We're several literal days away from D1 end and ending days early is a scummy sort of thing.....also good job giving hints on what one shouldn't do if scum

Half a bottle of wine deep ^-^ I'll refrain from responding in gifs.

 

@Rubicon: Read wall is a bit strong a term, maybe read pebble? Or just reads. I like that last one.

Just checking, you're not asking for a no lynch, yes?

If not we have what? 48 hours or something? We need another target. If you want another target, push for one. Activity levels at days end can be downright terrible.

And no, the irony of talking about activity levels does not escape me.

I have my own reasons for Atum. Short version begins at 222. I'd rather save specifics for day two, if only for practical reasons.

Anyway, I'm stupidly tired. So quick things:

He's discouraged. That is all I'm getting from it. He could be discouraged scum, or he could be discouraged because he apparently has a habit of getting lynched. Silence doesn't make him a lamb.

I'd like to see Quanksor reply to Rubicon. I want to see some pressure from him in some direction.


Mathblade, to start, if Sloth ends up being replaced or doesn't show, who would you ideally like to see lynched?

 

Llo.

UNVOTE
Sigh.

Anyway, this first:
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I’m. Busy.

Get over it. Or have me modkilled.
Those are your options.

This isn’t a threat: I perfectly understand if you feel the need to modkillme, and won’t be mad and accept it as fair. If not, though, you lose any right to bitch about it.

Meanwhile, I’ll play the way my time allows me to play. Do not bring this up again.

(I'll also point out that the days are weeks-long, guys. There's no hurry. I specifically entered this game cause I felt that could work with my schedule.)

Regarding the Quanksor thing, that’s a trap question, though not sure you intended it as such – the bit about the Riddler has been done to death (yep, I bring it up too, but he was clearly paying more attention to the game than me)

Plus there’s this:

Which Ter brought up. Didn’t see the need to repeat it.

The reason this question is a trap is because the only real answer I can give has already been given, and therefore it looks like I’m just parroting.

As it is, right now I’m leaving him up in the air and watching other players anyway.

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@Lyrium: ...What is the matter with you?

Sure, go ahead.

Not relevant. Don't start saying something and then spend literally the next sentence contradicting yourself. Though if you want to talk about her skills and the flaws in it afterwards, we can.

It doesn’t, but you were the one that tried to use a past game as evidence. Also this whole thing was, by your own claims, not relevant.

…That’s great? Also irrelevant, especially since you’re just gonna poke that and then do nothing to explain why.

I see you haven’t pressed him since. Isn’t a new-scum (and Snow hasn’t been scum in a forum game before, I believe) tell to act different on the start before settling back to their old routine? Do you not see how this could be the case?

So placeholders upon pressure. Kay.

I did what now? Snowvon’s been null all game for me.
Their interactions haven’t really jumped out at me too much, rather than their back and forth regarding the issues with you, and then Snow’s sort of petered out in posts due to his finals.
If anything, Snow hasn’t really engaged Ter in a specially significant way.
What do you see?

No.

When the hell HAS it happened outside of YOU doing it? When are you going to learn to just drop it? It’s no longer an excuse, kid.
I’m getting tired of having these arguments with you EVERY GAME.

Apologies are meaningless unless you actually do something to change your bad habit.

Hey, look who’s a blunt asshole? Is it me? It’s always me.

Opinions change over 100+ posts, shockingly enough. Are you going to keep passively-aggressively hinting that it’s solely because of your little tiff or are you actually going to ask about it?

‘Cause I know what the Town you would be doing.

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Wait, are you saying that you asked in your QT about a player’s abilities which were not outlined in the opening posts…and they answered you?

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So you basically backtrack on a previous statement when asked to back it up and saying “oh I guess what I saw there wasn’t there, he’s scummy.”
And…I know people are mentioning how that’s weird but I don’t see anyone actually pressuring him on it.
Right now for this alone you’re almost the highest scum read.

So who pointed out Fluff’s flightiness yet didn’t pressure him on it?

Snow (who did vote and then switched over), Zenzao, and Ter.

It’s weird that only no one else has really pursued it (aside from Atum, who actually voted for him, maybe as a last-second save, but probably not) but even weirder that these three mentioned it and didn’t do much about it. If fluff’s scum, partner’s between the 3.

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I get swamped by RL and disappear for days at a time, showing up to do with usual walls when possible. There’s a method to my madness.

Relevant to the game. I like this post way more than I like anything else by you.

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Heh. That’s cute.
Ok then. Point me to a single instance where Lyrium displayed any analytical skill that would be ranked as anything more than ‘passably mediocre.’
Use this to justify singling her out in your post as someone to reasonably be fearful against.
You may use any of the games she played in DLP.
You have the rest of D1 (almost 2 days or so.)

I’m surprised you didn’t manage to shove a fourth or fifth ‘you’re skimming’ shot in there. There’s a difference between it, and pressuring you in your wording.
For example, in that quoted post, you were saying that the quiet ones were the scummiest to you. Which doesn’t make sense at all.
Also, you need to pay more attention to this subthread, man. Everyone knows how busy I am and why.

