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Batmafia #2

Discussion in 'Little Italy' started by Koalas, Nov 26, 2014.

  1. TerRaine

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    At D1 start of this game I felt Lyrium twisted my words in a post regarding using caution on blindly believing someone claiming to be stalked by Bane.

    The word twisting was something I felt she also did while town in CYS. I was scum in CYS and I was able to argue out of it because it wasn't a strong enough play and she let it go there after.

    I pointed this out that it was a townylyrium move and she's been ragging on me and hypersensitive since

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    Also to add on. In each serious game I've played thus far in my mafia career I've been new to the role. In werewolf I was new town. In CYS I was new scum.

    I am now on my second time as town and I am more comfortable in my own skin and more confident in pointing out common plays I've seen from people in past games.
     
  2. Titus

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    Then why do you want Lyrium's death, considering it was a townie move? Wouldn't town be hypersensitive to someone just outright saying they suck? Hell, that's pretty much what Lyrium has just said in her past few posts.
     
  3. Lyrium

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    Titus,

    TerRaine's scum tells from CYS and from the filler game where she was SK:
    1. Acts like a townie and gives readwalls and very seemingly reasonable posts but with a few hiccups always. See #2
    2. Without strong reasons, claims someone is town.
    3. In CYS, half-heartedly defended Sloth from being mislynched but not really and then after his death made a big fuss especially over my being on his lynch wagon. See this game.
    4. She started off by casting my entire play in CYS as being luck\fluke and doubtcasted and then through my aggression went from broad strokes to one specific play. Which if I hadn't pushed it then that bs would have stood.
    5. Hammered Sloth, which on his part was anti-town to request, and her part anti-town to do if she...as she seems to be stating now..was so in favor of not lynching him.
    6. Actions don't coincide with words.
    7. Uses secret codes with scum (see: some of her posts with the codes and seeming crumbing)
    8. Uses a lot of gifs or other kinds of "filler" posts that don't contribute to content
    9. In this game, after having played CYS, continously baits me knowing full and well that I respond a certain way to play.
    10. Does that lovely girl thing that all bitches are capable of which is subtly demean someone but in a way that seems innocent. See gifs, etc. SO I think is actually baiting me and hoping to get some info on my role etc out of it.
    11. The reason I didn't like that early play was that it seemed to be then conceived as some charity, "Lyrium I'm just trying to help your play and so you become better" but either was intended to set me up for fail or protect herserlf against my picking up on something scummy which she might not be able to defend.

    I don't have enough meta on her town play but either she is scum or Rubicon's right and its a personality thing but where is the scum hunting of anyone but Lyrium? Like seriously?

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    Again, where is the scum hunting with such seriousness of anyone else? Particularly if you think I'm the Riddler...why isn't scum hunting a priority?

    There are four dangerous dangerous scum and one sk. Why the focus on the supposed Riddler?

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    I mean I love a bitch and I'll do the tussel thingy and then I will obey the Alpha B and be her like Beta or something but this isn't that, it's something else.
     
  4. TerRaine

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    Because that was very start of D1. 1000+ posts in change a read on a player. I have an entire post pointing out scummy or riddlery suspicions at the start of D2 against Lyrium. Would you like a direct link to it?

    Also did not outright say she sucked. As I've said a few times I pointed out there was ONE weak play in several weeks of game time. We all have them. No one is perfect.
     
  5. Kento Kraitos

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    I think it might be 1.

    I decided to match up the names from Sloth's last posts to the names that Lyrium brought up to see if there was any overlap between Sloth and Fishy Justice and there was none. If Fishy Justice was the target then I can only really see it as a null kill.
     
  6. TerRaine

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    Dial it the fuck back Now.
     
  7. Lyrium

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    So I once again return to my point of there are four scum and one sk. Five villains in total with Penguin\Bane, Crocodile, Clay Face, and Killer Croc - all of whom are OPed in comparison to town (like town abilities are much weaker and more passive and well passive like Batman can't even Execute his suspect which is something TOS allows).

    Why the obsession with The Riddler over what seems to me the more dangerous scum?

