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Endgames: Masquerade Ball

Discussion in 'Little Italy' started by Sloth, Feb 5, 2015.

  1. Kento Kraitos

    Kento Kraitos Muggle

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    Whether or not you like an opinion doesn't make it existent or non-existent. I can put it in more plain terms if that's what you want.

    In my honest opinion I think that Bill is focus on plays that are more known to be silent during games.

    And on the topic of saying notable things, Does this mean that Rubicon, Mathblade, Titus and Blab have said nothing of note or lack there of?

    Also, Is there any reason you haven't made a note of Irene? Your reasoning is "holy shit the words". Do you not have the time to read it? From what I am aware this is a game of finding slips and connections between players through their posts. Yet you have decided to not make a comment on a player because they have too much posted.
     
  2. Citrus

    Citrus First Year

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    For those bringing the argument that scum wouldn't be stupid or whatever -> isn't that the definition of a scum-slip, in a way?
     
  3. Bill Door

    Bill Door The Chosen One DLP Supporter

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    Still not an opinion so much as a statement. So I'm focusing on people that often post little. Give an opinion on me, not on what I have been doing.
     
  4. Rubicon

    Rubicon High Inquisitor DLP Supporter

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    I learned a lot from CYS about not making accusations and being willing to wait for reads. I want my suspects lynched from day one. That means staying focused and explaining my reads. I could try to attract a lot of aggression by claiming a PR or whatever but everyone expects that shit from me now, it's sad. But I adapt.

    No I don't know what you mean by anti-scum not pro-town but I'm interested.

    As for the rest, maybe. You're basically proposing that blab's mindset is in fact looking for scum, just in another faction. So even when I say something that's hard for him to answer and maybe makes him squirm on the spot, he still manages to consider my alignment.

    In other words, Atum started out being scummy and then through an awkward interaction with Bill Door managed to convince you he was really just an idiot?

    OBJECTION. Atum is not an idiot.

    And he's not consistent with his past play either. Go read his first ten posts in BatMafia 2. That's his most recent serious town game. Consider his tone and attitude. He was laidback and his posts were confident but not over-serious. He eased into things slowly, cracked some small jokes ("Without fonti, massclaim isn't even fun"), answered questions about the different roles and massclaim strategy, talked to a broad subsection of the playerlist, poked with questions, pointed out small inconsistencies.

    Then he got serious. Not right away, but not too far into the day either. Read his first serious argument against another player, his fluffiness, and compare it with his argument against Zenzao. Are they coming from the same town mindset? Same depth of thinking?

    What about interactions?

    Snowvon asked him basically the same question here. "Are you going to give me reasons to townread you?" Does Atum's answer seem like the same mindset as his answer above?

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    That was in reply to irene by the way, the quote function had a panic attack and passed out when I tried to use the quote button on her post.

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    o_O
    Are you really THAT confident that Atum is town already?

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    No no no, scum read on Citrus despite him posting ZERO times at that point. That is what you are townreading. :p

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    blab
    Is Irene scum?
     
  5. dhulli

    dhulli The Reborn

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    Troll vote.

    Mistaken identity
    Abrasiveness
    Can't think of a reason for him to be town.
    He's town because...it'll keep him alive.
    Trollpost
    Sarcasm
    Sarcasm
    Post about sarcasm.
    ...

    So yeah, this is stupid town behavior to me. No way is this a scumtell. This isn't an "ooops, made a mistake" scum moment.

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    I'm not completely rolling out Atum being scum, he could be third party where he can troll like this but no way he does this with scum mates who depend on him. But here's why I think he's not third party.

    But third party roles in this game are such that it would be in their best interest to lay low. So I'm thinking third party will be one of the ones posting the least.

    Citrus, are you third party?

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    Pretty similar reason like I posted above.
     
  6. Citrus

    Citrus First Year

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    Nope, I'm town, but isn't that a horrendously useless question regardless of what I am?
     
