If there's a Watcher/Tracker, I don't think they should claim. They aren't really the same thing as Cop.

 

Considering that this game was put together at the last minute and that Q's other two games were not very role intensive, there's almost no chance of there being another investigative role in the game. They should claim.

 

They are in terms of being investigatives, and it's doubtful we have multiple of those? Ehhh idk I could buy 2 town investigatives, but then one should have results by now anyways

 

Eh, if you say so.

 

@The Waco Kid: Yeah, everything's fine, I'm just having some trouble following this game for a variety of reasons, and I'm not sure how much input I really have to offer. To save some time though, I am not scum, and have been tentatively scumreading fontisian for reasons such as vibes and because she was 0 for 2 on scum last time I checked, which is not a good sign in my experience. I will say it's pretty weird that I'm getting zero pressure from Citrus though so that should be addressed.

Vote: Snowvon

 

Fontisian, could you quote anything you've said concerning this today? Or if I read all the way through and say I found/didn't find it, can you give your thoughts on Waco Kid right now? Thanks

 

Fluff didn't flip scum? And I explained this yesterDay?

I don't have a town read on Waco, which makes him potential scum, and the way he's focusing solely on Von is bullshit that does nothing and offends no one.

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Oh, right.

Atum, you talked about three people who were not Von there. Want to fix that?

 

No, I want to talk to Snowvon. Who are you trying to lynch today?

 

Mathblade, the obv!scum.

And right, because the best way to get someone to talk to you is to put down a blank vote, not provide reasons, ask questions or actually do anything productive.

 

Don't like this post. This is the one I mentioned that potentially feels like scum frustration.

Very thrown together case. I'd expect Town!Ter to give more then just one point in her big post on lynching someone, let alone Fontisian.

Like, I'm literally at the point where I'd just ask for a claim and shoot her if I was a day-vig. Soooooooooooo scummy.

It's not even the scummy-but-might-be-important-TownPowerRole. It's just straight up looks like scum.

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This sounds like town mathblade (her confusion over Lucky's claimed results sounds genuine, if there were a scum roleblocker she'd know)

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I guess this answers my 1-10 question in finality. Fontisian remains a town-read. I was fairly certain scum!Fontisian would try to push scum!Lucky through to a lynch. I'm fairly sure Lucky is town from just the weird feedback stuff alone, and I think Town!Fontisian would make the same call.

@Rubicon
That's why I had the 1-10 thing on Fontisian, I wanted to pin her scum-reading him or not. Her posts/vote seemed more I'm-frustrated-with-you-so-voting-you than you're-scum-die. I've seen her do the frustration vote thing often early on in days / when votes aren't a big deal yet.

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@WacoKid

I don't think Fontisian would align herself so hard with Snowvon if they were both scum. I could see her trying to setup an association if she were scum, but not if she were town - specifically some weird posts like the irl stuff one.

Basically, I could buy

Scum Fontisian, Town Snowvon
Town Fontisian, Town Snowvon

I don't think I could buy any of the other two combinations of reads.

@Snowvon

More because I've had more time, I was busy with Finals during early Batmafia.

Reads:

Very confident town:
Mathblade, Luckylee

Confident town:
Rubicon, Snowvon

Fairly confident town:
Fontisian

Unknown: Sloth, WacoKid

Null:
Atum

Scum-dar is going nuts:
TerRaine

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This is a good point.

But then you've read through the entire thread and are having issues getting engaged? Or like can you just give gut-reads on everyone?

Do the 1-10 thing from batmafia how about. Give a number on everyone so we can see where you're reading/feeling on everyone please?

 

Jeez, you guys really aren't seeing the obvious with Math, are you?

 

Reads:

Very confident town:
Mathblade, Luckylee

Confident town:
Rubicon, Snowvon

Fairly confident town:
Fontisian

Unknown: Sloth, WacoKid

Null:
Atum

Scum-dar is going nuts:
TerRaine

Anyone missing from this list, I didn't remember was in the game. We're uhhh. Probably at MYLO tomorrow just as a reminder everyone (or I forgot about someone).

I'm thinking scum are in TerRaine/Sloth/Waco/Atum (a combination of 4 of them), with a minor chance of Fontisian being scum. I'm fairly fairly certain there isn't any scum outside this grouping?

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I'm seeing exactly what I'd expect from Town!Mathblade. Scum!reading me when I'm town + genuine confusion with all the role blocker shenanigans. Being really loud + forward/aggressive when she posts.

Unless it's a town!role-blocker which then negates the genuinity point.

 

Glad to hear everything is ok

Please clear a few things up for me:

Are you only scum reading Fontisian because of the "0-2," and if not can you elaborate a little on the vibes?

Why would you expect Citrus to be placing pressure on you?

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@Citrus, her? Fontisian?

 

No. This is a horrible idea if a cop/seer exists. That would make them night kill bait. Cop should stay silent and just point out how much bullshit this is.

There is no reason to CC when this is clearly crap.

 

Hey citrus reading the game is fun for people who at actually town.! Your rubicon quote that you use in your read of me that you say you'd soooooo shoot me is directed at fonti

 

Jeez, frustrated much because I won't be mislynched?

 

Let's try this. Rubicon ask Math a playful question:

She flips out, with all caps.

Not exactly damning, but definitely over the top.

Then, I ask her:

She then assumes I am attacking her in game for the cursing and tries to justify it as something she's done in past games.

That's way over-defensive and unnecessary, and indicates a guilty mindset.

Later on, I post this:

Now, Math knows that I work by POE, meaning that it's not so much that I have scumreads on these people, as that they aren't town.

She responds with this, numbered for your convience:

1. A typical scum whine about the unfairness of arguments, as if all grammatical arguments are created equal.
2. That guilty mindset again. Again, Math knows that I work by poe, yet she's assuming I picked out a specific thing to scumread her. At the time, I had not.
3.Math called Atum and Sloth likely town because she was grouped in with them, despite the fact that she claimed to have a null-scum and null read on them respectively on the previous page.

So, I got into it, quoted three of those things as overdefensive, and voted for Math. And, what do you know:

1. We have an overdefensive reaction again, trying to justify this behavior as the same as previous behavior. See, the first two Math quotes.
2. No, Math is not overdefensive normally. It stood out here more than in any game she's played before.

Moving on, when I voted for Math, I also said this:

to indicate that I'm not bothered by swearing and Q shouldn't regulate it. The "unrelated to that" part was specifically put in to indicate that Math's swearing had nothing to do with my scumread on her, and that the question were initially asked out of concern for her wellbeing. So, when Math made a point to bring up swearing, again, I said this to redirect her to the actual isssue:

And Math again did the overdefensive thing, assuming I was just messing around with words and was still trying to attack her for her swearing, as if she can't even imagine the idea of me not caring about it:

Further explanation:

Further complete incomprehension of the idea that I'm not scumreading her for swearing:

Then we have some anger that she can't push through a lynch on an obvious townie:

Just look at that. Math's pissed that she's under pressure and the lynch that she hoped to get on our horribly scummy cop won't go through.

And finally, more overdefensive insistence that she does this every game. Which, again, she doesn't.

 

@Atum,

Also, you seemed to focus on Fontisian in your post, what made you vote for Snowvon?

 

I agree with both of these.

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Did you miss #1519?

So make a case.

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vote: snowvon

 

Uhh its directed at you, I had too many quotes in that post probs

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The day shot comment was talking about terraine