    For example, unless The Riddler was Fonti or maybe you TItus I would think of them as day 3 and onwards priority with Day 1-2 being scum scum scum.
     
  8. Lyrium

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    Again if the suspicious is that I'm Riddler, why and why and why?

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    Like there's a huge difference between suspecting someone for being The Riddler and scum. I don't suspect her of being The Riddler. I don't even know how to suspect someone of being The Riddler other then when there is evidence such as The Riddler guessing someone and then we learn who they got and figure out from there why.
     
  9. Titus

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    @Lyrium,

    Can you give examples of 2, 6 (beyond the Sloth lynch), 7 and 8? Numbers are fine. I've never really seen TerRaine do filler before.

    I'm discounting 11 because that's a personality tell. I use it from time to time as any alignment.

    I'm also concerned about 7, because it implies scum don't have daychat and I'm not certain if they do or they don't. If scum have day chat, then why would Ter be crumbing to scum? Riddler or Two Face searching for Riddler? It's odd to blatantly crumb in this setup.


    @TerRaine,

    I would indeed like that link.
     
  10. TerRaine

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    I'll suppose this is directed at me because of the last paragraph.

    I'm not obsessed with any one particular scum faction. Read through my posts. I'm trying to crack what happened + get reads on all of you. That just seems like an accusation from nowhere just to cause drama.
     
  12. TerRaine

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  13. Lyrium

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    I actually don't know if scum have daychat, I think I asked like a few hundred posts ago but didn't receive a response:

    Mod Question: Do scum have day chat?

    Was there day chat in CYS?

    Ok for 6. states that I'm suspicious for not really caring about Sloth's reads and they must be followed\investigated (he said kill Lyrium, Rubicon, Snowvon and maybe fluffy) but then states that Rubicon is fine. Like, if you really felt that way then you would go and investigate all the players not the one you already have been screaming is The Riddler.

    2. See Rubicon. I <3 Rubicon and I so want to believe that he's town and wouldn't make any more promises but I'm putting him in "Null leaning town" for now. Also see puts me at town after that subtle doubtcast early on. Like you put me as town but also doubtcast me in the same thing.

    7. From my pov, her remarks on fish on the hook and then subtly threatning fluffy with the "there is a instruement made of dead cats" seemed off or code of some sort. Like not her usual thing.

    8. After I bring up that we shoud look at fishy's posts closely, starts again 1 vs. 1ing me with gifs and other distractions instead of even taking my "hey fishy just died lets see why"

    I hope your town TItus bc I think you know my role.
     
  14. Quiddity

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    Sorry, this'll probably come out with me looking very stupid, but I don't follow. Like, qt all.

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    Aww, that's so cute :')

    But no. Also, take to the OT please, my fault for posting here.
     
  15. Koalas

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    No comment on Daychat. Please try to keep role/faction questions in your QT's.
     
  16. Titus

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    @TerRaine, I'm thinking part of your Lyr is the riddler theory has a big hole in it. Namely the premise Lyr wanted a no lynch because it make the Riddler's wincon easier.

    A no lynch should make the riddler's wincon harder. The riddler must guess everyone's role correctly. The more eliminated roles, the easier the Riddler's job is.

    The lack of countering thing is also weaksauce.


    @Lyrium,

    Can you rephrase 2? I'm not following.

    6 is just terrible. Having a townread but saying everyone should be investigated is aok by me.

    Link to 7 please.

    8. Well why don't you prove TerRaine wrong and see if Sloth's posts yield anything?
     
  17. Quiddity

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    Oh and Titus, what do you find so tonwy about Quanksor's posts since you got here?

    Welcome to the game, btw :)

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    Ah, my mistake. I think there was a discussion about it right when I got here, and I must have taken away the wrong message.
     
  18. Titus

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    The recklessness to them as of now. Yeah, we'd want more but he doesn't really seemed to be concerned about his welfare.

    Ty.
     
  19. TerRaine

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    I've done it several times in the thread. Again. For someone so convinced I'm scum you're not reading my posts at all
     
  20. Quiddity

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    I'm not insisting that, but that is my impression.

    Who's your strongest scumread, just based on what you've read?