Whoops I only answered the first one I think?

@Quanksor comment
I have no idea what he'd do as town as far as actual experience goes. He didn't do something like that as scum, but it wasn't possible to try something like that especially with the setup and players we were working with. He did do the typical claim the most important role think (as in claim sheriff when he was going down to bait the claim out)

@Mathblade comment
When she replaced in she off the bat showed a combination of town!mathblade!aggression and began to tunnel a bit (but not as extremely as she does as scum)

Goes with the flow too much as town vs. when he's scum? His playstyle is hard to read for me with the low!quantity high!content posts periodically occurring

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Did someone replace Nemrut or no? He's still in the OP and I don't think he was replaced but I'm not sure

 

Titus has been posting for a few pages as houses replacement who was nemruts replacement

 

Do you think there'd be an early voting scum as well? Considering Quanksor's wagon developed slightly before Sloth's did? How often do you see 2+ scum on a town wagon (specifically 3-4)?

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Oh. I knew Titus replaced House but I forgot House replaced Nemrut. Interesting and noted.

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I'm pretty sure Snowvon is town. Rubicon mentioned it earlier, but he's doing his balance of jovial/fluffiness without any guilt/misleading at all. He also did make the read-wall in the end, but in general most of his posts have been very signature Town!Snow + he's been one of the higher-content posters this game so far?

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They do have to do with trying to defuse tension/potential bad blood. Those would be posted outside the thread if that was feasible.

You don't agree with my town-reads? You don't understand why I slot people as town? Ask me why. Seriously, if you think I'm scum you think I'm making this stuff up so you should pressure me on my town-reads

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Anyone who doesn't think one of the following is town, please engage with me on why:
Snowvon, TerRaine, Mathblade, Lyrium

 

Fishy lurked all d1 and seemed completely apathetic about the game. He made some interesting points, but he wasn't pressing anyone.

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Hey Quanksor, why aren't you voting me like you were yesterday?

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Or Zenzao, for that matter.

 

Anyone know where Riley is?

 

@MathBlade Could you give an example of something Snowvon said or did in AYAW2 that is missing from his play here? Also, would you describe Zenzao's reads as sheeping? What about Quanksor's?

 

@Citrus,It's wholly possible that scum are at the start. I did a minimal vca using Von's assumption because logic says he is confbiasing. I would be willing to provide a more detailedvca if I had all the vote posts and a set of assumptions to use. I have kinda been wanting to seeif vca holds true in a semi flipless game.

 

Vote: Quanksor

Quanksor, are you the Riddler?

 

This is a lot like Von's towngame just less of it. Poor Mathblade hasn't learned to doubtcast well yet.

What are your thpughts on Citrus? I see a large townread on him but that makes me uncomfortable when I see that bc it reminds me of that one game where I was the only one who saw Citrus scum. Am I just being paranoid?

 

Catching up here people. Each post individually that has a comment towards me so bear with me please as this will be a long chain of post merges.

Answered earlier in a post not read:

Short version https://forums.darklordpotter.net/showthread.php?p=778658#post778658

That post was your first post since day flip. No interaction or anything with the day flip just immediately voting Lyrium. It's like you had an agenda to try to lynch Lyrium versus taking into account the night's events and figure out who is scum.

 

I haven't seen anything exceptional from Citrus yet, in either direction. He was gone for the second half of day one, and now he's asking questions (catching up?) but he still hasn't done anything major. So not a town read yet.

 

Four is a rephrase of two.

Five is possible though but remote. I cannot see a town Oracle healing Quank given a townSloth.

Math's reads are convienent including her telegraphed OMGUS. Since the mod missed my last vote.....

Vote: Mathblade

Why so unserious?

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Von, given your townreads all mislynched Sloth, you should keep that in mind. Some of my best scum catches have been based on D1 not being all town. Saying that the Quanksor wagon has all town makes little sense if Sloth was town (which he was). Sloth is regarded as more experienced and harder to lynch so being on Quank is less likely towards the end. The result you should see if scum were in control is an abandonment of Quank for Sloth.

Scum would also prefer a no lynch.

That is why TerRaine, Lyrium, and myself all deserve more scrutiny. Particularly if one was on Quank and flipped bc deadline.

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Ter, Mala's top quote was about me. The second was about Math.


I just used scummer = mafia player. ::shrug::

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Von I may need to revise the suspect list depending on other vcs but that's an eyeball spitting vca.[/QUOTE]


?? I am serious??

