Lynch her. Which could be exactly what she wants. Bleh.

TR continues the trend. Infrequent posts but I appreciate them. Vote needs to get on someone useful.

Rubicon, is down to null with a chance of scum. I watched his read of me drop continuously throughout a period I wasn’t posting with what amounted to zero reasoning. See meta town read yesterday with post 1800 to 1849 and 1870. This needs to be explained.

Fonti is down to null. Posting style has done almost a complete 180 from Day 1. She seems a lot more.. open? To opposing ideas. Not sure what she’s playing at.

Atum is.. eh. Why did you have me down as your number one lynch then not vote me? How does this make sense to you?

The Titus slip. Could be relevant depending on today’s flip. Some warm milk would be lovely. Be less scummy. Etc.

a)Possible. Though the number of people I would consider conf!Town I can count on one hand. The 180 is weird in tone post is what makes this more likely then others.



b)This is the real issue. There still isn't enough data for a real Day 1 analysis, the only real information we have is routinely ignored.


c)In a scum font world I see Lyrium, for the one-two punches yesterday. Not sure enough to say a third or fourth member from there. Maybe Snow? But that has its own issues.

Third parties are individual, with the exception of Cults. That’s all there is to it. If they were a team they’d have flipped scum.

Ok, let’s be clear here. You made a post on Titus without offering a real opinion. Just pure summaries of posts. I called called you out on it. This was your opportunity to repost your ‘read’ with supporting opinions making an argument people could follow ie a case. That was the town thing to do. It would have been easy. Instead you freak out and start throwing shit. Get over it.

Reads see above. In a scum team outside of you, Snow looks a lot worse due to similar roles. Possibly Aekiel as well.

If you’re thinking Titus has not made a case all game then you have literally not been reading her posts. Reread. Go from there.

For answered questions see above. For cases see above. As it’s a concept you’re having phenomenal difficulty with feel free to ask questions. I’ll try to use small words.

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On Sloth, I'd consider it a null tell more then anything. There's been more then one game where coming back to a million posts has sapped my motivation.

On you? Yes. I mentioned the meta thing yesterday. You waved it off. The second part? Depends on how you address my above point.

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@Atum: 16 players, 1 confirmed 3rd party. So 15 unknowns with two proclaimed 3rd party. Leaving 13 players town/scum players. Two possible worlds:

1) Both remaining 3rd parties are third party. 10:3 would be the most logical ratio. At 9:4, in a worst case scenario, one mislynch, one NK and we'd be at 7:4. One or two townies get on the wrong wagon, scum dogpile and third parties flip, that'd be game.

2) At least one 3rd party is scum. 11/3 doesn't seem like the best, while a 10:4 ratio would be viable as its not a possible game over by Day 2.

 

Rubicon: Have you forgotten how to pretend to be town? Serious question.

 

Kalas, link to one Titus post where she makes a case that has influenced your vote\read on a player. Just one post. I already asked her to do this, now I"m asking you to do it as well. Let's see who gets there first.

I don't believe I"ll make it to end game, my power is not setup for that. However, I would like to make it a little farther then day one or day two. It's been fun so far. Also, I don't freak out. I'm always like this. Always. And. Forever.

Do you have any questions for me or any of your null\possible scum\question mark peoples?

Finally, is Fonti's #1916 making cases or is it an example of making general statements?

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Oh and Kalas based on what you know or assume of my ability, what is your "trajectory" of how it should be used?

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I can't quote for some reason so just putting this here (the most useful thing from Kalas' post):

@Atum: 16 players, 1 confirmed 3rd party. So 15 unknowns with two proclaimed 3rd party. Leaving 13 players town/scum players. Two possible worlds:

"1) Both remaining 3rd parties are third party. 10:3 would be the most logical ratio. At 9:4, in a worst case scenario, one mislynch, one NK and we'd be at 7:4. One or two townies get on the wrong wagon, scum dogpile and third parties flip, that'd be game.

2) At least one 3rd party is scum. 11/3 doesn't seem like the best, while a 10:4 ratio would be viable as its not a possible game over by Day 2. "

So from my understanding this is a 3-4 scum possibility with one of the claimed neutrals possibly being a scum.

Therefore, scumhunting is re: individuals but also a 3-4 person team.

If we mislynch today, and of course depending on what shenanigans take place toNight, in how many days does town need to get scum? That should just help me plan my own things.