font died overnight, she was a lowly pesantcitizen

 

Fuck. Still, nice to be vindicated.

No one vote. I'm pretty certain at this point that we have two scum floating around, and any vote could get us hammer-killed.

(Which, BTW, is a decent note for Sloth as scum, given he hasn't been around -> we didn't see a hammerkill and scum win yesterday.)

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I'm starting to reconsider Lyrium as scum. The generally emotion-packed stuff of yesterday sounded a lot like frustrated town, and the way there was no movement towards any other lynch possibilities yesterday also points towards it a little - you'd think a scum partner (unless it's Sloth) would have done *something* else.

Anyway, reconsidering in general here, we have 4 players, of which two are scum.
Lyrium
Snowyvon
Citrus
Sloth

A lot of meta-tells for me are pointing towards Sloth/Citrus here. Firstly, if we consider a town Lyrium, then Citrus' post(s) trying to get Sloth's attention tend to sound increasingly like a frustrated scumbuddy...I can see why he'd do it as town, but still.

 

ugh Fonti when are you going to stop messing with me?

Ok so I was wrong about Fonti but she was wrong about me so were even.

Citrus are.you scum?

Which mofo be killing all the ladies?

disregarding the hissy fit

I don't think I play this game wrongly, perhaps not optimally or analytically but my view is good cop bad cop with a extra of bad cop is always riveting entertainment.

anyway sloth didn't post and is.hitting a new record of.slothness

citrus has jumped on the radar

von what are your.reads bouncy

q has yet.to make.a.statement of particular note

hmmm

where's a lucky when you need one?

 

Although thinking about it, Snowy has been pretty lzay this game. Surfing along on the Fonti train, then about facing towards Lyrium the next day, as soon as it looked like it might be traction there.

And Citrus (if Lyrium is town) could have revoted Lyrium - with Fonti promising to hammer - at any time, winning the game for scum.


I think I'm trending towards Snowy/Sloth. It makes sense actually, the lazy players not needing to do anything as town tears itself apart.


Any comments Lyrium/Citrus?

 

oh nm q ninjaed me and that last part was contemplatory or thinkable.about

 

:lol:

I'm pretty sure I have the highest word/post count this game, man.

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So you're most suspicious of Citrus, so far?

 

ur inability.to aknowledge my avatar or gender and the fact that you ping on the.esp radar for some reason
..well then

also try reading more.carefully beyond the performance pieces ..for example I remarked not.on the size of posts or other factors where word or post count matter

I am.going to say if you are so easily offended this will be a cycle of some disturbance

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no im not most suspicious of citrus

I enjoy holding secrets in little lined pockets full of post

if sloth doesn't post he shouldn't have any night actions

von needs to find his thinking cap

citrus needs to suggest a plan

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ill be.back..need to re over game on a computer probably in the early morning

 

I know fonti is gonna bitch at me post-game for not listening to her about Lyrium but I'd lynch Citrus before her. Or Q.

Lyrium was pushed pretty hard in the CSA game and it got to the point where I started scumreading her, even though her posts screamed her usual towniness. I'm seeing that here.

Sloth probably isn't scum because he likes doing a good job and I don't think he'd just abandon a teammate? Since that's what happened to him in Werewolf.

Citrus is just quiet and Q is an Unknown and that's where my brain is at right now.

 

I honestly hadn't noticed your gender in the little stats, and a lot of people have relatively deceptive avatars. I think I've called everyone in this game both at some stage, so don't be offended.

I'm not offended, I just found it funny - yeah I get that there's more to it then that, but it still made me laugh. idk.
In general I think you may be reading more emotion into my posts then is there - the only time you've made me angry was EoD yesterday, but you keep commenting like it's way more then that, which trust me, it isn't.

Kay. I was just trying to what you were thinking, as it wasn't entirely clear, which seems purposeful.

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Oh and I'm getting a strong scummy vibe from Snowy with that last.

