This is the rare exception Titus. When someone pushes a gambit like this then yeah I hammer. Excuse me I didn't "shop" anything on Quank. He's been a scum read for a while and majority. Quit repeating the same bullshit and trying to get different results. The continued insanity of it all will only end up revealing you as scum.

Although I find it interesting you think I'm the cop. Makes me think my read and caught scum claim are 100% valid

 

Bring this same level of obssession you have with me to another idk 3-5 players. So I can see if you're actually scum hunting.

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Above to TerRaine. Also you refuse then to even consider a possibilty of my not being scum? I just want to clarify that?

 

I was asked to go build a read on my scumspects. Obviously from the long post i was doing that.

I disagree on lyrium being town. Take it as you will.

I will go catch up on Titus in a moment. I'm more prone to believing a crumb she left since no one took umbrence with it from my memory. the push didn't come til later over wording. I will go an read to refresh

 

@KALAS -- Vote Count please!

@Terraine -- ...........Stop. Please. Lyrium is town. I beg of you to listen to me. You're in a wicked space. Look for her partners if you believe that because you are wrong about Lyrium being scum.

 

If you were town it wouldn't effect my scum reads at all. I'm still calling you as Riddler.

See the wall post on fluffy and Quank. There is connective there.

Also none on Snowvon since everything i wrote in that wall was in support of him as town.

 

It's the fact that she refuses any other possibility that makes me resolved to my gambit. Either way someone who is completely and utterly wrong gets to see it and deal with it.

 

Any chance on a response Math?

@Titus: Should be pretty clear. But sure. Snowvon, (one of) Qqqqqq/Quanksor and you.

 

Ok, how are you reading for Riddler and why? Like give me behavior or psychological or other reasons.

 

Said yes earlier in 1463: "@Riley -- Yes. My death will explain a lot to peeps if they don't already know. Would rather it occur later as it explains more but most of that kill drama was to expose Titus as scum since she was scum claiming. Someone else caught one of her slips and so posting like that worked. "

 

I gave a whole wall. You claimed to have read it.

 

Well we have some time, let's try to lynch about 12 hours at least before deadlne to get some Twilight talk in there?

Riley, near deadline I may just need you to vote me because its like this point needs to be made.

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I looked at the posts you mentioned and found nothing there that is indicative of Riddler or different from my posts in CYS where you were also member albeit scum.

Therefore, how are you reading for THe Riddler? What behavioral or psychological profile or motives are you looking for?

 

The problem is I'm 90% sure Terraine is wrong and about 70% sure you are. With Titus we have claimed scum. Sure thing over gambit every time for me but will take the gambit over nothing.

 

So in your wall post, TerRaine I see you reacting to playstyle rather then content because I know the content and my motivations but I don't see what you're bringing to it that makes it third party. We just played a game with several third party so at least you should be able to explain more clearly (see Riley's explanation re the Penguin).

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I mean in that game several people were clearly third party and that was clear (MathBlade, Snow, Citrus, Atum) so let's go back to the drawing board and rely on experience. What experiences have you had or similarities do you see between my play and third party?

Then, again I will reiterate for you and and this questions is also for everyone:
1. Who is most dangerous to town? Scum (Penguin or Bane, Crocodile, Two Face, Clayface) or The Riddler?
2. What motivations do you see behind Riddler?

Oh and MB, her post about my asking questions..I did that in Avatar and Werewolf too..I always ask questions about roles because mechanics are hard for me and I ask such questions to figure out if there is any optimal way..It's possible one of those roles were mine or not, I don't feel like mentoning it but seeing how peopel react to how they think a role could be played and my role helps me think.

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And MathBlade why are you 70% sure. Also do you see the damned if I do and damned if don't circle? Like responding to the questions as I can just results in more of it rather than less. It's like Sloth's "Waah, Lyrium won't answer questions," and then when I do, "Lyrium answered questions waaah its scum."

 

Bottom part first. Both of y'all seem to be in a conf!bias headstate. I agree with what you said about Terraine but that can come from conf!bias town or scum. You're asking me and the rest of us townies that you are right when all this could be conf!bias when there is a sure thing in front of us Lyrium. This noise by Terraine distracting from Titus is convenient though. It is like poke Lyrium comes up when she wants focus off the main conversation.


And 1. Penguin because if someone claimed Penguin right now I don't think they'd get lynched.

2. To find roles and win the game?

 

So either you’re not reading the posts of your top scum read at all…or you’re the one bluffing.

I said I’d do it…then you have no interest in continuing this….then you accuse me of bluffing.

I said I’m willing….I can’t really do anything more than that. i don’t have magical instant lynch powers

Gotta go do work. Brb Do what you all will

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Use Quotes.

 

@MODS -- VOTE COUNT PLEASE

 

That's not a response to my questions, TerRaine.

As I said I like to repeat things, and have people repeat them. So unless you think its a scum tell then idk repeating things makes them more solid in thread. Pretend I'm slow and repeat it.

The wagon on me will give town something to work with and you're the only question mark piece. Since I know that 90% any town power roles can't have a misread on me that tells me something about the wagon on me already.

And MathBlade, I'm willing to a posit a world where TerRaine is town. However, it needs to bring the same level of obsessive tunneling that it has on me to its scum reads. Town can't be in fear of The Riddler to the degree that TerRaine is pretending towards its LyriumRiddler world without also bringing that level of tunneling to its scum reads.

Therefore, perhaps TerRaine is conf!biasing me. It's possible but to this degree of not accepting any other possibilty or really hunt anyone else? That's no longer really conf!biasing.

I'm willing to put my read at 60 to 80% on TerRaine, hell Im even willing to admit that TerRaine's read on me has to stem with me as much as her. However, there's no space there for any other possibilities which I find interesting.

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The Riddler could read a scum and kill it, so to me they are potentially a temporary ally and if we all scum hunted then maybe the Riddler would have something to work with.

Rather than you know Riddler hunting without a clue as to why and wherefore.

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and "like" means feel good about as a player, get there style, from that post. I "like" players if I think I can understand and work with their playstyle.

 

Vote Count

Riley (1): Snowvon
Snowvon ():
Malakittens ():
Citrus ():
Lyrium (5): TerRaine, Qgqqqqq, Quanksor, Titus, Lyrium
TerRaine ():
Qgqqqqq ():
Rubicon ():
Titus (5): MathBlade, Citrus, Atum, his fluffiness, Riley
Atum ():
his fluffiness ():
Quanksor (2): Malakittens, Rubicon
MathBlade ():
Zenzao ():
Kento Kraitos ():

Not Voting (2): Zenzao, Kento Kraitos

15 Alive, 8 to lynch

Mod note:
Hopefully I did the colors correctly <_<.

 

And conversly or invesrly if I think a player reacts to my playstyle (hobbit on something) rather then content, motives, etc then I give them a harder time because they don't get me. Like in the end all we want is to be understood.

 

Lyrium -- See I'm a numbers girl. I have a claimed scum in Titus. That is damn near close to 100% to me. You're asking us to follow you on a gambit that is by your own admission only 60-80% sure. Do you see how that sounds?

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@Monochrome / Delphine -- Thanks!

So Lyrium is in essence L - 2 since I'm willing to hammer I'd just rather have claimed scum. :/

Titus is L - 3.