  7. Rubicon

    Rubicon High Inquisitor DLP Supporter

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    This is what I'm asking about. It seemed as though you were jumping to calling him town rather quickly given your level of experience with him (one game where he was scum).

    Explain?
     
  8. Aerylife

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    Hey Snowvon, I know how much you like being alerted so I figured why not?

    What do you make of current events? Give reads. Specifically, Atum, BillDoor, Citrus, Kento, and Fluffy would be nice. Oh and I wouldn't mind your thoughts on Senpai as well.
     
  9. dhulli

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    That was a prompt asking you to post more.

    Rubicon, If I'm third party and I want to stay alive until the end of the game, I would not tangle myself in any sort of bandwagons. Because you go too hard on a town lynch and you out yourself as possible scum. You go too hard on scum lynch and they NK you. See my post on Waco kid for how I think a third party would play.

    Also, it's more than just the one game I played with him. I've never seen scum behave day1 like Atum has. It's always usually vanilla town. See my post above where I quoted Atum, maybe I'm just new to the game, but no way is that scum behavior.
     
  10. Titus

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    Not really. Some of the role PMs are more than meets the eye. For instance some of the roles say restrictions are here. So if a third party wanted to claim town aligned, they might do so.

    Although maybe that's just me over thinking it.

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    So you think 3p plays like town pr. Good to know.
     
  11. Irene

    Irene Seventh Year DLP Supporter Retired Staff DLP Gold Supporter

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    I am sorry for tl;drs man. Lord forgive me for my sins. So to be concise and easy on poor BillDoor… Wait I can’t. Sorry. Incoming.

    MathBlade #248 “Meh I don't like this from Rubicon. Atum's actually posting instead of lurking around, so I'd give him the benefit of the doubt for that. I also think his posts are town but it feels like Rubicon's trying to be town rather than being town.” I CANNNOT EMPHASIZE ENOUGH HOW MUCH I AGREE WITH THIS. :\ In all honesty.

    “Rubicon/Fonti/Titus is a second but I think Titus is town but not 100% sold on it. Every time I get close to a town read on her, she does something scummy *sigh*”

    Theory: IF titus is scum, she is not main scum. She is 3rd party. The read on her will now make sense because 3rd parties are not necessarily pro-town so much as anti-scum, and in general sway between siding with scum and town according to what gives them the maximal advantage.

    That being said, this theory works if titus is actually not town, which is about 60% for me now, but between her and blab I would rather lynch blab first. And rubicon of course. Can’t forget him.

    I said what I would about Zenzao so yeah. He remains town. I don’t think Citrus has given me enough to make my insanity arrow him yet so no comment. HOWEVER Citrus I am inclined to agree about luckylee and will definitely explain this later. Also. Scum slip is usually like, 2-3 stupid post in a short period. Atum has been going at it for… seriously 2 days and multiple posts and is not letting up despite people calling him out for it and voting him insanely. The same goes for fluffiness, but he did it less so seems more scummy, but still not… there, you know?

    I sincerely had bigger fish to deal with other than Snowvon if since people asked (and I guess Snowvon would want to know) I went back and reread posts JUST for snowvon. Love you too babe don’t sue me for neglect.

    Snowvon: First few posts fooling around, meh. Trying to test Rubicon. Rubicon strikes back a little weirdly. “all I am asking for is faith’ gives me good feels. He doesn’t try to say ‘oh I could be scum… or town.. or scum… YOU NEVER KNOW’ Like Rubicon but yet acknowledges it is way too early to get town reads. Gets one approval point. More inane joking, yadda. Then Vote BillDoor with me, etc. was a little scummy side, I called out blab for the same thing so now I was a little ticked off, but at least it was over a span of 3 mins instead of HOURS like the vote on me. Then he spends next few posts actually CONTRIBUTING, consistent with his ‘appear as protown as possible to make up for scumhunting’ not bad. GIVES REASONING FOR READS TOO. Thank you girl. In general just running around mathblade, Zenzao, fonti, ignoring the votes on him by Waco kid and another guy that I can’t remember, but you EXPLAINED WHY YOU CHANGED YOUR MIND TO ZENZAO (LOOKING AT OTHER PEOPLE HERE) and well, I don’t agree with your Zenzao vote but I explained why zenzao is town to me, no point going over it again.
    All in all: Eh. Town. No 3rd party feel either but I haven’t read a snowvon 3rd party game but yeah. Town!Snowvon.
    BACK to Mathblade