Sure I know I did a bit of a u-turn on Lyrium, but I think I explained it, whereas Snowy seems to be just immediately leaping off an unpopular vote - and claiming that he felt it all along. Suggests he wasn't very committed to the vote, but he was fine with it yesterday, despite similar lack of justification, and the same for Fonti day 1.

Yeah, I'm definitely feeling the lazy scum Sloth/Snowy here.

 

Yo. Ika poked.

Er...I actually thought the game had ended a while ago, around the time Lucky left. Don't ask me why, I just sorta did. Guess it didn't.

Anyway, who the fuck killed my BGFF Ter? It could only be someone seeking to frame me (i.e., not Q) or someone who took a look at things without the bias of reputation and meta and just choose the most dangerous target entirely on the merits of their threat to them (i.e., Q and only Q).

If it's the first, they really didn't do much with it, or even brought it up at all, so not too likely. Though it's possible they wanted to wait till I actually said something to start on me. Possible, I guess.

Which leaves Q, the one that's taking the filler game the most seriously and who would make the smart calls as Scum. Then again, he's also drawing too much attention to himself by doing the most analysis and long posts, when he could just hang back and let our laziness be our demise.
Unless he hadn't expected that and put his foot forward as a hard-worker, where suddenly being goofy would look suspicious.
Plus despite almost being the most active character, scum sure is leaving him alone/not encouraging mindlessness. Either he's hopelessly wrong, hence a good idea to keep him around and lead town stray, or he's one of them.

Let's find out.

VOTE LYRIUM

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Lolnope.

VOTE Q

btw, sorry I missed so much. Long few days.

 

Why would that frame you, Sloth?

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And yeah, I'm honestly suprised I'm still alive today as well, especially given that Fonti posted a bit less and (probably) had a better chance of getting lynched, given Lyrium's tunneling. Probably Fonti's just a better player, and maybe a mix of Fonti's late look-around for Lyrium scum partners got them nervous.

But you're argument against me is...odd, to say the least. You raise two possibilities for the kill, one which I don't fully understand and which you quickly dismiss (I would've thought the best to frame in this way would be *me* given Ter was voting me, but missing some history here) and miss what seems to be the most obvious one - killing off an easy lurker, one who hasn't given many tells and thus doesn't aid the town, but instead leaves them in the same situation as the day before, just two townies staring down at one another, with those left alive being the active ones fanning the flames of the town vs. town sideshow.

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And I would say that the idea that I'm only doing this because I started out like this is unashamedly reaching. Most of Day 1 was done by phone, and thus (I presume, haven't checked) it would be shorter then what I've been doing Day 2 and especially Day 3.


(Again, killing off TerRaine is a stupid call, with me as scum. Ter wasn't crusading at me, so I don't *need* him dead, but people are going to remember the vote of that end of day, not the reasoning behind it, so it raises suspicion on me. It might be a call I'd make as scum, but it wouldn't be a smart one.)


What do you think on Citrus/Snowyvon, Sloth? Especially Snowy.

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Oh and whilst I'm definitely taking this way too seriously, it's mostly that this is the first mafia fix I've had in almost a year, and RB is actually way more active on average. I'm excited, and I think it's showing

(And regardless of your intentions, hold off on the votes. This is almost certainly LyLo, and if you're town, we can't afford to have scum hammer this.)

 

Ter and I know each other extremely well IRL and can generally be considered to be the biggest threat to one another in a game that involves reading each other. (I.e. When ter was the only one to realize I was scum in WW, even if I managed to change her mind afterwards)

you seem too competent a player to kill on that criteria and if nothing else your partner would have been against it.

these are reasons NOT to kill a lurker, and to kill someone like Ter instead, so not sure what you're trying to say in response to me.

i work through mass speculating and looking at all angles. Reaching? A bit. Unlikely? No.

i think we've been over this?
Also, ters a GIRL.

snowy always plays this way. Say something good, snow, for that doesn't get you off the hook.

Citrus is possible, but if so, I'm massively disappointed in his lack of effort.

here's the thing. I gamble.

