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Endgames: Masquerade Ball

Discussion in 'Little Italy' started by Sloth, Feb 5, 2015.

  1. Aerylife

    Aerylife Not Equal

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    As to Rubicon, I honestly hadn't seen a single one of his post, maybe because most the first pages we're fluff and I was skimming, of it was fluff and I'm not used to that from him, but then I realized "fuck he's actually posting a lot, oops". So I've got a town read on him.

    BillDoor gets a pass for now, because I'm pretty sure Atum is scum and I doubt they're aligned.

    I'm still waiting on Snowvonnyvon to answer my questions.

    I can't see Atum/Billdoor being on a scumteam considering how they fought each other.

    I can't see Fluffy/Fonti on a scum team considering how they voted each other.

    Von and Kento are lurking, but could fit into any of these pairs due to that. Which is why I'd like Von to answer my questions.

    Lynch Vote Fontisian

    Fonti is my highest scum read atm, with Atum as number 2 and Kento/Von possibly being aligned with them. I don't see Fluffy being on a scum team with Fonti, but his early actions still have me confused. I'm gonna assume he's town unless I'm wrong about Fonti.

    Btw where is Riley?
     
  2. Vaimes

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    Hey Lucky, friendly reminder that V/LA =/= lurking.

    Hey Math, you're doing that thing you scumread me for in Batmafia.

    Hey Irene, I was going to call you the Queen of Hypocrites but blab beat me to it.

    I've been skimming so I can have an idea of what I want to respond to and in what order. I'll post-post in a few hours, after my last class.
     
  3. Aerylife

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    Yay. Ttyl Von~
     
  4. MathBlade

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    blab -- I believe Fonti is scum.
    The first thing that made me suspicious is the cross talk.
    The second thing was about Bill Door instead of clarifying what she said she leaves it up to interpretation again. For someone that she is strongly town reading there is no point in confusing them that much.
    The third thing that made me suspicious is the trying to doubtcast me when I suggested her and Rubicon instead of just countering the point.
    The fourth thing that made me think she was scum another instance of cross talk over deciding who to lynch (or probably mislynch in his fluff/Atum).
    The fifth thing is that she continues to poke at the me/Irene thing when I asked her not to to the point where the last few posts don't seem to be investigating reads for and doesn't even attempt to do a PC sorry if it comes off like that. Instead she suggests it's wrong for me to have these feelings. Hell that right there makes me want to policy lynch her but I'm trying to avoid it and poke at Rubicon and hoping I'll chill the fuck out.

    Where did Kento commit to scum!lurking exactly? :$ I missed that.

    I don't perceive them butting heads, Fonti for all her dissing of my play, is a pretty rabid competitor and for her to switch off fluff like that feels wrong. It's like the last few posts she is bitching at Irene for a reason to switch to Irene rather than actually believing Irene is scum she seems just annoyed. Tbh if Irene is scum I don't care at this point because Irene doesn't seem like scum to me and the only person seeming to try to sell that is Fontisian and you from what I see. If I missed someone let me know please.

    I also hate to echo Lucky Lee but I agree with their comments on Fonti's reads being weird. :/ He just said it more succinctly than I have when I have tried to explain it two to three times already.

    @Waco Kid -- 190 was a general poke for you not to question dodge. Saying you would wait on my questions felt strategic and kinda lead me to think you thought it was okay based on Fonti's opening like you could just wait it out. Hence my annoyedness. You're new and answered some of them but I in general would like people to either answer questions, do blatant trolling, or just say why it is anti-town to answer the question. Anywho maybe I'm limited because that's what I expect. It was more that you thought that was okay because of what the prior play was.
    Snowvon -- I scumread you for a lot of different reasons. That's kinda vague don't really know how to respond to your post other than, please clarify? If I had to guess it's for not posting useful stuff but I won't give you a town read until you're actually helping town. The best I can do is like most people mention I have better suspects today.
    Luckylee -- While I'm more than willing to lynch Fontisian based on my argument above. I'd rather lynch Rubicon first. I'm trying to ignore that to give both people a chance to just play the game.
     
  5. Fluffiness

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    Can you explain what you mean in the bolded section?
     
  6. MathBlade

    MathBlade First Year

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    You can be town now. :)
     
  7. Titus

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    Yes. IfI said someone would make a good wagon, that means I am scumreading them.
     
  8. MathBlade

    MathBlade First Year

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    his fluffiness -- She's sticking to her troll game. While I knew the question was useless because she said she was trolling I applaud you trying.
     
  9. Fluffiness

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    Hmm. It sounded like you were scum reading people because they would be good wagons, and not the other way around. Can you tell me your top 4 scum reads?
     
  10. Vaimes

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    MathBlade, I meant dismissing all of my posts as empty when they are very clearly not. I'm attempting to walk a line between joking around and being serious because at the end of the day, this is a game I am playing for fun. The fluff in between my actual opinions doesn't automatically invalidate the post, which is the implication I keep getting from your accusations.
     
  11. MathBlade

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    I'm sorry that's not how I meant it. :$ I just couldn't find your opinions. I'll reread this later on today/tomorrow. :$
     
  12. fontisian

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  13. MathBlade

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    fontisian -- I did read it before and I was unconvinced things were how you portrayed them and I don't care even if you are right. Secondly that entire posts feels like you are trying to direct attention ANYWHERE but yourself. You FoS'd three people during that post and I have a hard time believing that Zenzao and Irene are together when you don't even pitch them together in your prior post. If I follow pronouns correctly the "he" about strong play is Kento.

