Vote: Citrus

See you all on... Sunday most likely.

@TerRaine
Day 3 deadline

 

My vote wasn't on anybody, since I had invited off of Rubicon.

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*unvoted
/10char

 

kento and Fluff why Citrus?

Also can we get a VC?

 

Well shit. I think I'm really really dumb and also need to re-evaluate my reads. People need to be less obvious but I guess it was a good thing in this case

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Alright, so here's what I think.

We're dangerously approaching the point where scum will get overrun, especially if they have the power to soup. Titus is probably Riddler, so it would be very very bad if Clayface steals her soup power after lynching her assuming the scum-team has been keeping up with all the role-claims.

Unvote

Rubicon, TerRaine, Snowvon, Mathblade, Kento Kraitos = Town
Q, Lyrium, Zenzao, Fluffiness = Null
Atum, Malakittens, Riley = Scum

I am pretty damn confident on those five town-reads.

I'm currently thinking the remaining scum are in the null category.

Vote: Malakittens

Which actually makes everything jive surprisingly well, as if one of the scum-slots was increasingly absent (Riley probably getting replaced) I'd expect the rest of the scum-team to be a lot more lurk heavy

 

@Citrus: Are you saying Mala is a stronger scumread than Titus at this point?

 

Atum who are your reads at this point?

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Also are you not reading Citrus' posts? He says point blank he thinks Titus is the Riddler and doesn't include her in his scum team

 

Top scumreads are still Titus, Rubicon, fluffy, Snowvon. Considering guessing the scum team without any scum having flipped yet is pretty ridiculous, I'm focusing on the one I'm sure about.

And yes, I'm reading his posts. I was under the assumption that the Riddler was considered scum, if not groupscum. My question is in regard to his switch in focus from Titus to Mala, not only because I've seen him push more for her lynch and suddenly switch without explanation, but also because, I'd consider an experienced, capable Riddler to be more lethal to town than a single member of the 4-man scumteam. So I'm looking for that explanation.

And hopefully an explanation of all his scumreads and maybe a few townreads too.

 

Well, a dead Riddler means his power is suddenly in the hands of four people instead of one, as long as Clayface is alive.

 

Fair point, still wanna hear from Citrus.

 

Riley's early play of primarily answering others rather than engaging himself was a little odd, but more-so were he town I'd expect at least a few scum to slot him as a scum-read. While he's probably getting mod-killed, very few players are mentioning him at all AND I don't think anyone has pushed the idea he's scum beyond just mentioning it (when I say him, I mean his slot fyi).

Malakittens is scum because she's coasting and for the most part all she's done is push people slightly in the direction of her reads. Ex: scum-reads Titus, votes her and said she's exhibiting her scum-meta. Otherwise disappears into the background.

You're likely scum because not only are you coasting, you've basically sheeped me onto Titus for two days and you haven't really helped the game-state move forwards in any way. You're also proclaiming your set of scum-reads without ever mentioning any town-reads, where I'd expect town to be looking for both.

Kento has said a few things that strongly looks like a town PoV.

Snowvon has maintained his tone/lightness through over a hundred pages without a single post in memory to make me think otherwise (there's times where he makes a few as town or scum, but he's almost definitely town when he makes none at all).

Mathblade is town because she's solving the game and been very aggressive.

Rubicon is town because I can see his thought process evolve throughout the game and he's been trying to get lurkers to post more so he can get a more accurate read on them.

TerRaine is town for a number of her interactions and general trying to solve the game + paranoia of just about everyone in the game.

I'm leaning away from all 3 of you/Mala/Riley being scum at the same time, as I'm leaning towards a few scum being in the null pile. But I'm pretty confident one (and maybe two) scum are in the pile of Mala/you/Riley.

Why don't you go through and explain your scum-reads? But more importantly, I'd like to hear who you think is town and why?

 

Riddler I think Citrus is the Croc.

Company over late tonight quick post.

First day I crumbed what I did. May I love a material in Dragon Age for Mages. Amen.

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More detailed post tomorrow.

 

I'll respond to your post before I answer your question.

First off, as far as I can tell, you've pushed none of your groupscum reads. At all. Zero. So before you start throwing out accusations that anyone is coasting I'd ask you what you think your overall effect on the gamestate has been.

