Going to say this isn't the case in this game. If it were, why would Lyrium or I be alive?

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also link to the Batman thing you want me to look at?

 

Lyriym is likely scum so required charisma level is less. Plus, her Charisma level generally dips when wagoned. She wasn't wagoned D1.

You have been very persuasive and are largely townread but I would not be surprised if you were attempted by scum as an ml wagon until Quank and Sloth took off.

There can only be one worst player.


The Batman thing is about Croc likely being blocked by GA or Batman and looking at the vote patterns.

 

Riley ():
Snowvon ():
Aekiel ():
Citrus ():
Lyrium (4): TerRaine, Quanksor, titus, Qgqqqqq
TerRaine ():
Qgqqqqq ():
Rubicon ():
titus (5): citrus, atum, His fluffiness, Riley, mathblade
Atum ():
His fluffiness ():
Quanksor (3): Malakittens, Kento Kraitos, Zenzao
Mathblade ():
Zenzao ():
Kento Kraitos ():

Not Voting (3) Snowvon, lyrim, Rubicon

15 Alive, 8 to lynch

Mod notes:

 

I would say that again nothing has changed but that this does not necessarily mean that she is scum. I need to reread her posts as well, but it isn't too much of a priority given that she isn't up for the lynch.

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You, otoh, are.

 

Qgq

Link to your read on Titus or can you repost it?

 

I haven't posted it, I don't think, though you can probably read it in the themes of some of my posts. It basically best comes down to unsure. I mean, Mathblades argument (which is largely based on OMFG scumclaimed!) is ridiculous, obviously, and Titus if often operating from similar positions to me, but despite that I'm quite uneasy about her. Her posts are often filled with very odd reasoning/conclusions, with the Quanksor/Sloth bit being a good example.
So probably best to say null read, which I want to read up on, but with a good chance of swinging to scum as a result.

Btw, on a meta note, it's perfectly possible that scum was blocked last night, and Riddler guessed our kill, no? Not something I'd assume, given there's been no evidence as to Fishy's role, but possible.

 

So what your suggesting is BC was a Riddler kill? Not a NK?

 

Yes. Although now that I think about it, I get the feeling ika told us that we could tell the difference between the two, so nm.

 

Indeed He did.

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You do realize even if the Riddler flips weren't different that you're suggesting that we not only blocked the devour but the NK as well. That Batman AND GreenArrow both guessed the precise targets.

 

Indeed? I was sure that the Croc power only applied if cast on a player who was killed, rather than serving as an independant night-kill.

And again, I wasn't saying this was what happened, I was just thinking aloud to a possibility.

 

What is this? Titus and Q use their knowledge to suggest utter crap?

Titus/Q scum as I have been saying. All Q has to say is "Titus looks uneasy" and then later on people forget how obviously they are colluding *facepalm*

Between that and Malakittens I am really nervous here folks. Her only reaction to a thread of arguments is to snuggle me? Btw I think Zenzao is town. Babe thoughts on the past day?

 

And I was more thinking about Oracle protection than roleblocking.

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Excuse me? Where have you pointed to that before (again, not caught up)?

And I just said that Titus' similar reads/reactions were one of the things that made me uneasy. Is there any reason for thinking we're colluding, apart from this? Or are you still stuck in the bubble of "anyone who doesn't realise Titus scum-claimed must be scum" which you were operating in before?

And what knowledge did I suggest? Unless you talk about the Riddler possibility I raised, which is dependant on out of thread knowledge how? And how is that related to Titus?

 

;-;

Because you needed a snuggle. I'll probably be here soon. I'm waiting to talk to Titus anyways so bidding time til Her and I can talk

Also stop eating paranoia flakes babe. We need to sit down and sort each other out.

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I'm warming up to a town Lyr and a town Ter. Gut mostly. Zento im not exactly sure and explain why town? Is it due to Titus? And I don't really see how qqqqqq and Titus are colluding. (God that makes me miss spades /: )

 

-Atum 7, In his large post that was all over the place there was no place where he slipped up. The way he worded things and his verbalage was all correct. In my mind it would be very hard to make a post of that size with so much consciousness going into it without it slipping out that he's scum. Especially since there have been time(s) after where he mixed genders of players up.

-Citrus 6, I can't so much put my read for Citrus into words, well I can and will but I have no technical supporting evidence. The players that I looked out for in the beginning were Sloth and Citrus. Sloth got lynched, Citrus I have been keeping my eye on. When he comes around, he is furthering discussion and bringing points forward. I generally feel like he is town side.

@ika
#1786

@Citrus
Now that explaining your 6 had me looking at some of your posts...
Why did you list Riley as a 3?
What do you think of Riley's recent posts?

@Everyone
Whom might have issuses being here for a twilight discussion assuming we end ~12 hours early?

 

What about The Croc thing Titus is opposing is crap?

It makes sense to me that Croc was roleblocked. You don't agree?

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proposing*

 

@TerRaine
I want your thoughts and/or response to my #1918

Quote: Originally Posted by Zenzao
Bottom to top, order of most sense.

1. Null kill seems unlikely to me. The odds of hitting a strong role(Batman) is about 1 in 11. Factor in player slips(Quanksor=/=Nightwing?) and that could probably be narrowed down further.