Don’t leave me hangin’, brah.

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Hm. Oh good, something to keep in mind.

I’m sorry, are you saying I shouldn’t press my town reads for some reason?

Aw, Snowie.
Von> <Me

Get jazzy on it.

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Oh my sweet summer child. That’s adorable.

SHE, god damn it, man. S-H-E.

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Hey Rubi, how come none of your posts so far have relevant comments and rather are instead filled with vacant, blanket questions with no possible information to be gained?
I mean you goof around, but you can always sorta trail the reasoning you’re going for in most games. In here you’re just being completely deflective.

And about those reads you promised?

Give me a case on someone. Anyone. Dealer’s choice.

If you do, I’ll show you a move. Yeah.
(also join our facebook goup)

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If I wasn’t Sloth right now, I’d say I was definitely scum with you. Are you serious?

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Anyway, I'm trying to see who to vote for now.

I'll be around the rest of the night, so ask away, people.
Also, Ter will poke me into posting more regularly know, I'll see what happens.

(Full disclosure, I was considering switching out.)

...Am I the only one that sees why lynching Quack today is a bad idea?

 

Share with the class



^-^

 

I've been scum a couple times, Sloth.

And I'm saying why pressure town over scum? Just why?

 

Because if anything, I should pressure my strongest townreads the most. I dont need to pressure my scum reads as much. If I'm wrong about them, it's up to them to show me so.
But if a scum has slipped into my scumread, I have to always be sure.

...Anyone else aside from currently the whitest white girl in america? /gives Ter an Iced Pumpkin Spice Latte

 

That's not something I remember you ever doing.

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After a certain point, pressuring townreads becomes kind of redundant.

 

Sloth, I'm mentally comparing these walls with your posts when you came back from a disappearance in CYS. You are found wanting.

 

Read my games again, then. I always ask questions of my townreads.

I am doing it stronger now, but that's after Maiden and Ter taught me I should. The ladies in my life give very strong lessons.
So what up, Snow? How are the finals?

 

Okay. I may not fail everything completely.

How's the scumteam doing?

 

It's D1, and I've only had 3 posts. And the post you're referring to was back in the 200s.
That point hasn't been reached.

That's not what your mother said last night!
No, but, elaborate. I'm tired and don't feel like the run-around.

 

Adorable!

Now answer the god damned question

 

I would like to know why we shouldn't lynch Quank.

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Is it because he's your scum mate?

 

Sigh. Fine, not like it hasn't been brought up anyway.

Quank: Are you Nightwing?

At this point, he's either Nightwing or Scum. I won't say which is more likely.
By his own admission, Nightwing's a largely useless role, so it's a low-risk sacrifice.

So if he is, he should claim now.
Unless someone gets lynched and flips Nightwing (and no one should counterclaim), the only way he's dying is by the Riddler, who'd have no reason not to kill him. ('Cept screw with Town, but that'd be stupid of the Riddler, since he gains nothing by it.)

And if he isn't Nightwing, yeah let's lynch him.

 

If thought he might be Nightwing, why didn't you just ask him to roleclaim instead of telling him what his safest claim is?

 

....Fluff. Think. Things Through. Before you ask questions.

Try to come up with an answer on your own.

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Going to sleep in ~30.

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G'night. Will try to check back in the morning.

 

Are you two both scum? This may sound like a jab, but it's a serious question. You both sound like you're posturing about each other.

Sloth, I think the primary difference from CYS is that you were much more proactive and clearly trying to identify the most important points and shift the conversation in a productive direction, when you were around to post. I do not get that impression here.

Let's talk about you and the Lyrium/TerRaine thing. Are you taking sides in that argument? Do you think TerRaine is definitely town? Do you think Lyrium is scum, and if so, why have you not voted her? What do you think about how it got (more or less) resolved a few pages ago? Still worth focusing on?

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Just missed you, but feel free to respond whenever.

I'm starting to think I should just sheep Snow's reads...

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Oh, and as for why I'm only making irrelevant comments and posting useless questions, it's because I'm scum. Don't tell anyone. Trying to fake my town meta is fucking hard.

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Ugh, DLP deleted a paragraph from the start of this:

What I get from #463 is that you think Lyrium, Snow, Riley and fluffy are the players most worth focusing on right now. Which doesn't fit my own understanding of the game state.

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Atum, what exactly made you decide you didn't want to lynch Fishy anytime soon?

 

Alrighty, I'm going to catch up a bit tonight and then do the rest sometime thursday. I know from experience I can't exactly sit down and read a whole thread without my brain going to mush. So once I start feeling that way I'll stop and note exactly where I am.

Going to ask some dumb questions so bear with me.

Snowvon = Grib ?? Because if so we have experience in playing with each other even if it was a few games, (I think two). This knowledge will help me in the long run, but if you don't want to answer it, that's fine.

Quanksor feels odd for [post=12]12[/post]. It just feels off gut wise, like it's an awkward post.

