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Abandoned Harry Potter and the Boy Who Lived by The Santi - M

Discussion in 'General Fics' started by ulkser, Sep 11, 2009.

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  1. CosmosGravitation

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    @Taure, another explanation is that bludgers are enchanted to impact people with much less force.
     
  2. Skeletaure

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    No need to take my word! A brief bit from Wikipedia:

    Bone marrow produces blood cells in a process called hematopoiesis. Blood cells that are created in bone marrow include red blood cells, platelets and white blood cells.

    Mineral storage — bones act as reserves of minerals important for the body, most notably calcium and phosphorus.

    Growth factor storage — mineralized bone matrix stores important growth factors such as insulin-like growth factors, transforming growth factor, bone morphogenetic proteins and others.

    Fat storage — the yellow bone marrow acts as a storage reserve of fatty acids.

    Acid-base balance — bone buffers the blood against excessive pH changes by absorbing or releasing alkaline salts.

    Detoxification — bone tissues can also store heavy metals and other foreign elements, removing them from the blood and reducing their effects on other tissues.

    Endocrine organ — bone controls phosphate metabolism and release a hormone called osteocalcin, which contributes to the regulation of blood sugar (glucose) and fat deposition.

    Calcium balance—The process of bone resorption by the osteoclasts releases stored calcium into the systemic circulation and is an important process in regulating calcium balance.

    Tl;DR Bones do a lot more than just support the body.
     
  3. Gene

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    Well, yeah.

    I'm talking about the heart itself being ruptured in multiple places, if not crushed outright. That's a bit more drastic than a broken bone, even if the complexity involved in recreating the organ is roughly similar.

    If Harry's aim had been a bit more centered, he might have smashed Calypso's heart instead of "just" crushing her lung. (Please tell me I'm remembering right and not creating a hypothetical based on a spell that wasn't used. That would be...embarrassing, at the very least.)

    I'd think that would be near-certainly deadly (though not quite immediately, as the lack of oxygen wouldn't be a problem for a few vital seconds.) I'm under the impression that a lack of any oxygen influx would be very quickly fatal.
     
  4. Russano

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    It is definitely more serious. Except for you know, the part where they have magic.
     
  5. gbbz

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    I have something to say that has bugged me for a while and only now did I bother to check for it.

    When did Nathan get a Firebolt? I think it was just a slip up on Santi's part, because in the same chapter he wants his parents to buy him a new broom:
    So him flying against the Horntail on a Firebolt is confusing.

     
  6. KrzaQ

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    @Gene: stating your conjecture as fact and then accusing me of using fanon to support my claims is hypocritical. There is nothing (that I can think of or has been quoted by you) in canon that supports your claims.

    @gbbz: here, specifically:
     
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    I admit to being drawn into trying to defend something I don't think I originally intended to state. (I say that because I'm not sure what I'm trying to argue for right now. Is it about how easily wizards can heal heart damage? Because I honestly don't have any idea of the mechanics of how we do it in the real world, much less how wizards would do it. To be perfectly blunt, I was having fun debating in general, and the conversation got away from me.)
     
  8. gbbz

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    Yeah, I forgot about that. But then the quote I posted earlier is quite strange...
    Nathan wants a BETTER broom than the best one there is? There's spoiled and there's spoiled...
     
  9. KrzaQ

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    My argument is that you're taking the muggle approach to their duel and consequences thereof.

    From canon or Santi's story we know:
    - some dark magic may make wounds caused by it impossible to heal (canon),
    - it took one evening to heal Calypso's wound (making the above not true in this case),
    - nobody in-story said that it was potentially lethal. There's no concrete evidence to say it was (or wasn't but among four characters, at least one should say something),
    - magic is awesome at healing physical injuries (canon, although there's nothing on heart specifically so you might be right that it would be fatal - but you have no hard proof and the circumstantial evidence points to the opposite conclusion).

    It may be editorial mistake on Santi's part or maybe Nathan wasn't entirely serious.
     
  10. gbbz

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    I think it's just a mistake, it doesn't make sense otherwise. It's a Firebolt, even in canon it was a big deal (after all Malfoy never got one).
     
  11. Gene

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    I think I was trying to say that if Harry's spell had hit either her head or heart, she'd probably not survive long enough to get treatment: the elixir of life can't keep you alive if you never drink it, to use an analogy. I believe, and might well be wrong, that the wound caused was serious enough (based on its effects in the story) that, had it occurred in a more sensitive area, immediate treatment would have been necessary to prevent death by either a lack of any blood circulation or having her brain crushed.

    Assuming this, I believed that Harry's lack of recognition of this, or minimal acknowledgement of this, spoke to a coldness of personality incongruous with someone concerned about the moral repercussions of their actions. This discussion started out as a bastardized question on whether Harry was evil or not, unless I forgot that too.

    I then got a bit too carried away and started speculating on how well magic would do at healing injuries, where I started just spouting BS because the discussion got away from me and I'm too stubborn to just acknowledge when I'm being an idiot.
     
  12. Russano

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    His callousness seems to point more to a lack of risk than a lack of caring. I have a hard time beliving Harry would not be incredibly devastated should anything actually happen to Calypso.
     
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    Tbh, the Kira breakup (and especially the Hermione thing) seems rather forced, and for no more reason than canon compliance.
     
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    I agree. In all honesty, it was pretty forced in canon as well.
     
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    That part was scrapped IIRC, Peter remains alive and at large, the Firebolt is most likely Santi mixing up canon and his fic.


    As for Viktor and Kira's breakup, nothing unexpected about that, I'm gonna quote myself from way-fucking-back in 2011.

     
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    We suspect he's alive and at large, there's no confirmation about that. Nathan definitely has reasons to believe he killed him (same reasons as canon, really, since Peter hasn't used this card before).
     
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    Wasn't there a part in the fic something about how they saw him on the Marauder's Map, Remus tried to confront him, Peter saw the map and then vamoosed out of there? Or did the supposed killing of Peter happen after that?
     
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    I am surprised no one has noted that seemingly innocuous comment about there being too few chairs at the feast. Particularly since the section is titled A Bloody Yule Ball. Might be a red herring, but nothing has happened yet to justify the title, and that comment really jumped out at me on my first read through.
     
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    They did see him on the Marauder's Map. Or rather Lupin confiscated the map from Fred and George at a plot convenient time. It was even a big deal since Harry started to chew out his father for forgetting about a "one of a kind magical artifact".
     
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    I believe the table Harry sat at was put under the notice-me-not charm. The seats remained unused.
     
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