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Naruto Manga Thread Part 2

Discussion in 'Books and Anime Discussion' started by Jon, Feb 12, 2014.

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  1. Peter North

    Peter North Dark Lord

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    It sounds to me like you simply dislike Sakura and don't wan't to acknowledge her role as support to team 7. As for Kaguya she was surprised because she didn't think Sakura could hinder her in any way. I think your forgetting that Naruto and Sasuke where her only precieved threats hence why the whole battle was about her separating them.
     
  2. Vincent

    Vincent Death Eater

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    It sounds more like you're ignoring the obvious faults in the battle and are trying to explain them away with nonsense.

    Not only does Naruto have more chakra than Sakura but his chakra is more potent as well. I believe Kakashi stated that the Kyuubi chakra Naruto gave him was five times more potent than normal(for Kakashi). That's before he gained 8 more bijuu and the SoSP senjutsu. Naruto also acted like a chakra battery for the entire shinobi alliance so there's precedence for him doing so for Obito. Then there's the fact that the bijuu are all connected to Naruto's clones as well. So me saying that it's forced for Obito to dismiss Naruto's clone as an option while Sakura would work isn't me just disliking Sakura.

    You're pretty much just ignoring logic at this point. It doesn't matter whether Kaguya takes Sakura seriously as a threat. She should still have been able to see her attack coming. She didn't. It would be different if Sakura launched some long range, high speed jutsu from across battlefield, but a flying punch would become increasing more noticeable the closer Sakura gets.

    You're just doing the same thing as Walking Disaster now. Call fanboyism(or hating the character) to try and diminish my argument and avoid putting one forth yourself. As with him I'm being completely objective so that doesn't work.
     
  3. Sephiroso

    Sephiroso Disappeared

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    God damnit Vincent. I was finally able to remove that little gem of bullshittery that Kishi pulled and now you brought it back fresh into memory. Thanks a lot man.
     
  4. Jon

    Jon The Demon Mayor Admin DLP Supporter

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    Maybe it's Chakra based? lolololol.
     
  5. crimson sun06

    crimson sun06 Order Member

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    I'd take Luffy's character over Naruto's any day. Luffy is just plain badass period. For a supposedly retarded character his insights never seem out of place because you know that's how his thought process goes. I loved the arc where they had to rescue Robin. His response to her pleas of leaving her there to die made me want to give the guy a standing ovation.
     
  6. Satan

    Satan Third Year

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    Was there a reason Hiruzen couldn't dispel the bringer of darkness genjutsu?
     
  7. Knyght

    Knyght Alchemist

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    A-rank genjutsu used by a kage-level ninja? Databook description actually says "no matter how skilled someone is, they have no option but to turn into sitting ducks..."

    Sounds like it's a particularly powerful illusion.
     
  8. Swirly Mango

    Swirly Mango Seventh Year

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    Which would have been a perfect situation to show how badass The Professor was... you think Hiruzen wouldn't find a counter to a jutsu that any well-rounded jounin can learn? Sure if it was an s-ranked jutsu on the level of naruto's super bullshit rasengay, but it was only an a-ranked jutsu.
     
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  9. Vincent

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    It's not just the jutsu to consider but the person using it. Hashirama was known as the god of shinobi and earned his stripes fighting against a clan of people with a very strong resistance to genjutsu.

    Also the jutsu rankings may not match up across the forms. An A-rank Genjutsu move could have a different difficulty than an A-rank ninjutsu or taijutsu move. For example Trollkage's army killing genjutsu was only an A-ranker.
     
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  10. Knyght

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    That was B-rank.
     
  11. Vincent

    Vincent Death Eater

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    Meh, that's what I meant to put but the lost my train of thought. Anyway the point stands.
     
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  13. Satan

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    Was it fanon that Root was disbanded and/or unsanctioned? I was watching Naruto on TV and Yamato openly said when they found Sai in the room Kabuto gave him at their base that he knew Sai was from Root and that Danzo has them undergo training akin to the Mist graduation exam to suppress their emotions.

    I also recall Tsunade openly saying that Sai was from Root.
     
  14. Knyght

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    It was originally an official part of Anbu, then got disbanded and started operating underground (literally and metaphorically), IIRC.
     
  15. mortalone

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    The entire battle was nonsense. How Sakura's involvement is supposed to be anymore nonsensical than the rest is beyond me.

    Luffy is cool, but shallow. Without a strong supporting cast of characters he's really nothing.

    Naruto's growth as a character pre-timeskip was light years ahead of anything we've seen from Luffy. His development as a character really invested me and I find myself rooting for him in a way that I never would be able to for Luffy.

    The less said about Naruto's character development post-timeskip the better.

    Two points:
    1. We don't know how jutsu ranking works.
    2. The skill of the user matters more than the ranking of the jutsu. Magic A is not simply Magic A. The Naruto manga is steeped in eastern culture. Ninja magic comes from within.

    But I do agree about the whole "Professor" thing. I'd sincerely like to see Hiruzen as "The Professor." We never really saw it in the manga and in fanfiction authors who portray Hiruzen like the beast he should be (and probably was in canon) are unimaginative, just increasing his attack power. In fact, we often don't even see him making intelligent decisions. Even in the Shezza fic, I have to criticize that Hiruzen was given a kind of bullshit special ability to make up for his lack of broken skills. I rather like the idea of an S-class ninja who doesn't have a broken skill.
     
  16. VanRopen

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    How was giving the Professor a skill based on a technical understanding and vast knowledge of ninjutsu, that could be performed by anyone if they delved into the theory the way he did, not perfectly fitting?


    Besides which, he is apparently better known for being able to fire off complex combination techniques all by himself than he is for the jutsu cancellation.
     
  17. Knyght

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    The more difficult the jutsu, the higher the rank.

    S-rank - Secret Jutsu: Ultimate Jutsu
    A-rank - Forbidden Jutsu: Extremely high level jutsu
    B-rank - Jounin Rank
    C-rank - Chuunin Rank
    D-rank - Genin Rank
    E-rank - Academy Rank

    - Databook(s)
     
  18. mortalone

    mortalone Sixth Year

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    And what exactly does it mean for a technique to be "chuunin rank?" You know as well as I do that doesn't make sense. The metric for the ranking system is ill-defined.

    Fitting? I suppose of all the broken techniques you could possibly give him it is quite fitting.

    The whole "anyone can learn it" thing is misleading. Anyone can learn Hiraishin. It does not require any special genetics to learn. Study spacetime techniques enough, and in theory you can learn it too.

    But most importantly, is it necessary for Sarutobi to have that skill? I'll give Shezza enough credit to not fuck things up with it the way Kishimoto fucked things up with Sharinhax, but that does not mean I have to like it.

    And I am saying I would really rather see the former than the latter.
     
  19. BTT

    BTT Viol̀e͜n̛t͝ D̶e͡li͡g҉h̛t҉s̀ ~ Prestige ~

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    Not sure if anyone still cares, but there's a camrip of the movie out.
    Quality is shit, so I'm gonna wait for awhile.
     
  20. Jon

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    Tempted, but I think I'll wait. Already know the plot from wiki.
     
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