    Girl, you need to chill.
    Firstly, mafia is a game that is of course, set around the rules of players respecting each other, but in all honesty we are not obliged to read through every single post and respond to every single person. We can CHOOSE to do that with courtesy, or like billdoor he can choose to not give a fuck about my post. I am sad about that but it just means he’s damaging his play in this game. Same regarding fonti, she can choose to appear scummy by dismissing you and not responding to you. You are only accountable for your own actions here. Call her out on it and move on, because this shows you are taking it too personally. The game is about arguments within players, players like to use meta etc BUT honestly yes fontisan’s doubtcast is problematic to me and I pointed it out to her. She called my argument strawman and explained about you, I am STILL not convinced but let it go. I do feel that fonti in this case is being surprisingly UNHELPFUL in this game and sincerely doubting her dedication to town motion, dude. I feel like that’s scum!Fonti leaning but she does not have an obligation to guide players in game. Just like me giving up on making Riley a better player because Riley reads scum even when he’s town. (But I still read his posts carefully and respond to them if I agree/disagree so there’s the difference I guess) Riley, not joking here but I love you anyway.
    I won’t say I understand you. Or I am trying to buddy you. Who you are is irrelevant to me for now because I have you as town. Unless that changes rapidly, your only use to me in DAY is a) to not get lynched in place of my scum reads b) To not go after another town player and smokescreen the people I want to go after. You are doing these two things perfectly well because pursuing rubicon/fonti is ALONG my line of thought. My understanding of you stops at empathy because people call me insane all the time and disregard my reads as huge jumps in logic when I first started mafia despite me being right. Prove yourself by playing well in this game, and people MAY change their mind about you. In that regard, I will say I am definitely town, that I like your reasoning and agree with them and will use them for my arguments in posts, but as you requested you can fight your own battles against fonti.

    Kento’s 229 is scummy. Strike one, Kento Kraitos. Also, mathblade tunneling rubi and fonti at the moment. Are you trying for the distraction tactic? Because I can see where you’re coming from but she IS trying to find other scum and has been avoiding tunneling titus ALL GAME. WHAT ARE YOU TRYING TO DO HERE. ANOTHER TWO STRIKE AND YOU’RE OUT. Fair enough about your lack of time. By tone I mean you FEEL wrong. IN batmafia 2 your first post was well thought out, got me thinking you were town for a while, but after reading on and on I realized it was off to me that you first thought was again ‘mulling over power interactions’. But I’ll let that go. But blab addresses this too about you coasting. Seems like some mud sligging. You slide back down my scum scale.
    Also “I questioned Irene about Citrus because he was the only person whom had posted less than I have in the first 5(10) pages. Considering that suspicions steamed from lack of posts/post content I wanted to know her opinion on someone whom she had read nothing from yet.” Fair point here, but a) Citrus did post a pretty good post when I was writing my tl;dr, you had two senseless post. And why is your first reaction ‘what about citrus why is HE not scummy like me???’ instead of addressing ANY other people you felt were scummy as well. I do think I addressed in my post. You may disagree with them but surely at least one/two did peg your scum radar? NOT PROTOWN BEHAVIOUR. Then you try to implicate BillDoor on scumminess, without defending yourself properly but just a pithy ‘you have been making comments about me’ ‘avoided Irene’ comments.
    Strike 2.5
    “And on the topic of saying notable things, Does this mean that Rubicon, Mathblade, Titus and Blab have said nothing of note or lack there of?

