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Discussion in 'Little Italy' started by Koalas, Nov 26, 2014.

  1. Sloth

    Sloth Professor DLP Supporter

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    Why is Riley in this list, when you get a minute.
     
  2. Vaimes

    Vaimes Fifth Year

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    last post @ Q
     
  3. Sloth

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    Lovely.
    Play the game, Rubicon. address what I'm saying. Now.

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    Elaborate.
     
  4. TerRaine

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  5. Sloth

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    Oh btw, something I forgot to add in my previous post: I'm willing to grant that you'd want to spice up your Town-game a bit - which is why I didn't bring this up.

    Rubicon did. I was replying to him.

    'Cause see, it is possible you're trying to be adorable aggressive (awwww, Snowie, you're trying to emulate your hero, Sloth!), but it's a big turn from your DLP game and it should either be met with cautious indifference (me), or with outright suspicion (NOT Rubicon).

    Rubicon, who keeps bringing up my different attitude, instead uses this 180 on Snow as a reason to say he's Town.
    He's protecting him.

    That's why I listed him as scum with Snow.

    Anyway, patient time, brb.
     
  6. Quiddity

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    How so? I agreed quite a bit with '448 - Atum puts more emotion behind it then I do, but Quank's attitude under pressure gave me pause for a long while.
     
  7. Vaimes

    Vaimes Fifth Year

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    Sloth, Rubicon has played with my more aggressive persona before. He knows town!me when he sees it.
     
  8. TerRaine

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    ......interesting ^-^

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    To elaborate.

    Quank's reaction to ME? Should do the exact opposite of giving you pause.

    It's so anti town it HURTS.

    it's not that he's not being defensive...he's just as Atum said...blank.

    Which is a good way to keep us from tracking down who he's connect with if he flips scum.

    When you're town and are heading for a mislynch....you don't lie back and think of England. The game doesn't end for town after a mislynch. Town can still win after. So even if you have NO way of escape from a lynch you try and get as much info out as you can and you point out your suspicions so we will have something to go on in the Days that follow along with your flips.

    I think it's weird you both don't see his reaction as anti town
     
  9. Quiddity

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    Like I said, I found Sloth's reaction under pressure much more pro-town - attempting to give reads, scumhunting hard and so on (what I call focusing on the legacy) - and certainly I didn't find Quanksor's reaction pro-town. However, I still found Quanksor's attitude and response suprising, as it wasn't what I expected. From new players I generally find they either clam up or respond violently, and thus what Quanksor did gave me pause for a while, where I asked what experience he had/how he normally reacted. From what we heard about him being a regular Day 1-lynchee, I found myself not being overly suprised, as I could envisage it being a simple response to such a trend - a quiet acceptance of the inevitable that he doesn't feel the need to respond in any real way, just keeping on truckin'.

    It was only upon rereading, when I saw that his play that I found suspicious had in fact been sustained throughout, that I decided that it wasn't something to deter.

    To be clear - his behaviour under pressure was most assuredly anti-town. But it was also weird enough to give me pause to try and understand - because town, especially inexperienced town, often behave weirdly under pressure.
     
  10. MathBlade

    MathBlade First Year

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    ....I am facepalming so hard.

    I will check the thread later tonight. How Sloth townfirms me and scumfirms himself and people are still arguing he is town.
     
  11. TerRaine

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    Honestly math because he's not that stupid.
     
  12. Quiddity

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    Riley: Somewhat/slightly scummy. Honestly, a weaker read then Quanksor here, but I just get a quite scummy vibe from rereading his early posts, when viewed together. I don't know him from previous rounds, to be sure, but his attitude has seemed quite weird, and his focus on quiet players early on struck some tells bells in reread - it was not a focus on getting them to post, it was an inherent belief that quiet=scum (especially with his "Most of my D1 lists will be based on posting numbers.") and then his follow-up to Aekiel again seemed very much a case of going for easy targets without much justification. The ensuring conceptual discussion I don't think gave many reads, but the way he started asking questions after that didn't feel like a continuation from earlier or in response to anything posted in the thread, but more like he was getting yelled at in a QT. Also in general, the passivity of his posts up to this point and how they promised to correct the next day felt like they were setting up for a lack of contribution/lurking for the immediate future.
    That being said, his more recent posts and my memory of his play is significantly more favorable, so maybe I'm overreacting to something I only noticed on reread - I'd need to do the whole thing to be sure either way. Still, I think overall its still scummy, especially as I expect my reread of his later posts will likely have some similar trends which I missed earlier.

