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General Mafia Discussion

Discussion in 'Little Italy' started by Prophylaxis, Apr 4, 2014.

  1. TerRaine

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    This has nothing to do with any particular players for me. It's a potential policy that's been brought up and I want to hear your opinion. If you want to act like its personal I'll bow out and keep my mouth shut.

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    I also point out that i don't think its a viable policy but that doesn't really go along with you making me look like a vindictive bitch
     
  2. Sloth

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    Hungry for apples?
    Lee, let's not bring names into this. That's making it personal. Stop it. -__-

    But, you're aware of what a majority is right?
    Say player A, B and C hate playing with player 1.
    They vote against playing with 1 to the Mod, on a 10-player game.
    3 people on 1 vote. You need at least 5 for something to happen. So nothing will.

    Now if players A, B, C, D, E, F, and G all vote against playing with 1, that's 7 votes on one player. More than half.
    And if more than half don't want to play with a certain player, it becomes time for that player not to play.

    There's. A difference.

    Don't try to look at this through a skewed glass again, Lee.
    If you want to contribute, please do so with that in mind.

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    She keeps ninja'ing me. I'm telling the mods to WOTC her.
     
  3. Aerylife

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    Sigh.

    Why is this suddenly being brought up now? Dlp has been playing mafia for years, and now this idea pops along since reasons? This is obv due to people having retarded drama between each other. That isn't a reason to bow out Raine, but it is the truth.

    You guys are getting way too butthurt over a game of mafia. I don't wanna play with this guy/girl/gender unknown so we're going to develop a voting system to keep certain people out of games? That's ridiculous. I'll respect a mods decision since he /sheis the one who went through the trouble of making and balancing the game. I can understand why some people may want games reviewed. And that's fair.

    But this? This is just pointless melodrama. If you don't like someone to the point you won't have fun playing a game of mafia with them, don't play. And please, keeping the votes private won't work. Because someone will say "Oh I didn't vote for you to not play" and by process of elimination it becomes pretty obvious. I like Little Italy, and I like playing mafia with you guys, but if you want to start a voting process for who can play what because you personally don't like the person, fuck this.
     
  4. Quiddity

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    Out of thumbs, but what Lee said.
     
  5. TerRaine

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    It's being brought up because someone that I believe is new to this particular forum bought it up as a suggestiong. I'm commenting on it because it's been put to general opinions.

    I don't think its a viable or working policy but I wanted to hear others opinions and scenariors. You assume the worst of me and interject that I can only be commenting for personal reasons. It's not but if my opinion carries the worry of vindictive bias even when I agree with you then I'm not a god candidate to discuss this so I'll leave you all to it.
     
  6. Quiddity

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    That said, I'm pretty confident that a system like this wouldn't work out. If you've got over half of the players actively seeking out the mod to ask another player doesn't play, that person has probably done something so bad as to be banned/barred from mafia in general.

    Anything less than that, and you won't be getting a majority of players doing that instinctively anyway - unless the mod does something unbelievably stupid like bringing it out into the open. Which is obviously a stupid idea and would degenerate into unbelievable drama.

    Thus, this system a) isn't going to work any better than current setup and b) is liable to create a crapton of drama.
     
  7. Sloth

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    I feel we could benefit from a system like that, but again, we don't have the numbers for it. It doesn't mean we shouldn't approach it and see how to make it work for when we do.

    Really, Lee - you're the one that's not listening and simply complaining. Is the idea that if over half the players don't want to play with a certain characters, THEY shouldn't be the ones to leave really such a ridiculous concept for you?
    It's not drama, it's statistics. Stop trying to make it dramatic.

    But consider the matter dropped, I suppose.
     
  8. Aerylife

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    Oh my.

    Yeah a new system to exclude people from mafia games is totally not personal in the slightest.

    Raine. Stop being sensitive.

    Dlp mafia used to have a player base along the same size. And people, just like now, didn't always get along. But they still played together. They didn't try to exclude others. If they didn't like someone, they didn't play and made no biggie out of it, since it's a fucking game.

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    ......................

    Sloth.

    Raine.

    You guys aren't getting it. I've played mafia here for years. It's not like we suddenly have way more people or anything, it's that some people are being overtly. fucking. sensitive.

    You guys remember this is a game right? Like you don't have to play. Trying to implement or even consider a system to exclude people is beyond fucking lame.

    And please do continue, this needs to be discussed if we want anything to be resolved or changed.
     
  9. TerRaine

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    ....I agree with you. Jesus fucking christ. I've said it like 3 times that this isn't a good system.

    I have a better question why are you so hell bent to make it seem like I am trying to exclude people?
     
  10. Aerylife

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    I assume if you want to discuss this, you obviously have some consideration or opinion for what Fonti suggested.

    If you don't like what Fonti said, what do you want, Raine. Because that's how it is seeming to me.
     
  11. TerRaine

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    I want to discuss because it seems a few people are upset and I want to see if there's a means to make people happy.

    I don't think this is it.

    You can't make EVERYONE happy but it doesn't hurt to explore options. It doesn't mean I think that the conversation ends.
     
  12. Sloth

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    1 - you're not addressing anything I say. It makes continuing pointless. Sorry, I mean no offense by that, it's just true.

    2 - In this case you're the one being sensitive: We keep bringing up why it makes sense, you keep bringing up the emotional aspect of it.

    Unless that changes, yeah, we're pretty much done here. Or do you want to keep at it?
     
  13. Aerylife

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    I'm sorry Sloth, I can't make it more clear than "People are being overtly fucking sensitive and trying to exclude people from a game of mafia for since wahhh is fucking stupid".

    But this isn't going anywhere, we have different values. So we can end it here.
     
  14. Rubicon

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    I think we should simply make the rules stricter about what isn't acceptable behavior in games. Things like personal attacks, posting in all caps, or even not making en effort to spell correctly. People who break the rules get a warning. People who continue to break the rules get banned from playing mafia for some period of time (or permanently if it's serious enough).

    Make it about a minimum standard of behavior, not specific people.
     
  15. Aerylife

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    The sad thing is Rubi, we didn't used to need that. Apparently now we do, and while it is acceptable it is def disappointing. And nobody wants to mod anything.

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    And I'm not just talking out of my ass, I mean I've talked to board mods about this and nobody cbf'd.
     
  16. Sloth

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    That's a compromise I suppose.

    But look, I know I said not to bring names into this, but it kinda sounds like you're describing one specific player here.
     
  17. Aerylife

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    Zzz.

    Yeah. Nobody else has ever personally attacked and slung shit here in a game of mafia.
     
  18. Sloth

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    Sure, Lee. Those are the parts I was talking about. /sigh
     
  19. TerRaine

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    I can't do thumbs up so I'm doing it I'm spirit rubicon
     
  20. Vaimes

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    Also, why in the world are random people coming in to post in a thread they have no business participating in to antagonize someone who was already upset?
     
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