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Endgames: Masquerade Ball

Discussion in 'Little Italy' started by Sloth, Feb 5, 2015.

  1. fontisian

    fontisian Slug Club Member

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    I didn't? That's my point.
     
  2. H_A_Greene

    H_A_Greene Unspeakable –§ Prestigious §– DLP Supporter

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    So Titus is 'confirming' as 3p, of which we have two - one of which, Allocen, she could play extremely well given her ability to read players in Batmafia 2 - and we're letting her pass on that. Given that one of those abilities would allow her to instantly suss out town from Scum from other 3p, coupled with her own capacity for nailing roles, no one else is bothered?

    Ffs. Scum are sure-kill every night unless correctly blocked, Allocen is potential 4-kill if they guess right.

    And let me bring up something from the OP on the Scum roles that I just noticed while checking again.

    Bold and underlined for meaning. All this Bahamut Eclipse crap. Anyone else notice that? And while part of me is saying that Titus wouldn't make that kind of mistake in crumbing, the other part is saying, yes, she might very well for the fact that it would be beyond stupid to do so and therefore beyond serious suspicion.


    I don't even know at this point. Plain and simple, I do not trust Titus. I will not be able to trust her until we have lynched Allocen and Scum :|


    I still want to vote Rubicon for earlier behavior but this... mfw.

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    EBWOP: When I say block, I'm referring to redirect back upon themselves.
     
  3. MathBlade

    MathBlade First Year

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    Bloody hell Rubicon -- Yes I am not calling RL fake. I am saying I am annoyed when you look for certain posts specifically to make arguments but then are too busy to respond to one sentence and then when you do it feels lackluster.

    The Rubicon/Fonti argument is horribly timed/convient.

    Tell me when did you two start scum reading each other?
    The above is
    Rubicon
    @Fonti

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    fontisian sigh I forgot phone doesn't autocomplete your name.
     
  4. Titus

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    @Z, you don't need to trust me. I have given about 700 crumbs as to what I do and the closest analogy is the opposite of what you are thinking sweetcheeks.
     
  5. Rubicon

    Rubicon High Inquisitor DLP Supporter

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    Math, your question to me was like two pages after the stuff I commented on.

    #457 is where I started thinking fonti was off, though it's more the fact that she's suddenly voting me that I'm bothered by.

    The first sentence is what I do every game. I don't find myself in this position often enough to have a citation for the second half, though.

    Which part are you saying you object to then?

    Titus is not crumbing D'Xias.

    (Sweetcheeks)

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    Bill, are you open to a Polysemous lynch?
     
  6. dhulli

    dhulli The Reborn

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    Here you go Waco. I've gone through all your posts accusing me of something or the other.

    Err I'd like to think my reads are helpful for town. See my post on Riley who was also obsessed with 3p at the start. I think we both shared the same idea of how a third party would act. So naturally gestated towards 3p accusations when links between scum were not so obvious.

    Also FALSE on the Atum thing. I called town!Atum in #157 right after the Bill/Atum bustup. In fact, I was the very first to do so.

    I likely!scum read Bill because of his tunnel vision on Atum who I thought was obv!town.
    Then I likely!town read him based off of Irene's post.
    Then I had some doubts about trusting Irene too much after Fonti's post.
    And finally Bill posted more and satisfied my worries about him. I consider him in the "Very Likely Town" category now.

    Gave the reason above.

    It's Day 1. I've townfirmed Atum and Riley both. I've scum read you. I've likely scum read Rubicon. I've likely scum read fluffy. This is what genuine scumhunting looks like when you don't know other people's roles Waco. And sometimes people make posts that make you go back and forth on your reads. This is, after all, Day 1.

    I have no read on Lucky Lee, I cannot for the life of me remember a single post from him. Do you want me to analyze his posts? Why not ask me what I think about Lucky Lee?

    I've done 6 people at this point. If you want me to analyze someone, try asking me what I think of them.

    The browsing but not posting is a weak point. I've explained my reasons.
    I don't know what doubt-casting means.

    I'm reading Riley is town. Maybe this is not the best approach to just post how your thought process goes when analyzing someone. I figure if town can see how I come to the conclusions I do, they can help me by pointing out mistakes I made or we can have a discussion about things. Or alternatively, they can lean the way I do by being convinced of what I say.

