Where did waco say that he scum read you because you scum read him, because I can see a fairly long post with reasoning where he votes for you. And what changed to make Rubicon a more important target for your vote than "definitely scum" Waco?

 

@Math, What do we think of Riley?

 

I think my own thoughts. Whatever you think of Riley is what you do.

Riley is either group scum buddying me in some reads or town. I don't see him being 3p.

I would much rather lynch Rubicon or Polysemous today as I am more sure of them than my Riley read.

 

I'm not sure I understand this. Can you clarify what you mean by group scum buddying.

Can you pick just one at this moment? I'm curious who you'd choose.

 

I define buddying as when scum agrees with your reads or is very "yes,yes you're right" to try to butter you up. It isn't really much of a case though as a lot of people are actually agreeing with me but I am pretty sure someone agreeing with me on some things are scum but it is a hodge podge. This is weird being town read correctly by everyone.

What I want in my heart is Rubicon, logically should be Polysemous on paper. The way most people ignored (not all) my asking about a Rubicon/Fonti team makes me say gun to my head Rubicon but lynching either would be good IMO.

 

Ah, thank you for the clarification. Also, nope. Sorry to burst your bubble but I'm not that stupid. I have no reason to try and buddy someone, I'm town. That's all there is too it.

Can you link me or direct me to where you indicated you rubi/fonti team read? Did you just ask or were you putting forward suspicions, i fear I might have glossed over it in Read-Wall Valley.

 

That's been a hypothesis all game. There were two points of potential cross talk and
I asked for recalibration if needed in (337) not quoting whole post as it is too long.

@Everyone -- Same question
What do you think of a Rubicon/Fonti scum team?
If any of you are town reading them -- why with posts please either numbers or quotes.


Also from 344 summarizes the majority of the argument
@blab -- I believe Fonti is scum.
The first thing that made me suspicious is the cross talk.
The second thing was about Bill Door instead of clarifying what she said she leaves it up to interpretation again. For someone that she is strongly town reading there is no point in confusing them that much.
The third thing that made me suspicious is the trying to doubtcast me when I suggested her and Rubicon instead of just countering the point.
The fourth thing that made me think she was scum another instance of cross talk over deciding who to lynch (or probably mislynch in his fluff/Atum).
The fifth thing is that she continues to poke at the me/Irene thing when I asked her not to to the point where the last few posts don't seem to be investigating reads for and doesn't even attempt to do a PC sorry if it comes off like that. Instead she suggests it's wrong for me to have these feelings. Hell that right there makes me want to policy lynch her but I'm trying to avoid it and poke at Rubicon and hoping I'll chill the fuck out.

So yes, I'm thinking Rubicon/Fonti/Poly with all three having a vote/FoS right now and if wagons start on any of them count me as a vote.

Oh my bubble isn't burst like I said you are probably town just someone is probably doing it.

 

@Math, find scum, then worry about teams. I slipped so long in Batmafia because I did not make sense as part of a team

 

I find potential teams. It's how I found you and Mala. I appreciate how you hunt, but I will hunt in my own way. This allows me more information when a flip occurs, e.g. If X flips town then Y,Z,A likely scum or if X flips scum then Y,Z,A likely town and B,C,D likely buddies.

I have FoS's on these three and until they convince me they are town the FoS's stay.

 

@Math FoS?

 

Finger of Suspicion. You're suspicious of someone, but not enough to vote them yet.

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I think.

/meow

 

Ahh, gotcha, thanks!

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I suppose (ninja'd)

 

Math, stop making me do this.

"Cross talk" being a term for Rubicon asking me to run up Zenzao and me politely telling him to fuck off.

Reasonably sure this never happened.

Also never happened, unless you consider "It's wrong" followed by an explanation to not be countering the point.

1. This assumes there's not scumchat.
2. It also assumes Rubicon and are completely incapable of working together as scum without scumchat without openly talking, which is frankly, insulting.
3. Rubicon was voting an obvious townie and his linkage to Irene's reads was both wrong and weird. And you're upset that I pushed for more.

