E.G. Responsive fluff is what Lyrium did with Hobbits. It was really not all that helpful and could be taken to mean anything but drives the thread along.

Versus:

Posting a picture of the Philadelphia Eagles losing to the Cowboys which I am watching on TV is unresponsive fluff.

Most of your fluff makes me think where as this game is is more of the variety.

 

Waaay behind again. Quickly at Mathblade could you explain why you thought my proposal yesterday was such a shitty idea?

Oh and not a newbie, but W/E.

 

I really think it is anti-town for me to do so. I can do so again if the thread agrees but I would really rather not explain because of that. I would have no problem explaining post game as well.

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And sorry for calling you a newb. Thought you were :$

 

Yeah, sorry, I don't see how what I've been posting can be put in the same category as posting a picture.

 

And I don't see how what you are doing is helpful and the fact you still aren't really putting up much of anything even when I'm pressuring you makes it look like you don't really care about the lynch or are just waiting to see who you can quietly drop a vote on.

 

@Qletters, what was your proposal from yesterday?

@Math, who are your scum teams then?

@Von, can you explain the colors in 1076?

 

@Titus

See 1050 -- The post you said had very little "content" even though it had reads on every player.

This is copied pasted because well no reason to reinvent the wheel:

[FONT=&quot][FONT=&quot][FONT=&quot][FONT=&quot][FONT=&quot][FONT=&quot][FONT=&quot][FONT=&quot][FONT=&quot][FONT=&quot][FONT=&quot]I think [FONT=&quot]the scum team is Snow, Quanksor, Mala, and Rubicon right now, with [FONT=&quot]one of Ril[FONT=&quot]ey/Titus as likely Riddler[/FONT][/FONT]. The ex[FONT=&quot]ception being if Quanksor isn't scum he's very likely [FONT=&quot]Ridd[FONT=&quot]ler, X-town Role, or Y-Town Role.[/FONT][/FONT][/FONT]

[/FONT][/FONT][/FONT][/FONT][/FONT][/FONT][/FONT][/FONT][/FONT][/FONT][/FONT][/FONT]
[FONT=&quot][FONT=&quot][FONT=&quot]963 looks like p[FONT=&quot]otential coaching of fluff so if wrong about Mala/Quanksor they'd be switched with [FONT=&quot]Ter[FONT=&quot]Raine and fluff.

[FONT=&quot]Too long didn't read Snowvon/[FONT=&quot]Quanksor/Mala/Rubicon
[FONT=&quot]Snowvon/[FONT=&quot]Rubicon/[FONT=&quot]Terraine[FONT=&quot]/hi[FONT=&quot]s f[FONT=&quot]luffiness[/FONT][/FONT][/FONT][/FONT][/FONT][/FONT]
[/FONT][/FONT][/FONT][/FONT][/FONT][/FONT][/FONT][/FONT]

 

@Mathblade, labels are not content. Formatting is not content. Your posts are simple and can be boiled down to, I don't like this player because I don't.

The post (1050) doesn't lend itself to scumteams like you suggested.

Why do you feel that your teams are the teams? Why is Snowvon overlapping in all of them? Your reads seem dependent on whether or not a player fits into your team much more so than actual player driven analysis. The players who appear to be town/Riddler generally are the players that are harder to lynch.

 

1) It is up to you to demonstrate that it is not content, not just handwave. It already had content you overlooked and didn't ask because you couldn't be bothered to read. Content is there in a readable fashion.

2) I don't care about who is HARD to lynch. I care about who is SCUM to lynch.

Snowvon is scum because of his unwillingness to poke or even post fluff to help move the thread along. His play is different than prior games AND Sloth who was lynched and has a decent read-dar mentioned him as a scum read. Sloth recommended that we investigate him which is what I'm doing.

The question is why aren't you pressuring Snowvon or trying to figure out alignment?

Instead you are annoying me by making up shit. *sigh*

 

I'm sorry, but I'm going to have to insist. I was fine with letting it stand, assuming it was something relatively obvious, but when another person (Sloth) made it abundantly clear they didn't understand where it was coming from, I don't think I can let it stand at that. Particularly as you're using it as part of the way of saying you see me as playing quite anti-town [if still town], I need to understand where you're coming from.

If it would heavily indicate your role, then that's a different matter, but if that's the case then you shouldn't be posting it in the thread at all. Otherwise, I'd like to know your reasoning.


Don't sweat it. I don't take offense, just felt the need to correct your assumption for what effect it has on your interpretation of play.

 

You happen to be pressuring me when I'm not in any position to go through the thread?? Or did you forget?

 

Truth, but that ignores his point. It would be suspicious if you had listed, say, Quanksor, Fishy Justice, Kento Kraitos, House/whoever as scum yesterday, as it would show a bit of avoiding confrontation/going for the easy targets.
I disagree that's what you're doing, though. I would say Snowyvon/Rubicon are not easy lynches to push, IMO. Nor TerRaine, or even much Fluffy.

Titus, why do you think he's only going after easy lynches/targets?


I'll quote my proposal yesterday in a moment, and give the context.

 

Wow, MathBlade, you are actually full of BS. And not even the good kind. I'm reading your recent posts and I'm actually baffled. You want me to pressure someone so badly, fine, we can do it your way. I'm really annoyed because I can't even tell if this is you being scummy or town!stubborn.

I'll get to you and Titus tomorrow.