    You're clever scum waco. You're avoiding anything too difficult. Lucky Lee isn't posting much, Rubicon is just a good everyone sorta thinks he's scummy. This is precisely what you're accusing me of but at least I presented a case against him but you get to just group him with me and Lucky. and then finally you're coming up with flimsy reasons, calling me "flailing!scum" because I flipped on my Bill reads despite giving reasons for my change of mind. This is all just a very convenient scum team isn't it.
     
  7. Irene

    Irene Seventh Year DLP Supporter Retired Staff DLP Gold Supporter

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    Rubicon #694
    Well that was actually very well done. This is the rubicon I miss and love/fear depending on alignment. I was worried for a while thinking someone impersonated you or something. And I absolutely agree with you, once the countdown starts 24 hour I will start mentioning the non-voters in my every post. :\
    BUT
    Rubicon #698
    “what’s your polysemous read” and “So vote him” smells of ‘I’m getting lynched so please look at the other guy getting voted on and lynch him instead’ It reeks of that and... now from the last two posts I neither feel better nor worse about you.
    #699
    I don’t have that much meta on blab but I would agree on the impression that he’s trying not to poke you too hard, he poked me pretty hard but I was calling him scummy way beforehand so I’m not sure if that lets him off the hook. However, he has not been posting, which means it is hard to get enough evidence now to lynch him?
    #705
    God reading your posts are like a roller coaster. I think fonti and I have the same conclusion that Titus isn’t Allocen if she’s 3rd party but I agree with fontisian in post #705. Back to level Not-Moving-my-ass-to-switch-votes.
    #707
    The entire post gives me positive feels until the end about ‘when I flip town, people know exactly what happened’ which feels oddly defensive compared to the tone you have been going for so I’ll file that away.

    fontisian I would like a response to my mention about ‘Titus being 3rd party open secret’ I know why it feels like that to me but what is your reasoning? Thank you.

    I also agree with Citrus in #711 and #713 regarding fonti/Rubi. Titus I already stated feel like she 3rd party and haven’t been made to change my mind yet, might depending on the role flip on death from Day One. But in #716 “which may be your goal to make scum pushing you look more obvious, but meh” Uh I don’t see town!Rubicon doing that? I feel town!Rubicon should know that town!Rubicon is most beneficial to town not as a vote analysis plushtoy that was mislynched but rather be sticking around late game to help town with finding out scummies, so I don’t find this town!Rubi thought process. So that and your point about witchhunt game in #720 doesn’t feel like town!Rubicon to me

    Back to Rubicon #717
    I just said this but this ‘Make sure people on my wagon are held accountable when I am mislynched’ and ‘Happy with my contribution to this game’ doesn’t sync with this narrative you are building as town!Rubi but at the same time I agree that you aren’t always obvious town at the start of games. Soooooooooo.... pass? #725 is along the same vein.

    This entire fonti/Rubi exchange makes me uneasy because it feels like they are fighting over Rubi reading me as town and I’m feeling weird as fuck stuck in between rofl.

    Conclusion: My vote stays for now.

    Zenzao #703 & #722

    I agree about the Allocen part absolutely but I also think that I really don’t see Titus as Allocen now. I have been pushing for MY allocen choice from the start but no one followed so I settled for breaking up the scum team. Besides, as it is Allocen needs to survive to like Day 3 at least to get all of us and if Titus is lying we are told by Mathblade to lynch her by tomorrow. I’m sure scum wants her dead too if they think she’s Allocen.

    Also good opint about the eclipse BUT she keeps talking about Hammering (so she needs a lynch) so if she is talking about White Oblivion why was she suggesting using it Day One when that doesn’t act until Night 2 (so earliest Day Three. Again, we can lynch her tomorrow)

    Polysemousanswer my question. You said you scum read me but now you don’t mention me in your reads? Elaborate beyond ‘I don’t trust Irene after fonti’s post’ at least, thought processes are important to me for following. And yes, I want to ask your thoughts on Titus as well to understand your reasoning better. Thank you.

    “I'm reading Riley is town. Maybe this is not the best approach to just post how your thought process goes when analyzing someone. I figure if town can see how I come to the conclusions I do, they can help me by pointing out mistakes I made or we can have a discussion about things. Or alternatively, they can lean the way I do by being convinced of what I say.” That is what I have been doing but you’re not really answering me :\

    But uh, Waco Kid hasn’t voted for Rubicon as far as I can see. His vote is on you while there’s a wagon on Rubicon currently, so I don’t agree with your ‘clever scum’ Waco Kid reasoning.

    Tada.
     