    Snowvon: God, I cannot read Snowy to save my own life. Probably because his playstyle is so anathema to my own, and I don't have sufficient experience with him in other games. Fluff, to me, is always something to be viewed with slight suspicion, and thus Snowy's style of casually interweaving it into everything/replying with short posts largely dominated by the flavor is something I just don't really know how to react to. I think I'd put him at a strong null-read, push to ever-so-slightly scummy in a push, but that's not a read I put much strength into, as I simply don't know how to deal with him. Oh and the strong/certain reads he comes out with always come at me from left-field (such as the early certainty as to town!Lyrium

    Aekiel replaced by Malakittens: I had a quite town read on Aekiel, so I'm unhappy to lose that, but I don't have any opinion on kittens yet (I honestly don't recall a single post...). Nullest of the null.

    Citrus: Null read, perhaps slightly town for it. Idk, I'm just not getting a read on him this game - well that's not true. Rather, I sway back and forward on him, but its more from town to null then anything else - his posts are normally quite useful and I find myself agreeing with him most of the time. Then again, the same happened in the filler game, so not putting too much weight on it, and mayhaps I'm over-compensating in going to suspect him. So yeah, null.

    Lyrium: I think I may just have mentioned this before? ;) Yeah, Lyrium's my top scum candidate atm, although Sloth might have a point about him being a better Riddler, but that'll have to wait for the reread I do of him during the night phase. I'd rather push Lyrium, but I won't be because it seems most people read him as strong town and I'm unlikely to get a result this late. If I'm wrong there, though, feel free to say so.
    Sloth: For obvious reasons, I've been paying paticular attention to Sloth's posts of late, and honestly, I just like what I see. Despite being in a very precarious position, Sloth seems to be holding it together very well and still trying to scumhunt - and not just on his obvious competition, either, but on everyone. Now certainly, this is something you want to do as scum as well, but I find it town as in I feel the scumhunting and the desire to almost give back what he can before the end is not being put on but seems very genuine and his attempt to be useful to the town. His original Riddler/massclaim post was a bit stupid/ill-thought-out, but I didn't find it paticularly scummy - an annoying continuation of a meta-discussion which has thankfully faded away, and a very ill-advised contribution as well, but not one that screamed scum. His contribution pre-absence was a lot of stuff that I found useful/scumhunty, and when he returned, that setup continued. Honestly, rereading his posts I don't find anything that would make me jump out and vote for him - his concept of pressuring town-reads feels weird to me, but is internally-consistent and not scummy in and of itself, and honestly from his posts I'd disagree that this is what is going on - maybe he doesn't call it that, but he certainly seems to be scumhunting and pressuring his scum plentiful. Idk, like I said, my gut read is town, my read of his posts doesn't disagree, and I find myself agreeing with much of what he says. I don't see a scum here.
    ...fuck this is me writing my own deathwish if he is scum, isn't it? :lol: Still, that's my read and I'm sticking with it.

    TerRaine: Very town. Getting sick of spilling the virtual ink, no-one disagrees with this do they? Cause I can elaborate but I cbf'd.

    Rubicon: Quite scummy. Rubicon to me reads like a very competent player working scum very well - I wouldn't be surprised if he's running the scum team actually - but I think some of his play has been quite suspect.
    There's more, but I really do need to go now. I'll quickly point out that he neer really responded t a questipon anbout his reads fromt he early game, and that his method of unvoting Quanksor and subsequent focus ofn Sloth (can't remember if he's voted him yet) seems suspicious despite being focussed on Quank for quite a whioel. Moreover, he seems to be avoiding posting his general reads - leaving aside the coldtease/bait of 240(or thereabouts) - he's consistently avoided giving a full examination of his scumreads/thoughts on players, despite being quite active. This makes it easier for him to do what he did to Sloth - a turnaround of suspicion when none was previously shown, somehting I fiund quite suspicious. OTOH his coaching of Quanksor/attempts to get useful information out of people have seemed generallly towny, but is still think his avoidance of giving reads and some odd playe alongside in the last few pages are enough to make him on that list.
    OTOOH, Quanksor's vote for him is quite weird, especially in how it appears out of nowhere when he'd previously been defending badly/not scumhunting/no reasoning.
    Fuck, that looks horrible. Sorry guys, but I left this till lasyt and I needed to rush to get them all out together.

