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Batmafia #2

Discussion in 'Little Italy' started by Koalas, Nov 26, 2014.

  1. Quiddity

    Quiddity Squib ~ Prestige ~

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    Sorry, no I can't.

    Now that I'm away from home in particular, the vast majority of my posts are made off my phone. That means it's a struggle to even quote more then one point, especially if I want to multi-quote (which I can't do on my phone) and even scrolling up is a bit of a problem in some cases.

    I'll try to add the post number from now on (and keep the name), but copying the link and then putting it in as a url as well as making sure to link everything is a stretch too far, sorry.


    I've been scum-reading Malakittens for a while, but I'm not liking the ease in which the entire group seems to be fine with her lynch (has anyone defended her? I know she's only been pushed recently, but she's hit scum lists for a lot of people for a long time), and I worry that we'll end up on her as the easiest target, which seems unlikely to be town - as Quanksor showed.

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    Like I said at the time, that was acknowledging that my focus on Lyrium wasn't eliciting a response and choosing to put if off, rather than an actual change of opinion.

    Your other criticisms are fair.

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    Oh and obviously I can't fix previous posts (of which there are what? 200? [​IMG]) because of the no-edit law.
     
  2. Lyrium

    Lyrium Sent Back to India

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    Oh my dear Snow, I need to not do more thant two things at once and also stop taking away your awesome credit. Like how can anyone not town read you?

    Why do I keep doing that? Is it because of the Atumvon or Snowtum thingy? Does either of you have preference or like a new concotion? Atumpuff? Vontum?

    Snow, how are you reading Citrus?

    @Atum, elf tall or orc tall? What is your opinion on short people in the 5 to 5.5 feet range? Are they allowed to breathe?

    Also, do you think Rubicon can be scum when he's all SRS BZNSS and doesn't even like crack a joke? Like did anyone else think of writing a short fan fiction titled, "Rubicon takes MathBlade On a Date" or did that just happen in my head?

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    Quiggles, strangely enough though a wagon hasn't formed on Malkittens at all. SO that integers me.

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    And I worry for Etrigan, like 1. it has a nice sounding name 2. I imagine like a Knight or something and 3. If scum targeted it, it can't even come out and say"Hey town I'm Etrigan and scum targeted me " because of the Riddler (who might be a good serial killer, we don't know yet) which idk feels a little like double jepoardy or something.
     
  3. TerRaine

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    Actually he's a demon.
     
  4. Rubicon

    Rubicon High Inquisitor DLP Supporter

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    Vote: Atum

    Explanation in the morning, but this needs to happen.
     
  5. Quiddity

    Quiddity Squib ~ Prestige ~

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    Four votes isn't a...oh. Well I feel foolish, I thought the Citrus run was on Mala instead. Let's see what happens then.

    Vote:Malakittens
     
  6. Rubicon

    Rubicon High Inquisitor DLP Supporter

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    i didn't get her crumb, but if she's not the role I think she is I'll be genuinely baffled. :p OR she is scum, probably with Atum because her 'sudden flashwagon = innocent townie" theory smells like motivated bullshit.

    Titus just doesn't fit into any of my scum team theories.

    And I think Ter may actually be scum. More and more I just think her scumhunting doesn't look real. But I'm not betting the game on it and our lynch today is important.

    Atum is scum. probably more scum than Citrus too, unless this is some pointless christmas bussing gambit.

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    but there is one post I just can't fathom mala making as scum. I can't link it because of riddler stuff but... I think she would have known better than to say it as scum.
     
  7. H_A_Greene

    H_A_Greene Unspeakable –§ Prestigious §– DLP Supporter

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    IIRC the Riddler is only allowed one wrong guess in a given phase, and after three they're outed to the whole thread. If MB were the Riddler and had taken at least one guess given her analyzing of the thread, that could explain what she said about cracking the game by what, mid D2? And then the hesitancy throughout toDay when certain players seem to be behaving differently between D2end into Twilight than she had down, so another wrong guess N2?

