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Batmafia #2

Discussion in 'Little Italy' started by Koalas, Nov 26, 2014.

  1. MathBlade

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    It'd be a game of wifom but yes I considered that unlikely as well.

    That's why I considered it to be Oracle protecting all the kills and not Batman. However it is still possible and not putting it as a possibility would be incorrect.

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    In the case of Batman jailing I'm thinking Batman jails the victim not the killer. That saves the victim from being killed. But yeah...The scum wouldn't send someone with Batman to do the kill.

    So the person who was with Batman is therefore likely NOT the Penguin.
     
  2. TerRaine

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    If Oracle was the one stopping the kills though someone would be notified of the protected kill. No one is coming forward with that and as far as I can think of there's no reason not to point out to the rest of us that they were saved.

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    Hullo Kento in the viewer bar.....any news?
     
  3. MathBlade

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    I can think of a couple of reasons.

    1) it involves Etrigan a bit so they don't know if they used extra life or were saved
    2) it involves BG hitting scum with a redirect

    There's two
     
  4. TerRaine

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    Asked in my QT Math. The notice Etrigan gets if they are hit for the first time is different than the notice of if they are protected. So they wouldn't have to worry about outing their role

    As for 2...do you mean oracle accidentally protecting scum keeping BG's redirect from killing them?
     
  5. MathBlade

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    About reason 1 I am asking in my QT. No offense to you I just have to make sure of something. Scum could lie and say they got one answer when something else is true.

    *nods*

    There's also a third reason: If scum continually targeted the person they shot at the first night it would be ridiculous for them to say "Hey guys...scum shot at me three nights in a row now...." It would be hard to be believed.

    Therefore plenty of reasons no one has come forward.
     
  6. TerRaine

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    Understandable ask away.

    As for 3....But then why didn't they come forward the first time it happened?

    Also Scum the first Night got a kill so it would only be 2 instances of a protection.
     
  7. Kento Kraitos

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    So I've seen a couple times it come up, so I figure I'll bite. Is it a general rule that people are notified when protected from a kill? If so does this mean all kinds of protection not just oracle's protection would have a notification if they were protected?
    No particular news, just lurking a bit now and then thinking of things, going to go back to respond to Rubicon's question after this, but I had a few of Lyiums posts opened up to question last night.

    Also here's a fact for you, in lieu if lack of news:
    It takes 6 milliamps across your heart to stop it.

    I'm also under the assumption that role blocking stops the scum team being able to preform a kill.

    -If Batman did his protection job, they would have been notified of being protected from a kill, same with oracle.
    -If Batman did his role block job they would have sent someone other then the interrogated person to do the assault.
    -Inertly, Booster Gold can't protect anyone if he is switching himself, unless he switches himself and Penguin, or if he switches himself and the person doing the killing for the scum at night and Green Arrow hits him. If he doesn't switch himself then he could redirect a kill to a protected Batman target. Otherwise Oracle has to target the target of scum, Green Arrow has to target the scum person sent on the assault.
    -Green Arrow has been hitting the person whom was sent to preform the assault.

    As no one has come forward since saying that they were part of a failed kill I can only assume that Green Arrow has been blocking the kills, or that Booster Gold has been switching the target and Penguin.

    I suppose I have been slipping under the radar consistently, although I personally haven't been trying it.
    What is it that makes me not feel like a "newb" anyway? I would really like to know, as both Sloth and Mathblade have asked if I have had a mentor as well.
     
  8. TerRaine

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    I asked in my QT and was told in this game protected individuals are notified if they're targeted for assault or right riddler guesses and protected. Only they are notified though so for the rest of town to know they would have to come forward and say something.

    I'm not sure how this spans across games. If you want to double check for peace of mind that I'm not full of it you can ask in your QT as well
     
  9. Titus

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    Alright. I will reread you. Mods confirmed in my qt as well.

    Vote: Atum


    Also I was on Citrus because I read him as not town. If I had time after the riddler announcement, I would have unvoted. It was like 5 minutes from claim to hammer. Far too quick.
     