    House: No read.

    Atum: Quite Town. Could someone give a reason for his scumminess, for the love of the lord? All this hush-hushing y'all have been doing is getting annoying.

    His fluffiness: Null to slightly scummy. God, I'm hungry and sick of typing, and I doubt this has any relevance to the coming lynch so I'll explain later/Day 2.

    Quanksor: Somewhat scummy. Honestly, I think this has been covered enough as to the details, so I'll just put what changed my mind, which was a closer examination of the early game, where he doesn't seem to be trying to shift or anything to break the apparent trend of him being lynched day one. I had previously thought that his later play was a simple mix of despair/acceptance over regularly being lynched and that was why he wasn't being active in responding to the pressure, but a look at his earlier play shows that this was in fact pretty well sustained throughout.

    Mathblade: Slightly town. Saying good stuff and with no obvious stinkers, but mixed in with a slightly distracting amount of fluff which doesn't always feel entirely justified/realistic - as in it feels slightly artificial/put on, as if he isn't actually taking it as not-seriously as it seems. YMMV

    Zenzao: Quite town. His posts I've found useful and helpful, that right mix that I can never hit between being too brief and distracting in their length, with nothing smelling scummy hitting me out of the mix.

    Fishy Justice: Was he replaced? Definite nullread either way.

    Kento Kraitos: Replaced. Null read before that, haven't had chance to evaluate replacement.

    BTW Mathblade, I don't get how my claiming thing fails. I reread it, and I stand by it, tbh, and think its the right move to make. I'm not doing it in ignorance of the Riddler/proposing a massclaim, but acknowledging it and still thinking its worthwhile.
    Mayhaps it's different if you're more sold on the lynches we have, but for me, Quanksor isn't one I think is massively probable to be scum (he's a scum-read, but sure as hell not my first choice), and I think Sloth is town, so I'd rather go a safer route that has better chance of catching scum. But maybe if one is certain on the lynchee then you wouldn't want to chance losing someone else in the process.
     
  13. Quanksor

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    Mathblade is female.
     
  14. Sloth

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    Have you played any other forum games outside of DLP with Rubicon then?

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    Hm. To be fair, he's approached the entire game with a strange attitude.

    The fact that he raises his defense of me right as I'm about to get lynched does make me suspicious, however. As if ready to ride the 'I was right to defend Sloth, I'm clearly town' wagon till the end of the earth, now that Q's started it (who may be doing the same thing, but gave lengthy reasoning for it).

    I'm interested, but he still hasn't claimed. I guess he doesn't need to now.

    ...Classy, beautiful. XD

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    #573
    Seriously, Math - please don't ignore responses, I don't have the energy to also deal with your tard-train right now. Stop clamming up and just read, ok?
     
  15. Quiddity

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    Vote:Quanksor

    I don't understand either P590 or '591 BTW.

    Sorry Mathblade or anyone else I've inevitably offended.
     
  16. Vaimes

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    Yes.

    /ten
     
  17. Lyrium

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    Wait, wait , wait guys. Remember that super awesome game that Snow referenced in post #543? Remember how Sloth hounded me to answer questions. Like does he here remind anyone of him there?

    Snow <3

    Sloth, I am a adult. I promise on that constellation they named after Sirius Black, the greatest tragic figure who fell through a mysterious veil and totally should have like come back with a superpowers. However, I still appreciate juice boxes ..MathBlade did you steal the juisce box to prevent me from being poisoned and is the glass empty or ?