I explained why I thought it was unlikely in that same post. Further on, if Scum are competent than why pick a kill at random instead of off of some read they'd had on a player? Even if nothing came of trying to find crumbs from Sloth on Batman that doesn't mean they couldn't have suspected someone from their own merits.

That's also not taking into account if Booster Gold swapped out targets and FJ got the short end of the stick.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Zenzao
4. While this sounds closer to the reason, I still don't think a random kill would have been done. I'm more curious that Fishy Justice's role was revealed to us though. Shouldn't Croc have eaten the corpse? What do the Scum gain by letting that info go to light?

This all stems down to me not thinking about all of the roles in play N1 rolling into D2(No RB/Interrogation coming to mind at the time) with a 16 player base still going on and you and Titus pulling a CYS!Fonti by riding my ass over it.

Scum have a handful of options N1. Bane Stalk Initiation, Croc Devour, Clayface Assimilation. FJ's role coming to light means that either Croc or Clayface should have attempted to hide FJ's role from us but were denied for whatever reason(RB, Interrogation). The wording in Kalas' opening post about the Scum roles

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looks ambiguous enough that at the time I was only thinking it was Croc that could and would have attempted to hide their NK target's role.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Zenzao
3. This sounds more like the right track. Further, I'd say 2 is the end result after putting something together from Sloth and Fishy Justice's posts.

2. The probable cause of death.

Where are you even going with this? Its a logic trap. Of course the Scum's NK is supposed to deprive us of role info, so why didn't they do just that? Now that RBing has entered consideration we can deduce that maybe they did try and were stopped, so if you would please stop hounding me over slower comprehension on the issue.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Titus
Why do we suppose that Croc wasn't roleblocked?


Quote:
Originally Posted by Zenzao
That's... actually a really good point. .

[TerRaine]yeaaa….no.

This seriously bothers me Zenzao….you’re asking a question about a ability that is VERY obvious that it wasn’t used.

Honestly the very POINT of croc is to hide things. It would be like us lynching a scum and saying “batman should interrogate XYZ player tonight!”


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No, how is it so very obvious that Croc did not even attempt to act unless you have knowledge about his role that you'd like to share with the rest of the class? I'd really like an answer to this. Before Titus brought up RBing I had forgotten we had non-Scum RBing available to act N1.

Quote: Originally Posted by Zenzao
Uh, excuse me, but how is that suspect on my part? I expected Scum to do something with their NK beyond just NK'ing, as I expect that most of us did. Then you brought up RB, which I hadn't considered. So again, what?

Give me a break. How is much of anything I've posted fluff? I've been doing my best to Scumhunt since the game began and I'm taking a dollop of salt with my reads since SlothRobin was myslynched

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And I truly hate it when the site won't quote large posts correctly, I had to copy and paste your post TerRaine and this mess is what it looks like after eating the previously working quote boxes around my posts from your own 1895

 

Snowvon
MathBlade
Lyrium
TerRaine

Quanksor
Malakittens
Riley
Zenzao

his fluffiness
Kento Kraitos

Qgqqqqq
Citrus
Titus
Atum

This is where I'm at right now.

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Except Atum probably doesn't fit well with Titus.

 

Why am I scum, Rubicon? And what's so scummy about Atum (apologies if either is covered in the last 300 posts)?

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Zenzao, I hate to clog the thread, but could you repost with the formatting corrected?

 

Atum's my lurker/under-the-radar scum read. And his Titus vote was shit.

You're my active, scum-trying-to-sound-reasonable scum read.

Should I be townreading you for something in particular?

 

Going to have to do this the hard way then(quote multiple posts rather than TerRaine's, as anything so large the site turns blank on the next page).

@TerRaine
I still want responses to my #1918 and this as well.

I explained why I thought it was unlikely in that same post. Further on, if Scum are competent than why pick a kill at random instead of off of some read they'd had on a player? Even if nothing came of trying to find crumbs from Sloth on Batman that doesn't mean they couldn't have suspected someone from their own merits.

That's also not taking into account if Booster Gold swapped out targets and FJ got the short end of the stick.

This all stems down to me not thinking about all of the roles in play N1 rolling into D2(No RB/Interrogation coming to mind at the time) with a 16 player base still going on and you and Titus pulling a CYS!Fonti by riding my ass over it.

Scum have a handful of options N1. Bane Stalk Initiation, Croc Devour, Clayface Assimilation. FJ's role coming to light means that either Croc or Clayface should have attempted to hide FJ's role from us but were denied for whatever reason(RB, Interrogation). The wording in Kalas' opening post about the Scum roles

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Where are you even going with this? Its a logic trap. Of course the Scum's NK is supposed to deprive us of role info, so why didn't they do just that? Now that RBing has entered consideration we can deduce that maybe they did try and were stopped, so if you would please stop hounding me over slower comprehension on the issue.

No, how is it so very obvious that Croc did not even attempt to act unless you have knowledge about his role that you'd like to share with the rest of the class? I'd really like an answer to this. Before Titus brought up RBing I had forgotten we had non-Scum RBing available to act N1.

Give me a break. How is much of anything I've posted fluff? I've been doing my best to Scumhunt since the game began and I'm taking a dollop of salt with my reads since SlothRobin was myslynched