    @all
    I'm beginning to see and feel what so many have said about this game being grim and/or less than fun. I'm not saying I want to get out of it, but my interest has certainly petered off since last week. Throw some questions at me, please.

    Also,

    UNVOTE.

    I don't feel as certain on Lyrium as I used to, and building a firmer case to stay on her at this point is just beyond my will to try. Not to mention she's being townread by several other players and I'm sticking to my glass-half-full perspective on that kind of thing.
     
  8. Titus

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    Yeah been busy. Seems like most have.

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    Will read later. Link to questions plz.
     
  9. MathBlade

    MathBlade First Year

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    Ditto :/

    It is 2 am. 2 am = tired and going to bed now.
     
  10. Vaimes

    Vaimes Fifth Year

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    5am. Get at me.

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    tbh I can't even remember where my vote is.

    Vote: Atum

    Q is still scum in my heart.
     
  11. Atum

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    Seriously looking for replies and thoughts here. Particularly from Rubicon, Snowvon, Citrus, Titus, and fluffy. Don't make me beg, people.

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    Assuming you're all done ignoring me, please explain both why Titus doesn't fit your scum teams, what they are, and what you meant about a bussing gambit.

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    @Lyrium: Probably more elf tall than orcish. Short people are cool usually, and breathing is the most natural of all rights, so of course.

    I definitely think Rubicon could be scum, seriousness aside. No comment on Rubi/Mathblade fanfiction though. Zero things to say there.
     
  12. ika

    ika Temporarily Banhammered

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    (Riley) ():
    Snowvon ():
    Malakittens (2): citrus, Qgqqqqq
    Citrus (4): titus, Kento Kraitos, TerRaine, His fluffiness
    Lyrium ():
    TerRaine ():
    Qgqqqqq ():
    Rubicon ():
    titus (3): Malakittens, atum lyrim
    Atum (2): rubicon, snowvon
    His fluffiness ():
    Mathblade ():
    Zenzao ():
    Kento Kraitos ():

    Not Voting (3) (Riley), mathblade, Zenzao

    14 Alive, 8 to lynch

    Mod notes:
     
  13. Rubicon

    Rubicon High Inquisitor DLP Supporter

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    Are people teamhunting at the expense of scumhunting? That's not something I've noticed, but okay. I think both can be useful.

    I think me, Snowvon, Citrus, Titus and even his flufffiness have said who our top scum reads are.

    Mine are in this order: Atum > his fluffiness > Qgqqqqq/TerRaine > Citrus

    That was wrong term. You two aren't voting each other. You have, however, been wallposting at each other. Which I guess could be distancing. Eh.

    Name any team including Titus and not including me, you, Snowvon, Math, Lyrium, Kento and Zenzao and I can find a post or interaction that doesn't fit.

    If it's you & Titus, I'd rather lynch you first.

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    Oh right, I understand why you want to avoid teamhunting: Your four scum suspects don't make sense on a team together.

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    Could you give me an example of something you think was a town mindset when pressuring someone? I don't think pressure by itself town from a competent player (and I think Qgqqqqq is clearly a competent player).

    Yeah, that post stood out to me. It was a weird post. Since I think Atum is scum, I've been mulling over the idea that he wanted to be seen voting a partner.

    What bothers me about your approach to scumhunting in this game is that when you look at a competent player (like Titus or Qgqqqqq) you start by not suspecting them and then you search for scummy plays that you can point to as your reason for scumreading them.

    If nothing jumps up and slaps you in the face, even skimming the first few hundred posts of the game, you default to not pressuring them or giving them much attention.

    As a result you end up with only a couple strong scum reads on day 3 with 14 players and 5 scum still alive.

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    Citrus, if you don't want to be lynched today, you should probably try to be more responsive and have more of a presence in the game.

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    ^ ^ ^ ^ ^

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    TerRaine: Do you believe all four scum were on Sloth's wagon?

