Font doesn't give reasons (PART 1):

https://forums.darklordpotter.net/showpost.php?p=753958&postcount=254.
Post 254 is not quotable for some reason.

 

font, if you read any more post by me at least let it be this one:

i have tried to improve, the problem you're seeing is that im not improving to your expectations. i play to try to enjoy myself, i have tried to make it to where i can enjoy myself and let others at the same time. the fact remains is that your style and my style aren't just meant to be then. The problem i have with you is that, you just go agro-shit on players who don't agree with you or don't understand. yes you can solve a game easy, yes you can POE everyone. but when half of the player base goes "make a case" you go apeshit at everyone and call everyone stupid.

Font, the thing is, nobody listens to you b/c you just yell at everyone they are wrong. If you played with titus when she first began you wouldn't believe how bad her tunnels were. However she has improved drastically.

The game is about having fun, its not about being right or wrong. I always strive for that but sometimes lose it in my moments of outbursts. I have learned to curve my anti-town from what it once was and where it began.

The simple matter is this: I use these game to escape real life problems that i have to deal with on a daily basis. I have tried to curve it to where I can be both myself as anti-town(ish) yet let everyone enjoy that game.

If you can't also improve yourself to understand other players when they ask something. Then maybe the simple fact is that you are the problem.

 

Kalas antagonized Rubicon quite a lot and seemed to side with you which is just weird. It could be like his buddying and leading of Titus or it could be a scum to scum interaction. I'm trying not be a moronic town as usual even though may have done it already.

Mostly I see Fonti arguing with Rubicon. Kalas arguing with Rubicon. Rubicon defending Sloth.

Fonti -> This is not a case: https://forums.darklordpotter.net/showpost.php?p=760331&postcount=1988

You have far too many posts like that...point me to one that is building cases that make sense and you can direct me tonight.

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Oh Ninja'ed, let me look it over then.

Although Citrus and Rubicon are third party so maybe you aren't good at determining scum in a three faction game or what?

 

Wow, the random post that you picked out wasn't a case? What are the odds?

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Third parties are messing with my scumdar. I've outed every one except Mathblade so far instead of actual scum which is just irritating.

 

Yeah, okay..I need a break to clear my head.

Fonti, just look at your own cases. Citrus and Rubicon were 3p and Titus was town although I am hoping it turns out she was scum with some bastard flip otherwise Idk what was going on with her.

Fresh air and then tell me why you think Sloth needs to die.

I agree about Whoves but it needs to be a modkill because its too nuts for town to have to lynch a lurker\non-player slot that is scum. It's not fair.

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And if Whoves is town then its not fair to town that we are wasting time on discussing him while scum knows already who they are or aren't and what they need to do.

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As for MathBlade, you answered yes to the question asking if you are scum?

IDK, I can't think anymore. Will be back later if there are questions and such.

 

Fonti still doesn't give reason: Part 2.

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Wow, look as those nonexistent reasons: Part 3

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Part 4:

Which brings up to now, with Lyrium and Sloth as the obvious scum. Any specific questions?

 

People define scum as non town here. Therefore me being third party using the definition everyone else uses makes me scum. Soooo ?

 

Vote Count 3.3 ~ 67 hours remain.

[3] Sloth ~ Snowvon, MathBlade, ika
[1] fontisian ~ Lyrium
[1] MathBlade ~ Luckylee

[6] Not Voting ~ Atum, Dr Whooves, fontisian, Sloth, TerRaine, Zenzao

With 11 alive, it's 6 to lynch!

Deadline is at 8:30 PM EST on October 14th.

Sorry bout the wait; I spent way too long screenshotting stuff to report someone cheating on another mafia site last night. I have zero update about the Dr. Whooves situation. If you know anyone who might want to replace in, try to get them in contact w Lexi. If I'm still awake and you guys post a couple of more times I'm happy to bump this to the next pagetop since this page is long as fuck.

 

Oh MB, seriously though? I define scum as scum, town as town, and 3p as 3p. Not sure if that was derp or what but why make things any messier then they are?

Fontisian, usually your cases are a little more detailed is what I guess I feel is lacking.

I'm not sure why you are linking me and Sloth. Is there interaction and\or other analysis to actually back it up? Otherwise, it would be easier to link me to you or MB.

Anyway, deadline is October 14 so I was panicking for no reason.

We have 2 whole days to figure this out. If Sloth is town then Fontisian is scum, and needs to be murdered. If Sloth is scum then there is a third scum and I need to reread to figure out who it is.

Oh and Fonti, try doing what Titus failed to do. If you had to adjust so that I was conf!town how do your reads change?

And thanks for acknowledging that a lot of your reads this game have been off. For anyone who has played with Fontisian in a game with 3rd party..is this the case?

Oh and Citrus and Rubicon are third parties confirmed. That means one of MathBlade or Snowvon cannot be third parties.

16 players.
3-4 scum.
2-4 third parties.
9-11 town players.

In terms of balance, how many town players are needed for the game to not be auto-scum win? Like what is the minimum number of town?


Quoting the old school way:
"Deadline is at 8:30 PM EST on October 14th."

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Thanks so much Delphine, that was seriously needed.

 

Stop that.

 

Uh fuck I didn't mean to post this. Hi??

 

Hi there. Come here often?

 

Hi Delphine! How's it going?

Snowvon, so do you mean to say that in a 16 player game there are 4 third parties? Yes or no and why? How many scum does that mean there have to be?

Oh look Sloth narrowly escaped being lynched and then disappeared. No last will either.

Fontisian refuses to adjust her reads even after being wrong on Citrus, Titus, Rubicon, and who else? She was right on Kalas though so let's see 1/?

Everyone else does not know how to phone post even if they are out and about enjoying a 3 day weekend?