    Also, Is there any reason you haven't made a note of Irene? Your reasoning is "holy shit the words". Do you not have the time to read it? From what I am aware this is a game of finding slips and connections between players through their posts. Yet you have decided to not make a comment on a player because they have too much posted.”
    1. Rubicon may be almost positive scum now but EVERYONE has different scum behavior patterns. Rubicon has definitely been giving his opinions. Just that when he gives them he isn’t consistent with them, whereas town!Rubi paints a beautiful story with a plot that I usually can follow.
    2. Mathblade has been explaining her logic. And definitely saying notable things. But does BillDoor have to address every fucking point he notes? He’s not me lol. And even I file PLENTY of notable points from Poly/Waco Kid/Riley without talking about them. It’s called making note at the back of your mind.
    3. BillDoor does need to make a comment on my post but eh, if he doesn’t he appears scummy at his own risk. Given that he’s almost confirmed town in my books I do think it doesn’t do him harm. You may feel that makes him scummy, which is not scummy in itself, but your last post DEFINITELY makes you scummy.
    Strike 3. CONGRATU-FUCKING-LATIONS YOU WIN THE AWARD FOR SCUM AFTER BLAB/RUBICON. YOU HAVE OFFICIALLY DISPLACED FONTI.
    I addressed Rubi/fonti so I’ll just say I disagree about Poly. I get notable things but he’s not on my scum list. And my list is long enough as it is.
    NOW: fontisian #252
    Basically the reasoning I told Mathblade. I agree with you. But to address Blab/Rubicon: I will definitely do so.

    But about the fluffiness thing: Lol, I’m advocating backing off fluff because I don’t WANT to lynch somebody who is scummy to me but not NEARLY as scummy as Blab/Rubicon. Because unlike fluffiness, Blab and Rubicon as scum is DEFINITELY more dangerous and I also believe I DEFINITELY have more reason to call them scum more. I don’t understand why I have to keep repeating this. But I see blab, lucky and you on the same bandwagon as very off given that at that point it felt like ‘well, there’s definitely at least 1 scum, or even all three are??? But scum isn’t that stupid. 2 scum?’ Then I understood once I pegged blab as third party.

    The same reason applies to not lynching you. I said, you are not at the threshold of ‘holy shit she is so obviously scum (80%) that the risks of her being town is no longer outweighed’. Blab’s threshold has been crossed long time. Rubicon’s threshold is also at 80% but he is scummier than you. I am still watching you.

    “Can you also explain how your assessment of my reads of Fluff and Math was so far off the mark?” Because TO ME you calling fluff scum makes him idiotic, because ‘people panic and fuck up’ yes, but not over SUCH a long stretch. That was my reasoning for Atum as well. And I liked how he handled pressure, so I thought in order to call him scum you had to either a) Ignore all the signs of him just appearing more and more scummy with zero realization b) believe he is actually stupid. Again, we are not convincing each other because our line of reasoning isn’t the same at the start. I flew off the handle about Mathblade because how you treat her reminds me of how scum (Kaidash, Fen and Fiat) tried to discredit me in lesstiny, but here it felt pre-emptive. I didn’t really notice tension between you and Mathblade in the threads I read so I assumed that was what you were trying to do here. I am still getting that feel so again, YOU are not off my list.

    blab #253
    I would have continued poking Rubi. I thought you did well up to that point, then you felt a little off, but people make mistakes amirite?
    I believed your vote for me to be scummy because I read it as ‘oh here is a helpful soul let’s vote her out of principle’ which I disliked. Besides, if you’re talking about being superficially helpful I can also say that hey, it was a joke too!
    Better than that because from meta you… you did the same thing witch-hunt 4 as scum, throwing short questions everywhere, acting flippant, but I don’t think you’ve ever been 3rd party so I had no point of reference, put you down as possible main scum for then. And even if you believe that, after what I posted there were tons of other interactions and you could have just unvoted and waited, but you carried on voting for me over a singular post. Was it a ‘safe’ thing to do because I wasn’t there to respond to it or poke you about it, and switching would draw attention to yourself? Well.

