vote: Titus

More after work~

 

So.....if I had to guess....Sloth figured it out D1 and we didnt notice. I do NOT think he sacrificed himself to save him as i think Robin was a better role. He tried to move the lynch off himself AND quank as best he could and when that failed voted Quank to try and save himself.

It failed cause we suck.

There is not a whole lot of info to go off of with Quank's pre mislynch posts...because there wasn't a lot of them and very lil in the way of content. There was THIS I noticed though.

Read wall from D1

Look at Quanks read list.

D2 started with this

Between D1 and D2 she drops from sort of townie to him placing his vote on her. Something to be considered since he had an info role

Quank did not like the aggression being shown in thread BUT he didn’t factor it into a scum read of lyr D1 since he mentions it but still says town lean.

The aggression remained to D2 the only changing variable is he had a night action between there that was an info gaining ability. He never MOVES this vote. Even in the face of his own lynch when he could have abandoned ship and voted titus to try and save himself.

PLEASE ADDRESS THIS POINT AND DO NOT JUST FLAIL "OMG LYR IS TOWN" AT ME.

 

So let me get this straight you are going into a Lyrium is scum argument even though in Twilight it was agreed upon that the me/Titus drama had to be settled and Quanksor wasn't even reading the thread so probably didn't know to vote Titus to save himself.

Similarly as Quanksor wasn't here there was no way for him to change his vote.

Between that and redacted reasons from Twilight Lyrium is town.

 

I think Quanksor understood his role, so in order to have an incriminating result against Lyrium, he would have had to choose to see who targeted Fishy Justice n1. Why would he have done that?

He didn't claim his result even in the face of his own lynch, which he implied a few times he thought was likely. Nor did he crumb a result aside from this vote, which isn't exactly a clear crumb. If he could prove Lyrium was scum, I assume he would have just come out with it and got her lynched.

 

Not what I said at all.

Yes he was. He posted 7 times BEFORE he was lynched over 3 days. He could have changed his vote at any time.

And I was asked to make a case MB regarding the Sloth Quank interaction. I did that first.

He was NIGHTWING. The fact is he could have targeted someone N1 and seen that Lyr targeted them in the night and thought he scum. This is a point that needs to be considered.

I noticed something suspicious and pointed it out. if you want to clap your hands over your ears an not discuss it as usual I cant change that and I'm not surprised. But I'm not going to not mention it.

I was not here for half of twilight. I did not make my way through it yet obviously which you'd be able to deduct if you didnt just scan my posts see lyriums name and start twitching.

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Because his ability is NOT a 100% guarantee that they're scum or town. The claim wouldn't have been a total lock to get us off him.

Let's not forget too....He didn't LIKE the aggression in the thread. he said it point blank that it was keeping him away a bit at times. So why is he going to launch himself that far into the middle? He put his vote down as a sign of where he stood but didn't want to throw more into the ring and get in the middle of the growling.

There's also the fact that every time someone even suggests Lyr be looked at people get shouted down by Math who some how claims to have all nearly 100% of people's roles by D2 despite there being NO role that would give her this info

As for not claiming when lynch became imminent....he didn't even realized he had been lynched at first. There's a post in twilight after he's flipped about how he has to catch up because of the sudden influx in posting. That's a last minute gambit Rubicon. He wasn't HERE at the last minute. But he had plenty of time to crumb the issues he had with aggression vote lyrium and pointedly NOT change his vote

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As for targeting Fishy. Of course he didn't. He said point blank he COULDNT get info if a role was dead at the end of the night.

So he targets himself.

If Quank is protected then something like say a Riddlers guess or scum assault wouldn't commit him. If Riddler guesses/scum assaults him and he is protected he is notified of the attempt though the rest of town is not. Ergo Quank shows Lyr visited and knows somone tried to kill him.

He doesn't claim because he has no way of knowing if its scum or Riddler he went for him...after we all bitched him out for any claiming mention he chose to keep it mum

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vote Lyrium

I dont even care if you all don't listen. I'm sticking to my god damn guns this time. You don't like it lynch me then

 

I'm actually seeing something in TerRaine's arguement here, MB. That and whatever it was that Lyr was doing midway through D2, trying to get her own lynch done, I still don't understand why she did that even counting mental stress. As Kalas I think put it in CYS different kinds of stress garner different outbursts between town and Scum under pressure. I don't remember her melting down like this in CYS even with Fonti and constantly trying to convey her seer power as real without getting targeted for it.

Vote: Lyrium.

Also, great work lastNight, guys. No NK and no Riddler kills.

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Oh brother.

Vote: Lyrium.