Again, wrong. My posts are a case against Irene, which I later summarized.

If you want to be taken seriously, stop posting things that are wrong. Check your work.

Titus: The initial claim from that Irene that fluff was town was in post 228, It was followed up by post 245, where she agrees with my assessment of her putting Fluff as a light town read.

In post 329, after being called out on being overly defensive of fluff, she claims to have called him scummy multiple times.

 

Slight clarification.
FoS -- Right abbreviation

However doesn't necessarily imply the strength of read. I'm willing to vote for any of those FoS's up there but just because you have an FoS doesn't mean it's strong enough to vote or it might be.

Response to fontisian in the quote.

TDLR: Fonti just says I'm wrong over and over without posts justifying or any actual evidence. Therefore I am reading this as I'm right and Fonti wants me to shut the hell up about it.

 

Math, would you mind not making you posts more difficult to quote?

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No, I basically told him to fuck off. This is a tone thing. You'll note that blab backed me up on it.

Also, what? Why would scum ever do that?

You mean when I pushed Bill Door after he was slightly self-conscious to see if the trend would continue, before I had a strong townread on him? I do things for a reason, Math.

1. You literally just said my point back at me, with the addendum of "but it can happen without day chat! Totally!"
2. You didn't actually say anything here.
3. Again, not addressing my point. You claimed to scumread me because I continued to push Irene after you asked us to stop. My counter is "why the fuck would I stop pushing potential scum?"

Again, I am not going to stop pushing a scumread because you asked me to. Nor am I going to refrain from pointing out hypocrisy. Why should I?

Do you have any non objectively wrong points? No? Then we're done here.

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Oops, forgot this:

Yeah. Enough.

Let's go over the sequence of events. You make a case against me that is blatantly wrong, as per usual. I ignore it, because I'm not in the business of addressing obviously wrong cases against me unless I'm making a point and it's not even addressed to me, anyway.

You finally openly ask me to respond. I reply with:

Irene then makes some surprising wrong accusations:

So I decide to address it:

If you look at the context of the discussion, you can tell that I am explaining why I don't normal address Mathblade's cases against me, unless specifically asked to. Irene proceeds to take it out of context, claim that an inability to read tone is equivalent to stupidity, claim that I am putting people downm and accuse me of being an asshole while being one herself:

And that, by the way, is a major reason Irene is scum. She took a single statement out of my lack of concern over a bad case against me and my reason for not scumreading me over it, and expanded it into something huge and wrong, while trying to push you and fluff into thinking I'd insulted you.

Irene is scum. Get out of the tunnel.

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The last paragraph should read: "for not scumreading you over it."

 

Blaaahhh blaaah blaaahhh

Out for the night. Good luck.

 

Irene
MathBlade (meta)
Snowvon (meta)
Bill Door (atum focus makes sense given his past town games)
Titus (this is not groupscum Titus at least)
Riley (weak meta read)
Zenzao (weak meta read)
------ line of lynchability ------
Citrus
His fluffiness
Fontisian
The Waco Kid
Kento Kraitos
Luckylee
Blab
Polysemous
Atum

People below the line are people I will vote today.

That was me drawing Atum out because I saw him lurking the thread and he still hadn't answered my last question asking him for reads on a list of names. We had a little back and forth after that too.

Well, imagine hypothetically that I were scum. How would asking Atum to post something (his reads) help me set up him for a mislynch?

Explain?

I have a specific way I like to scumhunt, and it works. If what I'm doing makes me seem scummy, then so be it. I don't intend to change something that works just because some people don't agree with it or someone threatens to vote me.

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Also, this is a not-reading-the-thread slip.

So is this.

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I won't be especially surprised if it turns out fonti is scum and she believes Irene is a threat she needs to eliminate as soon as possible.

 

Hey. Rubicon.

Why is Irene your strongest townread?

 

I think you're assuming malice where there is actually just Irene doing Irene things.

 

1. Why?
2. Why does that make her town?