    So, does that actually match up with your experience, i.e. that scum actually distance themselves from town by choice of words?” Yes. And I am not going to go around quoting every thread I drew my meta from. But I said weak point.
    I already addressed what I thought your motivation was in voting me. You didn’t want to switch votes, I wasn’t there to poke you, it was safe. I considered it hounding because after MUTIPLE posts about other topics and HOURS apart you come RIGHT back to your vote on me without me doing a single thing.

    #255
    I agree with you about luckylee. Also, anti-scum because you see to be rather concerned with weeding them out (Pressuring fluffiness, which I agreed with initially, but it crossed a point where I was pretty sure fluffiness was town and you carried on, as if you didn’t really care whether he was town or not as long as you get to lynch somebody. Also, you poking rubicon. Helped me a lot with rubicon’s scum read. Given the context of my rubi/fonti AND now Kento read, you were either bussing from the first post? (Which if you were, felt like you could go all the way and not switch targets/vote for me when you were asking about Rubicon). So rubi is scum, you aren’t town. Not scumbuddies. That makes you third party.

    [MENTION]Bill Door[/USER]:Yes, but consistent stupidity despite potentially drawing like, 5/6 people to vote for him (Which may probably start a bandwagon) is just… yeah. No. I don’t believe it. Rule one of mafia: EVERYONE can be stupid, and the MOST often act of stupidity is TOWN acting scummy in day one lynch causing MISLYNCH. SAVVY? Ok.

    Blab #260
    Again, reasonable. Similar read on Polysemous. Thank you for giving me more insight in your thoughts. And Lucky. Again, seems like you are not anti-town, but yet not fully protown. I do think I’m good with my 3rd party guess, thanks.

    Blab #265
    The read about fonti and me: seems reasonable. Again, getting anti-scum ‘I will take her down with me’ vibe instead of a more pro-town. Don’t ask me how I think you should have phrased it because everyone has different phrasing, I just think yours is off.
    Also ‘ignoring of the possibility that I could be scum’ ??? Again, why is your phrasing so off?
    Actually interesting theory about Lucky. Will go into this later.
    Disagree about Waco Kid. “Also it's so generic, that I actually think he put 0 thought into whom he would ask about who.” I think scum has a tendency to be more careful about these things…. Really. But that’s not a major point of contention.
    “Survivor/Souper: Rubicon/Luckylee

    his fluffiness/Irene/Atum/someone lurking let's say Kento”

    Rubicon/luckylee ticks off as scum to me. Lol about Atum, fluffiness and me. Kento I are scum too. And really? Don’t see anything that makes that improbable? How about defending what that’s probable??? Really not helping your case here. Why are you going around throwing accusations without backing them up? Hardly pro-town behavior. What link does me, fluffiness and Atum have besides me thinking they are both scum? I explained exactly why, you may disagree with me but honestly the grasping at straws thing is again..

    Titus Yeah… I buy it. Kinda. But still feels off. I will hold off you for now because even if you are 3rd party (I don’t think you’re main scum, and thank you for not trying to distract people, but I do think sorting relationships shouldn’t be left for too late.) I am not fully a meta player, but also Witchhunt 4. You don’t that similarly to the two scum!Titus yet but you’re not playing fully town either, so I… will not push it but you are on my list. That being said, I think you’re a little like fonti. The possibility of you being scum is not big enough for me to ignore you potential contribution to town yet. It’s a complicated scale, I know.

    Also ah Rubicon #284
    “ I want my suspects lynched from day one. That means staying focused and explaining my reads.” So do I. Which I feel you didn’t do. Staying focused and explaining your reads, that is. You do it sometimes,. You could *try* to attract a lot of aggression by claiming a PR but everyone expects that from you now? Well when you did that as town in Brass and Tax, and you were actually a power role. Are you trying to subtly role slip you’re PR here? Cause all I see is you role-slipping you’re not town.