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P.S. I asked a player to replace but they were daunted by the 3k posts so no luck there.

Therefore, can we just have a player vote count on mod killing Dr. Whoves?

Or, if the dead don't get obs can blab or rubicon replace Dr. Whoves?

Lexi, this situation needs to be addressed plz.

 

I was wrong about Titus and only Titus. Citrus and Rubicon were both not town. Are you considering third parties non-scum because they're not on your team?

 

Wait what?

I consider town to be town.
Scum to be scum
Third party to be third party and possibly they can win with town or scum and they get to decide or something like that. Is that not the case?

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So unless third party cannot win with town or something I don't see high value in getting rid of third party over scum. That just makes the third party want to help scum and be anti-town and since it's a bastard game with some players ghosting it up then we need all the allies we can get.

Also, did you at least attempt to try to view the game with me as conf!town..what were your thoughts based on that?

 

You realize the only difference you being confirmed town would make is that every read would be bumped down a step? I do unaligned pairs, not interaction analysis.

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You also realize that making stuff up and attempting to put words in my mouth isn't helping your case, right?

 

Explain, more?

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What did I make up, lol? Seriously?

Your belief seems to be killing third party Rubicon was awesome and my belief is that it sucked because he could have been an asset to town. Comparatively, while I like Citrus his role of theft was one where I thought it was a threat to town.

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I hope you aren't referring to the sarcasm as "making things up." It's just me being sarcastic.

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Also, I know this may be hard but if you really utterly think I'm scum. Vote Me. I'll self-hammer. It'll stop the discussion that somehow keeps centering on me instead of scum. Or on third parties instead of scum. Basically, the game has not been on scum but on town or third party and that is bad.

I'll admit now my play hasn't been great this game at all, idk why..I think Titus\Kalas ganging up on me threw me off and caused me to spill and be blatant. My only fear is town losing because of my idiocy so other then that..what?

 

So Fonti/Sloth...

I don't really see any other options at this point and deadline is Tuesday. Anyone got any other thoughts other than the Fonti/Lyrium fight to which I just say *ugh*

 

You think Rubicon would have been an asset to town because of what exactly? Rainbows and ponies? He was deliberately having bad reads to avoid getting shot. How is that pro-town?

Here, let me look over the last 5 pages and quote every piece of bullshit/lie.

1. Claiming that I haven't written cases, when I have.
2. Claiming that I don't write cases as scum and do as town, which is not true of the games you've played with me.

3. Claiming that Kalas has the ability to come back to life and that me killing him is therefore scummy, even though you have no evidence of that.

4. Random speculation about Kalas' role with the idiotic assumption that scum would chose to die.

5. Trying to set up a theory about Rubicon being shot when the likely reason scum didn't kill Night 1 is that you were roleblocked. Ignoring that Rubicon was not town.

6. Claiming that I had disappeared because I decided to sleep in.
7. Claiming that me being absent means I am scum, even though I tend to be more active in my scum games.

8.Claiming that I haven't given reads or reasons, when I clearly have.

9. Trying to make it look like I've changed my read on her over nothing when in reality she claimed a scum role.
10. Claiming that I'm "focused" on Whooves, when my actual post said "maybe Whooves" and he was the least likely of my group of four scum.
11. Again claiming that I haven't written cases. Shockingly, it's still bullshit.

12. Claiming that Rolecop is a popular town and scum role, when the site linked to specifically says its a common scum role in high power setups like this one.
13. Trying to say Rubicon was town again, when he was actual a third party.
14. Trying to back out of her early claim of Rolecop. This is obvious bullshit, because it means that she tried to stop a townfirm on the person who killed him for no reason.
15. Trying to dismiss her attempts to stop me from being confirmed town as not helping the scum team.
16.Claiming that I'm too scared to 1v1 her when I have already agreed to.

17. Begging me to stop scumreading her for her roleclaim.
18. Bullshit "checks and balances" that she naturally can't talk about.
19. Implying that she can't actually shoot me, so town must lynch me instead.
20. And more bullshit backing out of the rolecop claim to a role that is just a slightly underpowered rolecop.

21. More claims that I haven't made cases.

22. Bullshit flavor gaming about a role that already flipped.
23. Yet another claim that I haven't given reads.

24. Claiming that lying and giving false information are different things.

25. Flavor gaming = logic.
26. Implying that I am scum for knowing Kalas was a Godfather when Lexi just gave everyone that information.

27. More bullshit flavor game and obscure stuff that might be role related but is probably just what she claims to feel in her gut.
28. Yet another accusation that I haven't done anything.

29. Claim number 9000 that I don't make cases.

30. Wait, no, there's another one. Yep, fonti definitely doesn't make cases. Lyrium's said it 20 times now so it must be true.
31. Claiming that a third party would be more of a threat to the scum team than to the town. Which. No.
32. Calling all my attacks on Rubicon as someone not town invalid because he turned out to be ... wait for it ... not town.

33. Picking a random post that isn't detailed and claiming it is representative of all my posts.
34. Attacking me for outing Citrus and killing Rubicon because they were individual scum instead of being part of a scum team.

35. Again, claiming that Citrus and Rubicon were town when they were on their own teams. I actually have a 3-1 rate of finding scum, with the exception being Titus, who Lyrium claims to think is scum that flipped town.
36. Implying that I haven't made detailed cases against Sloth. Considering that I just quoted said cases, this implies that she never bother to read my longer post containing my cases.

 

Fonti -- Clarify something for me please

Earlier you posted a wall saying you don't do reasons.
This looks to be a wall where you have been giving reasons.

Can you explain this for me please? If I believe you then I'll vote park Sloth I just want to understand what you are doing because I don't get it.