My vote has been on you for over 12 hours. If there's two scum, they would have certainly flash lynched you and won the game already - I don't even want to consider the level of stupidity not doing so would require.

So, two possibilities:
1: there's one scum.
2: you're scum.

Either way, I'm ok with my vote. Carry on.

 

I always say good things, Sloth. And I'm off the hook for being the towniest person this world has ever seen.

I'm afraid if I vote for Q, scum!Sloth's partner will swoop in for the win. But Sloth probably isn't scum so maybe it's okay?

Also I'm assuming Day ends 24 hours from 441.

 

day will be over in 48 hrs from 441

Q: sloth

not voting: everyone else

If you want to do a no-lynch you must specify that, doing a "vote no-one" does not mean "no-lynch"

 

Uhh, fine. I was hoping to hold this in reserve, but if I'm going to be a genuine lynch candidate, I'd better come out with it:

I am the town cop.

I scanned Fonti day 1, Lyrium day 2. Both town.

Firstly, to make sure there isn't any doubt, I'll explain my reasoning. I scanned Fonti day 1, and that may seem like a mistake (and it certainly is in retrospect, given day/night 2) given that I already had a town read on him, but at the time he was the number one candidate for the lynch. This meant a) there was not a chance he'd be nightkilled (at least that night... :/) and b) a town read on him was very valuable, as it would forestall him being lynched the next day (which at the time looked likely). If I had to do it again, I probably would have scanned him again.

Secondly, the Lyrium scan was obviously the right move, again given lynch-likeliness, and zero chance of being nightkilled, as well as my personal scum read on her.

Hopefully I am believed, and don't need to prove this, but I think it should be readily apparent from my behavior at the start of day 2 and today. I didn't want to leave too obvious hints - because, of course, the scum might pick up on them - but a re-read should show that Fonti goes from being a town-read to being almost certain town in my books, as shown by the way I dismiss him as even a possibility of scum and color him green in my vote-analysis. U-turn on Lyrium is, of course, much more obvious.


Why to reveal now? Simple, the way Sloth is pushing me today makes me think I have been selected as the final push (Snowy's post makes me think he's the partner, but not as certain on that) and even a single town vote could get me hammered. Hopefully this stops that, although we may well see a counterclaim here.


So my scans leave it as being two of Snowy, Sloth, and Citrus. The meta tells from no hammer yesterday point towards Sloth, as do the manner of his recent post, and the fact that his vote for me has yet to see any hammering. i'm 90% certain on this one.
Snowy's buddying in his most recent post, and the attitude I'm seeing between the two of them make me think that he's the partner, as well as what I said earlier about lazy scum.

Anyways, I'm certain enough that I'm willing to stake the game on Vote: Sloth. When I die tonight, Lyrium gets the harder job of deciding between his two scumbuddies

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Ika, did you mean 24 or 48 hours from 441

 

Neat. Hopefully Q actually is the Cop and not a slowroller.

If he's telling the truth, then that makes this super easy. One or both scum are in Citrus/Sloth. Whee.

I'll vote later so people can say things.

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also no counterclaim here

 

Right. Not sure I believe the claim but the clear on lyrium makes it weight heavily on the truth side. Then again, as scum at this point you only need to convince us for one more day, so your claim on lyrium would only be to look solid. Hm.

Eh, still leaning towards you scum. And...thinking citrus is more likely than snow as partner? If so, disappointing citrus.
Just in case UNVOTE.
VOTE CITRUS.

 

It's like you're trying to make me certain it's you/Snowy. If I'm not scum, then do you still have Citrus as strongest? And who would be his partner?

 

48 hrs snow also after this im going to take a break to give a chance for someone else to mod

 

...this is a stupid question. o.o
There's five players left: Snow, Citrus, Lyrium, you, me.

If you're not Scum, in this idea where I'm figuring out who is, then Lyriums on the clear. By that logic, you tell me who's scum.

Also, tell me why bother to ask this, thanks.