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    On Sloth:
    Citrus/Zenzao/HisFluffiness/MathBlade/Rubicon/Snowvon/Lyrium/House/TerRaine

    Off Sloth:
    Quanksor/Riley/FishyJustice/Atum/KentoKraitos/Qgqqqqq/Sloth

    Riley is your strongest townread, and you're leaning town on Qgqqqqq. That leaves you with Atum and Kento. Are either of them scum?

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    Riley is probably going to flip town. If TerRaine is town, she wouldn't put Riley as her strongest town read (a 9/10 only slightly below herself) without good reason, and I can think of several reasons she could have. Meanwhile, if TerRaine is scum, I think it is unlikely that she attached herself to lurker-scum Riley by townfirming him on day two.
     
  14. Citrus

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    Huh, that off Sloth list is interesting, considering the number of town-firms we have off it. Why do you think Riley will flip town?

    If Riley slot is mod-killed, will votes be reset/will there be any sort of extension of deadline/etc.?

    Malakittens, where are you? It's been a few days since we've heard from you. Scum-reads and Town-reads. What's the scum-team when not including Titus?

    Atum, propose a scum-team that does not involve Titus.

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    If Riley slot is mod-killed, will votes be reset/will there be any sort of extension of deadline/etc.?


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    Blast

    If Riley slot is mod-killed, will votes be reset/will there be any sort of extension of deadline/etc.?
     
  15. Malakittens

    Malakittens Muggle

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    Sorry busy with holidays and work. If I don't feel like utter crap tonight after this ill post~
     
  16. Quiddity

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    Hang on, Rubicon, you think TerRaine is scum? Could you explain why?
     
  17. Koalas

    Koalas First Year ~ Prestige ~ DLP Supporter

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    No extension and no reset. Plenty of warning was given.
     
  18. MathBlade

    MathBlade First Year

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    @His fluff Have some Visine ;) Maybe that will help your eyes with the blurriness. Wink to me if you acknowledge what I am telling you.

    I think the 5 scum are in :

    Riley/Citrus/Atum/Malakittens/Zenzao

    I only have tentative town reads on Kento and his fluff just seeing if his fluff understands / I understand

    @Lyrium

    That wasn't meant for you. :p And I am pretty sure any fanfiction or sequels or anything of the sort are bad.

    @ Rubicon you aren't my type but I think you can find an Earthy girl for the sequel.

    @Titus Do you see anything wrong with my reads?

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    Terraine I strongly believe is town. Riley I am not sure about.

    If Riley is town then one of his fluff /Kento moves to scum.

    Therefore I think we should lynch in Citrus/Malakittens/Atum as I can't build a world without them being scum.
     
  19. Rubicon

    Rubicon High Inquisitor DLP Supporter

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    Simply that TerRaine has stated in absolute terms that he will.

    His play was weird. It was town in some ways, not town in others. He reminds me of Quanksor, actually: he seemed like he didn't care about impressing anyone. He basically acted as though everyone who talked to him was scum trying to doubtcast him.

    #2615
    #2619
    #2629

    + what I said above about the way she scumhunts. Which could be summarized, "TerRaine has to work hard to see other players as scummy" which I think is a scum tell.

    She posts a lot. She's active. She's always around. But she never seriously pressures or appears to even think much about anyone outside of a very small list of players. She asks questions. But she doesn't do anything with the answers to those questions. Try to find any opinion, analysis or pressure on Kento, his fluffiness, Atum, Malakittens, or you (before I asked) from her since d2.

    She has town reads, though they usually amount to not understanding why anyone thinks the person is scummy. But town reads are easy, the scum already know who's town.

    (I'm also skeptical that this is how town reacts to having scum reads shot down... she should still be pressuring Zenzao right? Even if people don't agree, she should be focused on him? When people disagree with one of her cases, she just moves on and tries someone else.)

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    I think we should try the whole Atum flashwagon thing one more time.

    What do you think about Mala crumbing her role to you? Would that have been a risk if she were lying, or no?
     
  20. TerRaine

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    In movies to see mockingjay but have a question.

    Kalas if we lynch before Riley's 24 hour before deadline mod kill does he still have til Monday to come back?