 

Possibilities:

- scum deliberately chose not to kill
- scum shot into Etrigan
- scum shot into someone Protected by Oracle
- Booster Gold changed scum's target into someone from situations 2 or 3

This game is so much harder with the Riddler, god.

TerRaine, wouldn't it have to have been a Riddler guess, since the majority of scum have abilities that only affect dead/dying players? Two-Face affects the lynch, and we haven't heard anything from Bane yet. Scum didn't try to commit Quanksor since Fishy Justice died.

Explain more if you can? Because I think I see where you're going with this.

 

TerRaine, beyond me as Riddler\scum who are your other top scumspects?

More to be later here when I am not in a frivolous mood.

Rubicon, can you promise that TerRaine is a good guy?

Poor Quankstuff he was escared and especially of me. That's why he only interacted with me I think. He came to an an unfortunate demise some might say but I say quite fitting for a Batman knockoff I mean Batman already has Robin the knockoff (well in Teen Titans Robin is okey dokey but otherwise meh blah blah).

I wanted to yell Hallelujah that no one died but Kalas ruined it by the whole "is it a nefarious scheme" part like couldn't town have one small victory in this ongoing mess of things?

How many town players wasted an ability on me yesterday night? Gold. Okay, then let's stop the wastage.

I will write my confession and such sort later on or perhaps not.

Atum, Citrus, Titus, speak or fear my guesses.

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Oh no one state that you used an ability on me, that goes without saying but in this one game something wierd happend in response to a rhetorical question.

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I have to think deeply and hardly to figure out how to fit myself into the Convoluted Theory of the Year. So I'll be back, till then prancing and dancing like a vixen.

 

Oh brother...I give up fighting the derp. Will hammer if I have too but this is utter bullshit. Terraine yank your head out of your ass long enough to see please that Lyrium is town. I would like for townies to stick around as long as possible. If y'all are going to fuck this up I have tried to stop the mother fucking derps on the mother fucking train for so goddamn long I must be the town bitch :/

Request my flip to be the town bitch when this is said and done.

#townEpicFail

 

@Rubicon: Are you ignoring me?

Vote: Titus

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Mathblade wash your mouth with soap.

 

Bite me Math.

Want to know why I won't listen/trust your nonsense?

Cause by D2 you 100% KNEW Citrus, Lyriun and Zenzao were 100% town and Titus was 100% scum. I can probably go back and find more or you OMG THIS PERSON IS TOWN/SCUM posts.

That’s not possible…no role has that much power and it never takes penguin’s godfather abilities into account.

You’re stubborn as hell MB…I appreciate that in a person but right now I think you’re bluffing to force your reads again

You’ve fake claimed to try and push a lynch your were “sure" on before. You forced a cop lynch last game. I was scum at the time and delighted. Here I’m town and hesitant to buy an impossible claim so i'll go on real game play reasons. Not your gut

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Atum thoughts on the above scenario regarding Quank?

 

Atum!

Why didn't the Villains kill anyone?

 

Ter, your theory is very specific.

Lyrium, like 70%.

Atum, for the moment.

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Ter, does this theory change your opinion of Zenzao?

 

It is. He also left hints.

Not really. I don't think Zen and Lyr are aligned under this.

And Snow yes ....it narrows it down a lot with a dead Fishy

 

So do you think Zenzao is scum?

 

He left a hidden will guys. With what little he posts he made, why would he amend Titus' scenarios to include a clearly FAKE claim and that if not to point out to use he was targeted.

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I still think his omgusy attempt to turn my pressure back onto me seemed to be a scum move especially coupled with his attempts to narrow down and out my role.

His claim it wasn't a scummy move since we have protection roles is nonsense because unless I was protected N1 it wouldn't have mattered.

There was NO help to town with that interaction from him. None.

Go back and read it Rubicon. Do you see any way a that move WASNT anti town that im not seeing?

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Snow, Mala, Fluff, Kento, (I see your names) and anyone else who's hovering unseen

Opinions on this?

 

It does make sense. But it's not something I'm immediately going to jump on.

 

Vote: Rubicon

More when I get home.

 

You have my attention.

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Ter, give me your best guess for a scum team next to riddler-Lyrium.

 

Zenzao is one of the few people I am waffling on ugh. :/
I did have a town read on him but Twilight changed that.

Terraine read my QT post game it will make sense.

@Lyrium: Should I get my ice cream now or later?

@Atum: Sorry for cursing was just really frustrated. This is crap.

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If Zenzao is evil likely Riddler. I wish Riley would come and play so I can figure out which of the two is the Riddler.