Nope actually never did. Did it for reaction testing.

Unvote

 

(Waiting to reveal night information is almost always a good idea. Too many cops claim right away when they get a guilty - you want to let people talk and then drop the bombshell at just the right moment.)

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Though if it turns out the kill was bus-driven onto me, I'll laugh.

 

I'll be doing this posts in parts.

TerRaine: it’s not only the lurkiness that counts, but also the amount the player has contributed in his posts. And Zenzao has contributed shockingly little, with too many (over one fifth) of his posts being to the effect of this one.

Part 1: Zenzao and Sloth on Day 1

Anyway, Part 1: Zen and Sloth on Day 1

It seems to me that Zenzao is mostly focusing on a single person at a time, and even then he does’t scumhunt much. Day 1, he talks about how Sloth needs to be lynched. And the odd part of his “Lynch Sloth” posts is that a huge part of his scum read on Sloth come from posts 35 and 54, yet in his readlist in post 102, Sloth is rated as a Null read.

Then, suddenly, he rates Sloth as top scum read, while doubtcasting his read wall. And Zenzao says that post 54 is what makes Sloth scum, when he didn’t think that beforehand.

In the rest of the Day, Zenzao does not attempt to pressure Sloth at all. He talks to Ter, Snow, Aekiel, Quank, Q, Lyrium and Rubicon, but does not actually talk about Sloth other than this post, which does not seem to be really questioning Sloth at all. If he’s indeed your top scumread, and indeed the only person you’re “pursuing” as scum, why not ask him questions? Look at other posts? Do anything, really?

Note the "I'm just following what others are saying about Sloth" in that post too. It seems to me as if Zenzao is just going along without believing that Sloth is scum (he doesn't, because Zen knows that Sloth isn't on his scum team), and desperately finding reasons to make Sloth seem scum so that he can vote him.

Part 2 coming in a bit.

 

I doubt it. That would be depressingly hilarious.

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Nap time for me

 

Deadman may only activate at Night. Apologies if ika already posted this.

 

Considering you were jumping on me D2 for supposedly outing your role and now this... just saying.

I've given reasons for my absence(see; December has been extremely trying). CYS is essentially the highpoint and most recent game I've participated in, the details are still, by and large, the freshest in my memory. I'm using it as a honing point for comparison because I frankly do not have any other game I can look back on the same way. I say players are behaving here as they did in CYS because they are, IMO.

I've posted a detailed readwall by late D1 IIRC and tried to MYLO/LYLO analyze mid-late D3. I don't know how to VCA. Given the trend of myslynching(with only one lynch working in our favor, and I use that term very lightly at this point, given we had no Batman lastNight and the Scum can now fill in Citrus' shoes), when I have had the time to post and try to catch up, I've typically been defending myself from (Titus/TerRaine/Mathblade) and at this point I'm just trying to make sense of things. I'm tired of partially relying on others' opinions in conjunction with my own, as I have been this game and last.

I pressured Quanksor and Sloth - and look where that got us. Riley turned out town as well, leaving Atum and Titus as my remaining Scumreads. I will at least concede that I should be pushing harder, but 3 out of 5 here(and pretty much all/all in CYS until Kalas at the very end) have been wrong.

That does not inspire a great deal of confidence in myself, I hope you see.

You do realize that even if Atum is Deadman, he couldn't learn squat from either Rubicon or Titus, Q?

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Blood and ashes, up to page 222.

 

LSo should we let Atum live and see if he gets Clayface!Riddler'd? And then we can decide whether or not to kill toMorrow should he survive the Night?

 

He figured it out a few posts later Zen

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It's something to consider. I will admit even WITH Kalas' conf. he can't do this during the day I STILL say its a bullshit claim.

I do not believe for a moment Atum as deadman seriously would claim he forgot he could do use his ability during the day AND then claim that he forgot that there was something preventing him from doing that.

How do you claim you forgot your own ability and then claim that you also knew their was preventions against it.

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Kento. What are you feelings on all this atumness?

 

I was mostly focused on one person at a time in the beginning rather than digging for a full Scumteam straight out of the gate. D1 is a crapshoot in most games, 2-weeks IRL is not the norm I've played. I noted Quanksor and Sloth as the two I felt were Scummiest given the little there was to go on, but in Sloth's case he should have been playing a better game than he was for town(and @TerRaine, yes, RL was the reason why he wasn't, I'm just saying given the sparse meta I had for him).

I've also said multiple times that I am a slow player. Things taker longer to occur to me than they should. I was also trying to finish writing my Antho final revision at the same time that D1 was taking place on top of that, when I finally sat down to read the thread from top to bottom I was actively looking for things I had missed in my earlier posts, and Sloth's 54 really stood out in a bad way to me.

That isn't my playstyle. I'm primarily reactionary - I don't push and prod. I recall responding to Sloth and disagreeing with his own method of playing.

mfw

How do you get that from my 518? Really? Does anyone else take that away from #518? Also, bullshido. I felt fully confident that Sloth was the Riddler over Group Scum, Quank I thought was more likely to be Group Scum.

@Ika
Vote count update again, please.

So I see. I started my post before that point. I've begun to f5 in a secondary window between posts now to make sure I don't miss anyone else.

Seconded(ha ha, HF, more sheeping IYO :facepalm).

 

I would like Kalas to answer the question in my QT before I address the concerns you've repeated TerRaine. I'm not stupid. I wouldn't have posted things that were obviously suspicious unless they were, y'know true and all. Have a little faith, yeah?

 

Stupid? No I don't think you are. I think you're floundering and cornered though.

 

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I got called into work so someone else has to do vote counts for a bit

 

@Zenzao

Please do the 1-4 thing I asked of others

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@Kalas thanks

 

Mix of town and Scum or straight Scumspects? It looks like youlisted two variants, although the first may have been solely at HF.

Going with former for now.
1. Atum(after the MB/Titus will-they-won't-they cluster, Atum has emerged higher on my list at the moment).
1. TerRaine(we've been over this, she is still at the bottom of my list).
3. Lyr(Less sure of this than I'd like, but lower on my list again).
4. HF(recent bullshido, not at Atum's level but certainly not null, let alone null leaning town).

 

Zenzao refresh me...why am I supposedly scum?

 

mfw. Do you recall my readwalls? Do you see the way I organize them? That should answer you.

 

link please?

 

#67.
#102.
#226.

 

Mix of town and scum please. In order of strength. If ties go chronological order.

 

Reemphasizing;
1. Atum(Scum).
2. Ter(Town).
3. Lyr(Town).
4. HF(Scum).

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And I'm out for the next few hours. I'll be back around 11 to midnight tonight EST.