  10. TerRaine

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    Thought of another possibility. If Riley was targeted for assault and protected N2 then he would have been notified....however i do not believe he was active at all D3 before he was modkilled and therefore we're in the dark on that
     
  11. Titus

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    Ter wanted discussion and was egged on according to my recollection.

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    Dismissing this out of hand. If scum want a kill that stalls the game, there were plenty of nullreads other than Riley. Keeping Riley makes it harder to get a lynch.
     
  12. MathBlade

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    Am I seriously in a derp Titus game...

    Like wtf is going on here sis?

    @Terraine: Yeah so lots of possibilities as to why the person being shot isn't stepping forward.

    @Kento: Good point...Forgot GA could be blocking the kills.
     
  13. TerRaine

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    Unless they thought Riley was a powerful role
     
  14. MathBlade

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    Yeah I don't know about that. I don't really see scum shooting an inactive no matter the role.
     
  15. Titus

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    Atum (4): Rubicon, Snowvon, Titus, MathBlade
    His fluffiness (1): Qgqqqqq
    Zenzao (1): his fluffiness*

    VCA for later, 12 alive 7 to lynch...

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    This. A role that does not act is no threat bc it is no use to town.
     
  16. TerRaine

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    He wasn't inactive D2...he wasn't SUPER active Granted but he was occasionally posting still by this point. It wasn't until D3 he disappeared.
     
  17. Titus

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    Remote unless GA is not repeating like we agreed.
     
  18. MathBlade

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    Am I seriously in a derp Titus game...

    Like wtf is going on here sis?

    @Terraine: Yeah so lots of possibilities as to why the person being shot isn't stepping forward.

    @Kento: Good point...Forgot GA could be blocking the kills.


    Remote unless GA is not repeating like we agreed.

    --- So you are saying the Kento theory of GA blocking kills is unlikely?

    I don't know if I trust that the GA is repeating. I have two theories on this but am staying mum on the matter for what should be obvious reasons I hope.
     
  19. Kento Kraitos

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    Here you go Rubicon, this is what I got for ya.

    1. Riley - Deceased - 10
    2. Snowvon - 6 (Snowvon is grammer readers bane and he should know it)
    3. Malakittens - 4
    4. Citrus - Deceased - 1
    5. Lyrium - 4
    6. Sloth - Deceased - 10
    7. TerRaine - 9
    8. Qgqqqqq - 5
    9. Rubicon - 6
    10. Titus - 7
    11. Atum - 3
    12. His fluffiness - 8
    13. Quanksor - Deceased - 10
    14. Mathblade - 6
    15. Zenzao - 5
    16. Fishy Justice - Deceased - 10
    17. Kento Kraitos - 5
     
  20. TerRaine

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    More Atum is scum and aligned with fluff reasonings. I feel like people tune out my big cross game wall cases so I'm posting it in segments as i go along

    2110 - Asking for summary instead of actually reading the game…only seems to pop back in because he’s being threatened.

    2138 - Describes himself as a useless mislynch….are there useful ones? Also odd he's using the term mislynch only now that pressure is on him when early D1 when he was not suspected it was just lynch. Possibly trying to force the idea he's town with semantics when he's doing everything else antitown.

    2176 - Fluffy is still in his supposed scum group in this read wall and yet he hasn’t said a thing or applied ANY pressure to him since someone pressed him for more info on it D1 resulting in his back track. Now he’s scum again but Atum never points out reasons WHY he’s scummy again. Just that he “did something"

    Also his attitude just isn’t town to me. You’d enjoy finding a single scum yourself for the sake of being able to say well I found scum then work with your supposed team to win the game? That’s like playing baseball and saying “It’s okay if we lose 17 - 1 because I hit a home run,

    Town works as a team. Saying you're just looking for a scum kill for your own glory reeks of someone who's just looking for town cred. Hell I originally transmuted Kalas in CYS for that reason. We ended giving the credit to fonti to get her the town cred. But the original claim was going to be I tracked and killed him. We could afford to since he came back.

    Since scum currently isn't hurting in the us vs them numbers game they could afford to get a scummy looking member credit by sacrificing a player too.

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