  8. Waco Kid

    Waco Kid Groundskeeper

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    So what your saying is you changed your read on Bill based on public opinion.

    You've townfirmed Atum whose for the most part been given prob!town status, and Riley who pretty much hasn't been accused of being scum at all (except by Titus, who many are 3p/scum reading), and in your read of Riley you spent most of it pointing out his scummyness over him townyness.

    You scum read Rubicon who when I have him as a scum read is "just a good everyone thinks he's scummy" person, and myself.

    Oddly enough, who are the two people voting for you at this moment??

    You insinuate I know other people's roles and am scum. Wait a minute, having you been accusing me of being a 3P the whole game, not scum, like you did as far back as #243 and as recently as #656?? Just sounds like your flip-flopping again hoping for public support.


    So if you had no read on Luckylee, why was he not in the Neutral column with Blab, Kento, Citrus, Mathblade & Zenzao??

    Are you even reading my posts? If you were you would have noticed that that comment was in response to an His Fluffiness post that I had quoted. Not to mention you still haven't answer my question from #191!

    Amazing how you go through "all my posts on you" as you claim at the beginning of your wall and miss #423. Not trying to hide your scum-slips or anything.

    As you calling me out for "avoiding anything difficult," your hypocrisy shines through clearly. I've been calling out Rubicon since the very beginning (posts #47, #143, & #166), and claimed Luckylee has been scummy since #197, long before he slowed down his posting.

    You are the one avoiding difficulty having jumped on the Rubicon wagon (to bus?) just 21 posts after you said "Will not vote lynch him (Rubicon) unless I don't have other scum targets...which I do," which came right after you were pressured for not voting by Mathblade, Titus, and Bill Door.

    If you really think I'm the most definite scum in the game, why have you not voted me! Because you know I am town, don't you, because you are scum!
     
  9. Titus

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    @Math, My watch broke at about 10 after 7, give or take a couple of minutes. Help me find it?
     
  10. H_A_Greene

    H_A_Greene Unspeakable –§ Prestigious §– DLP Supporter

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    Cripes :/

    Okay. I'm done with Titus, for good or ill at this point. General consensus is 3p Az, fine, wiser minds than mine(Mathblade et all) are running with that for now and until we get something from the flip that's that.

    Likewise I'm seeing the case on Poly now more clearly. ATM it looks like the votes aren't strong enough to lynch him, but there's still a day and a half left toDay. I still want to lynch Rubicon, however, I'm willing to sway either way. So for now:

    Vote Rubicon.
     
  11. Bill Door

    Bill Door The Chosen One DLP Supporter

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    Maybe.

    I don't think you know what the word townfirmed means...
     
  12. Titus

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    Von, Poly, Math, Irene, Fonti, Z

    That's the Rubicon wagon (L minus 3), Two more votes and hammer time.

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    We have one day till end and I am out tonight...
     
  13. Irene

    Irene Seventh Year DLP Supporter Retired Staff DLP Gold Supporter

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    Titus 27 hours left. Are you able to rush back in time for hammer? Really really won't want no-lynch today, if not we have nothing to go on for vote-pattern and shit. If you can't, maybe you can vote now and someone else volunteer to hammer?
     
  14. Titus

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    I'll make it. I just really want to be around during twilight for reactions. These few hours are the best for that.
     
  15. MathBlade

    MathBlade First Year

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    Ignoring this post intentionally.

    @All -- AFK until late tonight.
     
  16. Atum

    Atum DA Member DLP Supporter

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    Unvote
    Vote: Polysemous
     
  17. Titus

    Titus Squib

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    @Math, that is not a private crumb. Do not ignore it. I'm trying here.
     
  18. Bill Door

    Bill Door The Chosen One DLP Supporter

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    Anyone else think this paragraph is absolutely hilarious?
     
  19. Citrus

    Citrus First Year

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    I'd obviously move my vote to prevent q no lynch if it came to it Irene, just FYI.

    Why Rubicon as opposed to polysemous titus? Just putting it out there, these are the sorts of statements a scum titus makes when there's wagons between her scumbuddy and a mislynch - like literally she makes sentences exactly like this sprinkled through when she's scum.

    Unvote
    Vote polysemous


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    Ah thought day was ending later tonight, but this is still fine since everyone bailed on the titus wagon...

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    Haven't heard from you in awhile atum, anything else to add?
     
  20. Vaimes

    Vaimes Fifth Year

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    I don't have work tomorrow, so the soonest I can post is late tonight.

    Unvote