Because it provides us with more information and a chance to talk before N starts.

We can't tell roles what to do without outing our roles BUT we can as a group give suggestions for ALL the roles (including your own to avoid suspicions) still available allowing us to discuss suggestions for the town without outing anyone.

You can also judge reactions post lynch but pre Night actions.

 

@Mala,

The start of d2 posts you're talking about is me saying fishy probably wasn't killed for his reads, right? Did you see my response to that? Is that the entire basis for your read on me?

 

Huh. That was a meta based question. You were asking if Lyrium had been scum in a prior game because you thought she hadn't.

I replied, no that is Mathblade. God I swear it's like I type in Greek. The posts give the context.

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Rubicon, VCA should be empty at this point as we need more deaths to really get a deep hold in VCA. Right now, Citrus looks really bad to me (along with everyone else who voted parked on Sloth and reappeared on my wagon) but that's because I know I'm town.

By now, I'm surprised you're still scumreading me despite the amount of evidence Mathblade is forcing her read, just like Citrus is doing. Yet Mathblade is getting a pass from you? Why?

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Or maybe by parking people get a mislynch and not get called out on their shit. We still need more votes to actually lynch the scum Ter.

 

@Lyrium,

I haven't watched/read Game of Thrones yet. It's on my reading list though..

 

....I'm not sure what you're saying here sorry. Rephrase? I know we need more votes on scum. I think we SHOULD be able to do that by tonight with the info we have. I don't see anything new and gamebreaking coming out. Everyone is stubbornly sticking to their ideas and isn't moving.

I don't see that changing

 

Oh my god... meta I cannot defend.

I can say surefire scumread that Lyrium's broken some vague scum meta. That's just selling points. No one can see or prove or disprove anything like that.

I can say this game you are fabricating shit and you never did in town games. Therefore scum.

Truth is, people change. You see, I AM ALL ABOUT TOWN NOT DYING. THAT INCLUDES ME! You on the other hand, can die. When I can prove to the thick headed members of the town, you are indeed scum (or the start of D3 if I am alive) I will be voting you. Unfortunately, outright lies and fabrications aren't enough when you can ramble magic meta talismans, reasonless reads, and just whispering hey Titus is good at scum to some people.

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Ter really, I can see it now. I'm the major fucking wagon. Lazy votes pile on me.

Unless someone actually votes Lyrium or Math or Zenzao or Citrus, we aren't going to get a scum lynch more likely than not.

So yeah, we do have to fight and how the ludiciriousness of the votes on me.

 

My problem with you is you seem different from your town game. I'm having trouble putting into words why that is. You're always hard for me to read, but the things that made me think you were town in Choose Your Side when everyone was convinced you were scum... I'm not seeing any of those indicators here.

That Mala also thought this was your scum game makes me think I'm not imagining stuff.

I'll probably focus on trying to build a team around you, and see whether anything makes sense.


@People not on Titus' wagon: do you think Titus is playing like she usually does as town?

 

I think Lyr and Zen are understandable directions. I do not think Math is. If you think Im town then trust me on this. Math isn't scum.

 

And yes, I know that's vague meta that's hard to defend against. Sorry.

 

We've literally shown mountains of "out of context" statements, lies, fabrications, circular arguments, complicated scenarios, and invisible goal post style arguments. I'm not sure what else we can do, but we need a new strategy and fast.

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Well yeah, I don't have a mason vouch so yeah that's different. I'm just as pissed off as I was on the other game.

Mathblade lead a lynch train on me based on shit. Got me lynch. Mathblade leads a wagon on me here, and... is getting me lynched.

The literal only difference you should see is the feeling that this shit is getting old. Every time I come on here as town, Math makes up shit to lynch me.

Mala thought XMen was my scum game. Notscience corrected her. She's been off. I can't even walk her through why though. Notscience is also not present to help her out either. She has also been off in reading Notscience lately. The conclusion that should be drawn is Mala's off but stubbornly holding onto the last vestiges from awhile ago.

 

When I was town in AYAW I could be misremembering but I feel like Titus was acting like this....tunneling who she read as scum....I mean she was wrong and it was me and you I think but I did see the same stubbornness and tunneling behaviors.


I didn't pay attention in CYS cause I was scum and you all mislynched her for us.

 

If she's not scum, she's the riddler. This just isn't her town game. Shit happens to interfere with night actions (cough) but not to the extent she has benefitted/suggested (cough)

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That last line is why I'm pushing so hard. We need one to two more votes to lynch Lyrium scum here.

 

She's crumbed Titus....I won't point out where if she were scum the person who had that role for real would have been able to signal it by voting her as scummy on the numbers ranking. It's why I asked for it so someone could "Tell" us without telling us

 

And if that person is stating she's scum directly or is a terrible crumb hunter? Then what?

 

Didn't you say hr crumbs were the size of mansions (or was it the other way around?)

 

I did. With the Riddler present, that's a game of wifom. That doesn't make them true. In fact, that's a good way to draw out the actual holder of that role. It's also a method to protect the real [role here]. That or just a method of claiming her role but that's inconsistent with goodie mansion sized.

You've also mentioned she's crumbed multiple roles. That I have not seen but I am a terrible crumb hunter generally so I just saw the obvious.

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What good is it to CC an obvious claim when she's theoretically crumbing two?

 

I thought she did....but then I realized she said that supposed crumb in several different instances. It wasn't a crumb just a posting style. That was my bad

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Heading out for a few hours. Will follow along on phone but might not be able to post

 

She's full of Bullshit. You know who crumb and revoke until they find a decent fakeclaim.... scum. Town shouldn't be crumbing in a visible manner.

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Let's have this out on Day 3. She's not getting lynched today, as much as I would love it. Let's keep our eyes on the scum we agree on.

 

Leaning towards town on him. I've been re-reading some of the posts and I have to agree on some of his opinions of Math. Bringing up bane at this point seems strange at best.

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Also what is the definition of Bussing?

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From what I can understand it means for people to be along for the ride that someone else is driving?

 

It's when scum get their partners lynched, be it actively or passively, to not look aligned with them.

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The thing with Titus is that based on her play and MathBlade's relentless push on her, I would say she's town. She isn't someone I'd want to sheep over a rainbow or anything, but I feel like she's town.