    “As for the rest, maybe. You're basically proposing that blab's mindset is in fact looking for scum, just in another faction. So even when I say something that's hard for him to answer and maybe makes him squirm on the spot, he still manages to consider my alignment.” Yes to that. Ala you are both not town. At any rate, I think we should lynch blab and find out. Assuming you believe my read. 1) 3rd party gone is better for BOTH town and scum, so if you’re either… well. Also, if I can’t lynch blab I am pretty sure I will switch to voting for you along with Mathblade and Zenzao. And if I’m wrong about blab… hey, I should be wrong about all of you too! Town stops believing me and whee you get off the hook.

    I already addressed Atum point in multiple posts and I am too tired to address it again. But because I respect you deeply as a very good player rubicon darling I will do it once more. 1. No, it’s not the same as his batmafia post. But that doesn’t mean he is scum because I honestly don’t think his argument against Zenzao was serious about the 1st post. It was after Zenzao singled him out that Atum started getting into this, and said fuck it and antagonized Bill Door. In this entire sequence of event Atum had multiple chances to redeem himself and he just kept going and going, which is honestly not consistent with the profile of a scum, ESPECIALLY since YOU also say atum is not an idiot. See, if I put myself into scum!Atum mindset his logic would have to be a lot more idiotic to jusify his posts. I can see town!Atum being like that either because he has an agenda as town power role or because he genuinely believes this argument will draw scum out and he can get reads from that.

    Now that luckylee has been kind enough to give me reads on him:

    Hello there derpyscum Luckylee.

    Let me show you the way.


    First few posts were typical lucky. Joking around, making retarded random posts, beating around the bush and not contributing.
    Then he randomly throw zz atum and fluffy and questions titus without giving any indication of it. Fair enough, people say luckylee has improved. Hooooray?
    Then “I retired from hammering needlessly” ??? You say that but you just decided to zone in on titus, asking really seeming random question, get kinda pointless answers, and give pointless responses? Okay. Resume unlogical lucky. A little forced at this point but hey, MAYBE HE IS SUPER SMART AND TRYING TO NOT GETTING NK.

    Well. Then the fluffiness exchange occurs. Random lucky bounces around making jokes, totally ignoring fluffiness or blab, then tries the serious lucky thing again “Atum is playing weirdly scummy, and he's using the same color as Fluffy. Highly probable scum.

    Fonti hasn't posted since forever, but her opening was just random rvs. I'll wait for more till I judge her.

    Rubi hasn't posted much serious either, do you have thoughts on this, Waco?”

    He singles out 3 random people just to go ‘see I am contributing’ and COMPLETELY neglects to give opinions on conversation concerning him??? And random throw at Waco??? Then joke post on fluffiness again. I agree with blab about lucky.

    Then when it seems like the CONSENSUS is that atum, fluffy are scum he jumps in with his FIRST decent length post, STILL with pointless analysis that contributes nothing much, enough to let people know YES I HAVE OPINIONS AND SHIT so that he doesn’t implicate himself??? This change. Was off. So I said ‘you’re off my hook for now’ and waited for more.
    Also, you reread the thread. What do you want, a cookie? What does this post contribute? You weren’t contributing before or in the middle of an argument. You will not be missed in anything.

    And latest post: STILL NOT GIVING ANYTHING PROTOWN OR TRYING TO CONTRIBUTE TO DISCUSSION, ONLY RESPONSE TO ME WAS ‘HEY I DID POKE’ AND NOTHING ELSE.

    CLAPS.

    I think we have scum #4 thank you.

    So my conclusion is:
    Scum team: Rubicon=Kento>Luckylee>>Fontisan because Fonti is still a little more mixed

    Scum possibly 3rd party: a bit more fluffiness, and um, possibility of Polysemous?