    Your prior vote which you still believe had Kento in it. This would make your scum team Kento, his fluff, Zenzao, and Irene.

    Not only that but you pressure Rubicon in 311 and then drop it when he posts something that is downright sketchy without an explanation of if you are satisfied further implying coalignment.

    It's also worth noting that you are scum reading Zenzao who is scumreading Rubicon. Another coincidence? Hmmmm

    And scumreading his fluff who is being read as town ...another coincidence?

    I believe Fonti is searching for mislynches. Tbh if Irene gets close to hammer I may hammer because she might be Allocen but I have no reason to think she'd be group scum at this point.

    However for Fonti's points I will discuss them even though I believe some of them are blatant misrep.

    1. I don't really find her defense bizarre sorry. :/
    2. Why didn't you state post numbers or quote them if this is true? You've been known to quote people when they lie. I have read through those walls a lot and am not interested in hunting through them for minutia. I got the gist of them. If you wish to demonstrate the minutia to make your point bring it forward.
    3. On this one if she was trying to make you look insane she failed. You don't look insane. You look like flailing scum because of your own posts.
    4. Well if 50% accuracy rate is her worst game, what happens if she's town? That's almost a reason to pressure her out of the gate if she's that good and figure out her alignment. (I have no idea what the stats are for Irene so for all intents and purposes I've been treating her as an experienced unknown quantity.) Yet you did not until she starts fingering you. Regardless of her alignment, this makes you more scummy for not attacking Irene until she suspected you.
    5. I'd buy her flipping out here because I don't rate people as strong/not strong I rate them as active/dominating because everyone has good days and off days. Rubicon/you tend to dominate games a lot if left alive in them so I want to figure out your alignment sooner. Also stating she's flipping out indicates a lack of control over her posts, yet framing her posts to make you sound insane indicates a control over her posts. IMO I don't think it can be both.
    6. Self-conscious is an opinion and I don't see it.

    1. Yes.
    2. Exactly what it says. And no, it is not thoroughly me being in the tunnel. Hell I'd seriously debate policy lynching you with mod confirmed town I'm that annoyed/disappointed/no words to describe what I feel right now.
    3. Who is you here? What are you referring to as straw man?
     
  14. Titus

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    Zenazo Rubicon are my two scumreads. Then it just gets down to lynching people because I'm annoyed with them and cannot be bothered to sort them yet until I see what they are flipping out about. That's Fonti/Irene/Blab.

    No touchy Math. She seems townie here. Sisterly reasons. Math will not be lynched as long as I'm alive barring a ridiculous level scumclaim IMO.

    Atum is has a total lack of editing to his posts that tends to come from town. He says I'm probably town but has me as null in the same post. If Atum were scum, he expect I'd jump on his ass for that as scum, so I'd expect more manufacturing. Doubly so because he's manufactured as scum.

    Von's defensiveness gives me cause for concern, but it's not a fullblown scumread.

    Zenazo is scum because of the reasons I've elucidated already and the OMGUS.

    Rubicon just doesn't give me the town feels this game IMO. We also haven't had significant conflict either. Usually one or the other happens if we're both town...

    If I was voting, you should consider my vote on Z. I'm not though bc I have hammer.
     
  15. blab

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    Jesus Christ. Just apologize IF you implied the thing that said you never actually implied that Mathblade took offense to.
     
  16. MathBlade

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    Sorry my post cut off. The below list is from post 304

    Fontisian
    Atum
    Bill Door
    Zenzao
    Citrus
    Snowvon
    Blab Riley
    Polysemous
    Irene
    Mathblade
    Kento Kraitos
    The Waco Kid
    Titus
    Rubicon
    Luckylee
    his fluffiness




    For your team to even begin to be plausible Fonti it'd need to have Lucky Lee, Rubicon, or Titus somewhere in it. However your four people in that post are no where NEAR that. It's like go poke anywhere else. And of course you don't understand the question because you tbh feel like you can't keep your arguments straight anymore.

    @All -- A Titus townread of me feels weird...:/ I'm glad for once she got it right. However I do have to consider this is a troll game but hey maybe Titus's read Math o dometer may get recalibrated.
     
  17. Titus

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    Sis, we should totally do twin telepathy throughout the thread. I'll say something, you bounce back but we totally use our twin language so no one gets it but us. It'll help you read me worst case and troll the scums. :p
     
  18. MathBlade

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    Uhm no. That to me would be cheating if we had a language sorry. And we don't have a twin language anyway. We have English.

    The best thing we can do to catch the scums is either pressure Rubicon or figure out if I'm wrong on him quickly. He definitely needs more pressure so I can figure out if my reads are right.
     
  19. Titus

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    Alright, go ahead. Do what you want. Just know I got your back if you press your luck at day.

    Consider my troll position on Rubicon.
     
  20. MathBlade

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    Consider me confused. No idea how to respond to that Titus.
    Rubicon -- It would be lovely if you'd post your thoughts on the thread so far.

    ---------- Post automerged at 13:57 ---------- Previous post was at 13:53 ----------

    Like I want to believe you'd have my back but I ugh...This just feels so WRONG.