Snowvon is actually OMGUSing me. I've had him on my radar on D1. Look and see. The more you post weak ass shit the more I think Mala maybe right and I may need to re-evaluate and see if you are scum.

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Erm bad quoting of DLP...*sigh* Post merge must have fucked it up. Not self voting

Vote Snowvon

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IMO Snowvon goes with the flow as scum more. If anyone besides one post has a reason for Snowvon being town I want to hear it before I start tunnelling his ass into next week. If we had two lynches I'd tunnel him and Quanksor pretty frickin' hard at this point.

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I don't think you're scum Citrus but I am going to pressure you on Snowvon because if I'm wrong someone show me how I am wrong so we can lynch Quanksor.

Note that I think Rubicon could be scum with Snowvon also. See prior posts on scum teams. So far I only know of the one post of Snowvon's that has actual content. Most everything else is him going with the flow. Especially with Lyrium earlier on D1 (as mentioned numerous times).

So assuming your town block is right who do you think is scum and why?

 

MathBlade, do you.

Know what OMGUS means.

Because that is actually not what I'm doing. At all.

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MathBlade, what I'm hearing from you right now is that you haven't read any of my posts -- none of them -- and are at the same time claiming that absolutely none of them have any content whatsoever. Like. You want people to go through my posts and pull all the ones that show I'm town.

That is really, really dumb. You can't make a blanket statement like "oh none of his posts actually matter" and then turn around and say "oh yeah? show them to me!" when people disagree with your bullshit.

Saying I've contributed nothing is only something you can do if you've gone through literally all my posts and decided, against all odds, that they're all actually empty and meaningless.

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Have you ever actually been in a game with me where I was scum? Or even read one of my scumgames? Because you're talking like you know my scumplay. CYS doesn't count because I was fully planning on townsiding. Mostly to spite fontisian the witch.

Also, unless you go through every single one of my posts and give reasons for why they are all worthless piles of garbage, I'm ignoring your "his posts have 0 content" blanket claim.

I'm interpreting this as "I have only read one (1) post by Snowvon" and that's. Not good.

You mean when I was telling people why Lyrium was town? People who have never played with Lyrium before? You're saying explaining a townread is a bad thing? ?? Or.

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Wait, I think you replaced into the Mason game? But I think it was after I had been lynched?

 

Snow, do you have any recent completed scumgames I might have missed?

 

Give me a second to respond to all the other posts that are quicker and I will get back to the Von example.

Zenzao needs to post more. Can't really say sheeping or otherwise til they do.

Quanksor IMO is scum with an agenda (as mentioned earlier). Quanksor is just being weird and not reading/trying to get people to do stupid things. If sheeping it'd be Terraine because of that long ass fight.

 

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=83&t=59515

tl;dr aggressive!scum Grib does not go with the flow and completely fools the town, yet still loses.

 

Citrus is town. Period. Lynch murder commit assault me before him. That is how sure I am he is town.

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OMGUS = OH MY GOD YOU SUCK

It is done in retaliation of a vote or someone mentioning you are scum. Yesterday I mentioned the possibility of you being scum and continue it into today. In response you vote me. OMGUS you did.

And I absolutely can do that. It was done earlier in this game if I recall correctly. You just don't like that I'm asking you to demonstrate your towniness. You have to earn your towniness.

Well too bad. I was counting CYS too. Sorry you don't get to pick and choose which meta to apply and not apply.

I have read your posts and they are fluff. Time permitting I may just take you up on that. Depends on how quiet the thread gets and how much time I have for RL.

*sigh* The one post...again.

You're a fluffer Von. Post reads and push.

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And one game's meta does not make an argument.

 

MB. Who are Snows scummates given your confidence in him being scum?

 

*sigh*

https://forums.darklordpotter.net/showpost.php?p=778803&postcount=1087

*goes back to finding stuff for Rubicon*

 

The full term is Oh My God You Suck (for voting me). Which I never did. Ever. I'm not even scumreading you. Please read my posts.

MathBlade, I am the player and I am the one who gets to decide how I played that game, and I played that game for town. I made that abundantly clear both by my play and even explicitly stated it afterwards, once the game had ended. So yes, I do get to pick and choose which meta to apply in this specific case. This is not your decision.

Please come back with real reasons for scumreading me, thanks. This is getting old.