    Definitely not scum but possibility of 3rd party (Aka townish but not definite): Citrus and Titus and Snowvon, Waco Kid and dare I say it? Riley. Oh god. I just put Riley as townish. THIS IS A REVELATION~!

    Definitely 3rd party: Blab. Not idea if he’s soup or survivor.

    Definitely town: Me, Zenzao, Mathblade, BillDoor, Atum,

    If I should die tonight town please avenge me kthx. My killer is definitely among Kento, Rubi or Luckylee.


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    Sorry quote no work for Citrus MathBlade Snowvon
     
  12. Titus

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    Irene, Def town on Z? Really
     
  13. MathBlade

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    Quick post since I was reading backwards. Haven't gotten back to my last post.

    If you think 4 scum in Rubicon/Kento/Lucky Lee/Fontisian why aren't you voting there? Why are you going after who you perceive to be third party?

    About Fonti I may have taken it a bit personally I was trying to model my responses similar to those on Fantasy Strike where they taught me not to do that. Was it overboard possibly? However the point was at least clear which is what I was going for. So am I sorry a little but not that much.

    Vote: Rubicon

    Still making my way backwards later this evening.
     
  14. Irene

    Irene Seventh Year DLP Supporter Retired Staff DLP Gold Supporter

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    Quick reply before I sleep: Because to me the third party is infinitely more dangerous. If Allocen is alive, we can have as many as 5 townies die in a single day. If Azrael is alive, well, we eliminate a wincon where Azrael wins> town. At any rate, the possibility of blab being Allocen makes me unwilling to discount.

    I did mention clearly that I think Rubicon the one I will switch vote to if I think don't anyone else is with me about lynching blab, but currently my vote remains on blab to indicate my point and it's not anywhere near Night yet so there is no rush to get numbers on a lynch vote, not when a lot of people have yet to post what they think/say they may or may not be convinced.

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    Sorry I mean if blab is Azrael, we eliminate a wincon completely. If he's Allocen, even better. Brainfart at 1.30am.

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    Titus I explained my reasoning about Zenzao in my first tl;dr. I said 'almost certain' and his further posts now have not convinced me that he became scummier in his response. If you think the choice of 'definitely' is problematic I mean: Unless something in the person's post makes me pause and change my mind, he is town. I of course can't predict what he posts in the future that may or may not change my mind.
     
  15. Bill Door

    Bill Door The Chosen One DLP Supporter

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    A worryingly large amount of people are worryingly sure about townreads considering we're like 30% into D1.
     
  16. Citrus

    Citrus First Year

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    FYI, as I said in signups, I'm basically going to be gone today (most likely) + tmrw.

    Be back tuesday
     
  17. Vaimes

    Vaimes Fifth Year

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    Hi! I see I have four notifications. I feel loved.

    Catching up on homework and junk, ETA is Tuesday afternoon.
     
  18. Aerylife

    Aerylife Not Equal

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    Irene, I feel like you just keep missing post I make as you post about me. I scum hunt in my own strange manner, I make jokes and references to past games because it amuses me. Mafia would be exceedingly boring to me otherwise if I only ever took it seriously.
     
  19. Irene

    Irene Seventh Year DLP Supporter Retired Staff DLP Gold Supporter

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    I am sorry that I neglected that post Luckylee because I literally did NOT see ANYTHING there that would change my mind beyond: "Hey Snowvon hasn't said anything and I don't want to engage seriously about anyone else so let's throw questions at him/her! And while we're at it ask for random opinions on different people and hope she/he gives stuff that people will respond to and forget about me.'

    Yeah... no. And who on earth is senpai?
     
  20. Rubicon

    Rubicon High Inquisitor DLP Supporter

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    ...How in the world did you get that out of what I said. :confused:

    I feel pretty focused.
    And I remember talking about my reads. So.

    Or I could just keep doing what I've been doing and you guys can decide whether you want to vote me for it.

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    What's up Atum.