 

At the time, IIRC, it was very very likely that Quanksor was going to be lynched - this was before, or during the setup of, the Sloth train, IIRC. Quanksor was responding to Sloth, who had asked him outright if he was nightwing (for some reason that never got explained). Mathblade jumped on my post, and said it was a horrible idea, but that it would be anti-town to explain.

 

Those posts set up three possibilities

1) Quanksor is not Nightwing and the Riddler did not check him because the Riddler sensed a gambit.
2) Quanksor is not Nightwing and the Riddler wasted a check falling for an orchestrated gambit that should not be explained.
3) Quanksor is Nightwing and the Riddler did not check out of an abundance of caution.

As for Mathblade, in general her list has a few who are hard to lynch on the surface but not really. Rubicon is compromise lurker. TerRaine and Lyrium can be counted on to vote each other. Von has posted less fluff (because IRL or personality or role dunno) but none of her reads seem to be hard to lynch. Her thoughts also lack originality.

 

@Snowvon -- No one said you had to post right away. I am just asking for meaningful posts and you to pressure who you think is scum.

@Q --

Let's assume two people are on the block.

Let's assume best case scenario two scum and no Croc interactions anything mischevious has happened to role info. This would mean a very likely scum lynch.

Scum 1 is close to lynch and claims a role. Since nothing mischevious happened, the town role is still out there. Either A) we still lynch the lying scum or B) People decide "whoa!" I don't want to lose role X!!!! Let's not lynch role X!! And flip on other scum wagon, who claims a 'powerful' role.

Claiming a role in a scenario like this only benefits scum or a town player who lies about their role to get out of a lynch.

Now let's look at the opposite situation:

Two people at risk of being lynched are town.
First player claims truthfully -- becomes Riddler bait and is not lynched.
Second player claims truthfully -- becomes Riddler bait and is not lynched.
Then the third player who is on the block doesn't claim and is lynched.
The Riddler can guess as many times as they like in a single round.
Even if one of the two townies lies the odds of both lying IMO are infinitesimal.
IMO anyone claiming pre-Lynch is giving the game to Riddler.

The only time I would support claiming is either through crumbs as I hope people have been clever enough to see or after the lynch but before reveal so people see and understand actions.

While townies out number scum Riddler can change that in a heartbeat.

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And FYI Q I am female presenting butch genderqueer. Please use female on the forums. Only a few special people can call me dude because they understand

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@Snowvon -- I am not scared of a 1v1 bring it on tomorrow. I am town and IMO you are not. If the only thing you can say is that I am full of BS which is BS bring it on dude.

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@Sis (Titus) WTF??

My thoughts got more originality than a Pride Parade in SF in June *snaps fingers*

I love how you post three possibilities which seem to be the only logical options then not explain what you think and that somehow makes you helpful.

Again my reads are my reads and I stand by them. This hard to lynch bullshit is ridiculous. I don't go for easy EVER. If I think someone is scum I will push I will fight and I will scream.

Are you trying to unleash my anger sis?

*buttons almost pushed*

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The reason why that was anti-town was because if the Riddler didn't see it they now do and now have fucked up claiming *sigh*

 

Alrighty until I can find the time to actually sit down and catch up with the 13 pages I missed since my last catch up. I have decided I'm going to read D2 and onward in order for me to be able to interact with people and get some reads in some type of order. I still have to catch up on the posts that had appeared due to being at work.


So if anyone has any objections to this let me know. Also I'm reading the current pages and I have seen Lyr be defensive and claim riddler. I would not mind lynching there at this point.

BUT HI TITUS!

 

Hey Babe! I understand. It is a lot. Glad you are still making an effort to play with us!!

I would rather the whole thread be read but IMO that is not realistic and not what I would do so please do what you can so we can talk with you!

I think the Lyrium vote sucks as I think she is town but if you want to vote the forum uses bold text to vote please do so. You can copy paste, remove the star, and change the name as needed. I think Snowvon is scum hence his name in the sample.

[b*]Vote Snowvon[/b]

 

@Sis, not really, most of your thoughts come from others. The accusation I could be Riddler came from Lyrium first. Quank being lynched isn't unique. Citrus town is popular. Rubiconand Mala being absent are hardly unique.

I have documented what I think in every post but even rudamentary analysis helps.

For instance, if Quank is nightwing then we know Riddler did not check him during the first day phase and it helps deduce movement. Deducing movement of the pieces eliminates people as suspects and the puzzle breaks.

This is where Batman is the most OP if he acts as a town Riddler. If he gets the investigations together and establishes crumbs, then he solves the game because he will always have the right investigations.

On the same token, Batman and Green Arroe have leads on Devour dude as roleblocking him is most likely the reason why no devour. The roles relate to each other. These deductions flow and that is what I do.

That last paragraph is why I am more encouraging of tunnels generally here because we likely have a lot of investigatove power that cannot claim.

The townMathblade I know sees this and sees the possibilities. TownMathblade unless she's in a tunnel doesn't force facts to fit theories. TownMathblade doesn't eliminate me as scum bc it doesn't work with a theory. TownMathblade usually scumreads me. Here you bend over backwards not to.

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Town Mathblade also rarely forgetswho her vote is on.

 

The wagon on Lyr is being led by your top scum read as of your last vote. Shouldn't that cause you some pause? Why the change?

Going to sleep within the next 76 seconds but wanted to post this so I dont forget to do so tomorrow.