1. Wouldn't know.
2. Dark Knight rises, I'm biased though because I haven't seen the other movies from the trilogy, but that will change as my coworker is gonna let me borrow his movies so I can watch them.
3. I'm not entirely sure yet. I need to actually think in regards to this question to see if it can be game breakable for town somehow.
4. Booster Gold is probably an iffy choice for town to have as a power as it can be misleading depending on the hands it gets into, but that's not really what you asked.

It makes the game swingy, but I do have to say from experience no reveal is not a pretty sight for town and also the version of godfather in Penguin's role is pretty bad for the town also. (So yeah Croc and Penguin are my choices, but that's because of experience with both said roles/type modifications on ms)
5. DLP no, mafiascum yes and another site also.

I'm not really sure I'm liking the idea of a massclaim. I just am always anti-against massclaim early in games unless i can figure out how to gamebreak and make a massclaim work for town. I also don't know any of you besides Mathblade and maybe snow so I would be against massclaim no matter what.

I like Kento's [post=36]36[/post]. His answer to the questions hit the spot so to say.

Aaaand I didn't like the post following by Riley, I'm sure that it was mostly trolling, but neverless didn't sit well with me.

Page 3 explains the sandman, so makes me feel a bit better about him. I can see him confusing Clayface and Sandman.

Site meta: How normal is it for player to have QT's with mods outside of a mafia QT or a neighbor QT of some sort? Because Quanksor's post made me realllly uneasy.

Nor do I like [post=64]64[/post], but that's probably because I find zero reasons why questions that were asked to be beneficial. I can't really find the right words I want to describe how I feel about this post, but beneficial feels close to what I mean.

Citrus is town for [post=65]65[/post]. In fact I actually want to yell "townslip". So Citrus can sit in my town pile.~

Atum could potentially be town for [post=88]88[/post], but I do want my question answered before I jump to that conclusion lol.

(However, judging by the mods phrasing that QT's might be in this game by default via role. I guess just the sites are different in that aspect so this lessens the scum read I had on Quanskor for his comment. :\)

TerRaine is bothering me though due to the defensiveness of the posts.

qqqqqq's vote on fishy bothers me because I feel like he's trying to stay out of the limelight and go after lurkers which is a softer cushion that say some of the other people posting.

Rubi is another namee that's familiar!

Okay I laughed much more than I should have at Quanksor's post [post=185]185[/post]. I mean I totally hate Day 1, but how would designing a game to start in N1 accomplish anything because D2 would essentially be D1 besides the fact some roles going off and a night kill. D1 is town's advantage depending on how it's used and starting in Night is a scum advantage. >.>

Anyways, I'm going to stop at the bottom of Page 10. I'm going to hold off my vote until I'm fully caught up though.

 

Yes, Mala, I am a Grib. It's been a while.

Okay, I'm sorry, but I hate this. So much. Not like legitimate IRL hate, but in-game, wow I want you lynched hate.

Citrus didn’t even attack you for RL stuff. He criticized you for not pressuring your scumreads, and for sheeping TerRaine’s opinions. He also points out how your play is different. There wasn’t anything that warranted you snapping at him and threatening a modkill on yourself. What the hell? And yes, that was a threat. Saying it isn’t is like saying “No offense, but…” and then saying something offensive.

Sloth, for the love of Gotham, pressure a scumread until they wet themselves, and stop bitching at Lyrium when she's obvious town. Like, half of your last wall was directed at Lyrium and what did it even accomplish? Wait, let me just summarize your wall really quickly:

- randomly bitching at Citrus
- long, drawn out bitching at Lyrium. Like, is she scum or what, dude? (The answer is no.) Playstyle shit can be discussed postgame, what are you trying to get from her right now that will help town win?
- one (1) question at Quanksor, guess Sloth doesn't have anything else to say to his scumread who is probably going to get lynched soon
- complains about lack of pressure on fluffy and immediately deduces that the people who did but let it go are scum
- useless responses to Atum
- stuff at Riley
- fluffing at me (<3)
- stuff at Rubicon
- sits around and waiting for questions <= wow that definitely isn't something scum do to try and look town

Yeah, I'm still not seeing anything resembling scumhunting from you, which is setting off flags and fireworks and imaginary lynchmobs in my head.

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Like, it has nothing to do with you being busy and not being here. It's that when you do post, I don't see them coming from town.

 

^ Yeah, that's pretty much what I was trying to say about Sloth.

He's focusing on the wrong things.


Hi Mala. Have we played together before? I know I modded an open game that you were in a while back.


Quanksor, for the love of god, do something if you're town! We're not asking you to do something complex, just actually come in here and have a fucking conversation with us so we can see you're sincere and move on??

Is responding to people hard? Do you think it makes sense to complain about getting mislynched all the time when you literally ignore everyone who tries to draw you out and get you to talk about the game?

I'm honestly getting frustrated with you.

If you're lurking because of something role related like people keep implying, stop. Your role isn't going to do shit if you get lynched or forced to claim.

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Actually, here Quanksor:

Unvote

Will this get you to talk to me?