On Riley, yeah he's barely mentioned because, surprise he's not here. That's the whole reason lurking is a scumtell, because people saw it being used by inexperienced scum, whether purposefully or not to avoid scrutiny. And there's no use wasting time in the Day pressuring someone who's not here, or attempting to analyze the few posts he's got. So really, you're scumreading him because he's absent. Fine.

Mala, not sure why you think she's coasting. Her activity's almost higher than yours and mine combined, and she's a replacement. Going back to my first point, even if I accept your summary of her behavior as valid, you've basically done the same thing this game.

As for me, well you're basically just wrong. I'll accept the coasting comment, I've already said my game has been pretty bad to this point, but as for the rest? I definitely haven't sheeped you or anyone else on Titus, and I'm not quite sure how I'd go about convincing you of that but I'm also not going to bother trying. I will say that I think it's pretty fucking arrogant of you to say though. Considering I've posted a readwall consisting of every player in the game I'm also fairly certain your last point is invalid too.

So basically your scumreads are as weak or worse than you've said Mala's are. At this point all you've convinced me of is that you're trying to convince people you're trying to solve the game without actually doing it. Which is scummy.

As for your townreads, Snowvon I can distinctly remember posting in a tone I wouldn't describe as light when Math was tunneling him, so I'll dismiss that aspect of your attempt to clear him by meta. And since that's the only aspect I'll probably dismiss the whole thing.

How has Rubicon's thought process evolved?

What interactions of TerRaine's clear her to you?

I agree on Kento and Mathblade for the most part but I'm not impressed by the rest to be honest.

 

(Riley) ():
Snowvon ():
Malakittens (1): citrus,
Citrus (5): titus, Mathblade, TerRaine, His fluffiness, Kento Kraitos
Lyrium (1): Zenzao
TerRaine ():
Qgqqqqq (1): rubicon
Rubicon ():
titus (3): Malakittens, atum, lyrim
Atum ():
His fluffiness ():
Mathblade ():
Zenzao ():
Kento Kraitos ():

Not Voting (4) (Riley), Qgqqqqq, mathblade, snowvon

14 Alive, 8 to lynch

Mod notes:
you saw nothing

 

Titus, I'm waiting on your response to Atum because he asked a very valid question. Bring out the exact logical thought process that led you to Lyrium is scum because of mechanics. I actually don't care where the main wagon is.

Citrus, you know other then our scum game this is the longest we've been both been alive in a game tomorrow. It worries me. I try to ask myself, "Could scum win by lurking? Is that even possible?" And I just don't know.

I'm trying to figure out what is going on between fluffy and Rubicon and that weird vote\unvote soft pressure and then Rubicon not really following up on I don't know grilling fluffy for the strange action.

Atum, I have two scum teams in my mind. I might do a one word description of everyone in the game and not but involved some point tonight if the sillyness remains.

One of the scum teams is headed by Titus and the other with Citrus. What throws me off is that both point to you as being scum and they both wouldn't bus when you've been allowed to prance around like a reindeer.

MathBlade, my DAI character is an Elfine Mage, female of course, with a penchant for lightning and fire. I have played about 2 hours total due to Reasonz. Prolly will be playing about 2-3 hours a week anyway which is fine since who knows when the next Bioware game comes out. A Elfine Mage has to deal with a lot of racial inspired commentary which is kind of interesting and it also cannot be blocked by the party due to its ears.

Atum, did you mention Black Mirror or was that someone else? It looks kind of cool.

 

That was me. Atum doesn't know anything about what's cool.

 

oh <3 snowvon, it does look cool.

What are your thoughts on Citrus and his reads?

Should Riley be mod killed?

 

I liked them. Atum's just being a picky Patty because he's scum.

I've only ever been in one game with a modkill, the AYAW2, and scum died so fingers crossed Riley isn't town if it comes down to a modkill. I'd rather he played and stuff because I'm sure he's a swell guy but sometimes things happen and slots are left for dead and it's no one's fault.

 

Yeah, I remember Riley had to be replace in W3 and he was like an important town role so him re-animating or being replaced would be better than a modkill. Unless he's scum which then set that slot on fire.

You think Atum's scum for sure? Like who are his scum mates?

 

Riley was on earlier looking at the thread so...maybe there's still hope he can get back and start playing. I cant imagine we have any more replacements. Shame Delphi is in obs.

 

Delphine, Fonti, Lucky...like who else is in Obs? Obs should be limited to like max 1 person besides the mods.