Furthermore if you think about it, on d1 anyone other than Penguin doing the kill IMO is stupid. The d1 is WIFOM to the extreme. They'd have to assume that whoever they tried to kill would be protected or manipulated. They would need to send Penguin to plan for future tracking/investigations. This implies an active player. Therefore again Titus and Mala likely not Penguin. So some of it is odds but after that analyzing votals should make it clear Titus is Two Face more than likely.
You don't think that scum can order around each others actions? This is the leap I don't understand there (as well as the bit above). Also, this is the first I've heard of me being 50/50 with the other player (which you explained well), so I feel a bit like things are changing around me.
@Mathblade, I have mentioned this multiple times before. In nearly every scumgame I have been in, scum can submit actions for each other. I see no reason to assume this game is different.
I am town. You and Mala both being town forces me to be the Killer Croc. There isn't an explanation for the night actions. So that is why if you turn up town I am offering myself lynched because there is no way the votals / night actions made sense. This is a minor part of reasons and something I did hold back because I want people to sit and see this and think. Quite literally from the night mechanics Titus and I are forced into a 1v1. Mala has been forced to set up a bus of her buddy and IMO her play has been really good. So much so I didn't want to stare at these mechanics.
What is a drop Math and go? ---------- Post automerged at 09:07 PM ---------- Previous post was at 09:06 PM ---------- Mechanics never force a 1 v 1 day one. Bus Driver at best... but many other things...
I ask mods for feedback of other forums and in games with this much manipulation they make the scum players play and/or submit in their own QTs. I see no reason for that to change. Granted never had a scum game yet on any forum but IMO I think a lot of these roles are set. ---------- Post automerged at 21:09 ---------- Previous post was at 21:08 ---------- ??? Drop Math and go ?? Context maybe autocorrect fucked me up.
I still don't understand this. If the night actions mean one of the two of you is scum, why did you only start saying this a short time into Day 2 (not to mention I don't see an interaction where that would be possible, and I'm pretty sure you aren't claiming any role.
@Math, so nany assumptions... many night action explanations... I was convinced Quank was Batman... lol nope... ---------- Post automerged at 09:11 PM ---------- Previous post was at 09:09 PM ---------- #2439 for drop Math and go...
I am not claiming any role here. Notice how I went stubborn at the start of day 2. It was because of the mechanics of me Mala and Titus being replacements this had to go down. Killer Croc almost certainly didn't act which forces a replacement to be a scum. During the night/twilight I expected a normal day. That flip where Fishy died is a scumfirm that one of Mala/Titus/me is scum. I am town but any other world is just crazy. Between that and three townies accidentally role slipping in the thread I had to take attention. There was no way for me to play this except bat shit crazy. ---------- Post automerged at 21:18 ---------- Previous post was at 21:16 ---------- Drop Math and Go is my term for when Two Face reveals to guarantee a town lynch rather than a Two Face lynch. Sorry my bad.
Why are you assuming killer croc did not act over roleblocked? Why are you assuming abnormal scum conventions? Why did you start on Quank when you felt this had to be true? Whynot say hey, at least one on Mala Titus must be scun?
<_< Is there like no scenario where roles came into play to possibly stop the killer croc from acting like say booster gold switching the targets or a RB'ing KC. I'm saying there's faulty logic in that <: anyways brb
Math, why mechanically would two face vote parrk and plan to die with zero votes on him or her when they could likely trigger at L minus 1 or 2?
I mentioned why I kept this until Twilight. Killer Croc over roleblocked requires Green Arrow hitting Killer Croc on d1 or being bus driven into Killer Croc. That is a leap of faith. Killer Croc being inactive is not. It became a matter of when I had to flip to Titus scum. I really do hate that flip sis. And sorry I am pretty much stuck perma voting you. From all the DLP games I am seeing normal conventions. I really want to play a game where you get a fair shake but mechanics dictate you as scum sis.
Sis, you realize there are two blockers, Batman plus GA. Supposing random targeting, that is 1 - (10/11) ^ 2. You can do the math there. Also you are suppose scum cannot submit for each other which flies in the face of every game. Why did you not open on me or Mala if the mechanics were so firm? Why would I highlight a scenario (GA blocking Croc) that would lead to a tunnel on myself?
That is why I was begging you to convince me Mala. Prove to me I was wrong. I wanted to believe you were town and that mechanics allowed me free reign. But Killer Croc being RB'd n1 is way too huge a coincidence but scum inactive/not playing because inactive requires less coincidences. If Green Areow had RB'd Killer Croc they would have mentioned something in the first time the flip was done. Nothing. The absence of something implies likely Green Arrow didn't however still let's accommodate Terraine's RB theory in case I am wrong. However if I am wrong about the RB I am still forced into Titus scum for long winded reasons that make heads hurt and out my role so on that I am mum. Pretty much Titus is scum.