    I numbered the questions because Sloth were so rude not to do so:

    1) I’ve played in a couple of games with Snow. I think that he can be decent as scum as Grib and on IRC. I feel like here he’ll be caught. Like I have won as scum\sk on Town of Salem because its so quick but in this kind of long drawn out gun fight at the ok corral…we’ll find out. I’ll ask him to pinky promise that he isn’t scum and ill believe whatever he says.
    2) I thought that Snow’s comment about (rough translation as I can’t be effed to go back to a million pages ago) to TerRaine something like “Its amazing we haven’t all assimilated into the scum team” was a little odd. It stood out amongst the fluff I know.
    3) There’s nothing to indicate why I went down the scum reads. No case, no evidence, no analysis. I mean some players can do vibe based rainbows but you aren’t allowed because your vibes are evil and possessed. I don’t know if it has to do with my thing with Ter. I think it has to do with you. WHERE IS THE EVIDENCE OF MY SCUM TELLS? Oh wait you have none. BSer.
    4) The Riddler. Well I don’t know. I mean how would I know? I think the RIddler would either A) be super quiet and try to coast till the end if they weren’t Fonti or idk a !Super player or B) If they were good at roles stuff then they would ask a lot of questions about roles and mechanics and mindsets.
    5) The biggest priority is scum. Its always scum. Did you not read my last post in which I stated why? Riddler can kill scum while scum wants to burn our city to the ground and raze it and steal all the pretty things.
    6) Catered to? Not really. I don’t trust you. Last time you pressured me to answer questions you guessed my role and NKed me as CUM. Kind of why I’m going to vote your today..tee hee.

    I also don’t know where the old man gif is from but okay… Or have you guessed my role yet Bad Man?

    Atum, re: Nightwing. I mean I guess the name is cool but the glance on Wiki makes it seem like a knock off like some of the others? Like at first I thought, “Nightcrawler!” cool its a mashup but no.

    Welcome to the game House. Yay. Embody yourself. Also, I only saw like a few episodes but I loved Cuddy like serious crush on her. She was cool.

    Also, I think we had a discussion in another game about not killing people new to the site on their first day. How do we feel about that? I mean I feel like I learned that its bad to kill newbies and I don’t want to kill Quanksor. Like day 2 grill him into a cheese sandwich until he either breaks or is lynched but today give peace a chance.

    Awww. Nemrut you flakey chicken bakey thing… just when we were thinking about you and your colors.

    House, what do you think about Nemrut’s play and the accusations against him for being scummy?

    Malakitten, same for you regarding Aekiel’ slot?

    Do replacements get a new QT or the predecessors?

    Oh damn there was another question I had and it slipped me in all the long posts.
    Umm…something something..I hope itll come back to me.


    Qgc or Quiggly – Actually I don’t think TerRaine is 100% town. I am just trying to trust the forest over the tree.

    I know people hate the No Lynch but I’ll always love you sad No Lynch policy. (Don’t listen to their whispers, its safe here).

    Rubicon, can you link to a scum game of yours that your proud of?

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    Oh wait I remember the question it has to do with Twilight.

    So everyone but the person who is lynched can talk in Twilight? Is that the official policy?


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    LIke it was kind of nice when the dead person could talk. Like their ghost. Like in the at game that fluffy helpefully linked to (and which I only skimmed because it was too logn and its boring to read other peoples games)...FOnti could talk as a ghost after she died.idk what the mechancis were but it was good.

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    Also MathBlade, I don't know because your generally hard to read and I have not scum meta for you.

    Kentos, seriously...its good that you have an avatar now. But speak up.

    And His fluffiness...you too.
     
  18. Fishy Justice

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    I am alive. I was at work later than I thought I'd be.

    Anyway, as it stands I am willing to lynch either Quanksor or Sloth. I believe Quanksor is scummier, and I'm not really sure what to make of Sloth. I am of the opinion that the death of either would provide a lot of information at this point.

    I'm going to go back and re-read things on a screen that isn't a phone in a place that isn't work. But I should be here for a while.
     
  19. Lyrium

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    I apologize for that atrocious level of grammar and misspellings, this is why I avoid phone post and also quick posts because all jumbled.

    Snowvon, do you pinky promise that you aren't scum?

    Can we have a vote count?

    I have no intention of hammering Sloth but I'd like to be on that train.

    Sloth are you the Riddler?

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    Oh and any last thoughts?

    Fishy Justice, you are also a mysteriousy flaky chicken baky thing...what are your thoughts and your reads and all of your vibes? Has anyone ever tried dolphin? :p

    What do you feel about Atum?

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    So Sloth doesn't think I'm scum but thinks Im the Riddler. WHy? And then why agree with Quiggly Piggly Wiggly's list except for RIley? Again lacking analyticalness that its known for among other things.

    It hurts to agree with MathBlade when I am unsure of her.
     
  20. Vaimes

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    Pinky promise. Up, down, and all around.