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Endgames: Masquerade Ball

Discussion in 'Little Italy' started by Sloth, Feb 5, 2015.

  1. Citrus

    Citrus First Year

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    The fucking hypocrisy of being an auto-hammer + demanding being in hammer range before claiming while claiming she will hammer anyone who ever gets to L-1
     
  2. Rubicon

    Rubicon High Inquisitor DLP Supporter

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    twitches

    /10chars
     
  3. Titus

    Titus Squib

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    I am not hammering myself. That would be ban able.
     
  4. Waco Kid

    Waco Kid Groundskeeper

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    Irene, I agree with that plan
     
  5. Titus

    Titus Squib

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    Twitch back yo.

    Why do you think people are scum reading you?
     
  6. Vaimes

    Vaimes Fifth Year

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    Titus, I'll vote when I feel like it.

    It probably won't be for Rubicon. Eh.
     
  7. Titus

    Titus Squib

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    Why did you vote and Unvote for him?
     
  8. Fluffiness

    Fluffiness DA Member

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    So I’ve been looking back through the thread, and I’ve got too say that in I really can see the Rubi/KK/blab/LL team.

    Blab+Rubicon:

    blab loves to defend Rubicon from pressure. (see posts #100 and #109 for some examples.)

    When Zenzao pressures Rubicon for evading his questions, blab immediately follows up by telling Zenzao that his suspicions make no sense (and he’s not even reading Zen’s post, just blindly defending Rubi).

    And even that critique of Zen’s post falls flat when we see blab’s post #41, where he admits that Rubi’s not knowing his own alignment is odd, and he implies that Rubi is scum for it (“Town would poke Snow

    Then, there’s blab’s read of Rubicon here:

    It feels like he wants to townread Rubicon, but either doesn’t want it to be to obvious or can’t think of a good reason, resulting in his townreading Rubicon with no real reason, but doubtcasting his own read. I would also expect blab to actually push Rubicon more if he actually thought Rubicon was third party, since third party is a threat to town too.

    Additionally, Rubicon calls blab scummy in his reads, but without ever actually pressuring blab or talking to him at all.

    Luckylee+Rubicon:

    After Waco’s question for reads on fonti and Atum, Lucky feels the need to slip on a part about Rubicon.
    A part about Rubicon thast seems to indicate that he lies here, since he has obviously seen Rubicon’s posts.
    Luckylee keeps on giving BS townreads on Rubicon because he can’t remember any of his posts, or because he feels that “Rubi+Atum interactions are townie+townie”

    Those two points are debunked here, when you compare this:
    And this:
    And here, where you see that Atum is a scumread.
    Kento+Rubicon

    In Kento’s first readwall, Rubicon is the only person he marks down as town. (#229)

    But the reasons Kento says he has for being wary of Rubicon come from before that post ( #29 and Zenzao’s #106)
    So, in conclusion, Lynch: Rubicon
     
  9. Vaimes

    Vaimes Fifth Year

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    Pretty sure I said why? I wanted to get a better read on him, but then I hit a busy streak and the wagon grew and I didn't want to lynch him since it wasn't a sure thing.

    ---------- Post automerged at 01:04 ---------- Previous post was at 01:03 ----------

    Keep in mind I haven't read the thread yet.

    May have to skim at the speed of snow.
     
  10. Citrus

    Citrus First Year

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    My point isn't that you should self-hammer, it's that you're demanding a threshold of L-1 while you also assert you're autohammering anything that gets to L-1. Supporting one state of the world while opposing it (the idea of L-1 being safe or not) when it applies to you hence hypocrisy.
     
  11. Irene

    Irene Seventh Year DLP Supporter Retired Staff DLP Gold Supporter

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    The Waco Kid/Poly thing is really scummy to me because I can accept that being a mistake but... what if it's subconscious Rubicon knows Poly is town and wrote it down and didn't check it. Honestly.

    Also you being so certain about Titus not being able to prove her power... I can accept that, but let me point out that with Titus galloping around suggesting her hidden powers there is such a thing as

    Maewyrnn:
    • Glacial Kiss - Once per Day and per Night phase, Maerwynn can select a player and freeze them in place, effectively preventing the use of any abilities they have. Her targets will thaw out when the next phase begins.
    Unless the targeted player takes action, there will be no feedback for them.
     
  12. Rubicon

    Rubicon High Inquisitor DLP Supporter

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    AFAICT, Irene's read on my boils down to thinking I'm being inconsistent, that is, some of my posts are town and make her feel good about me but some give her vibes like 'defensive'. At some level, I think she fundamentally misunderstands how I play mafia.

    Math (and Irene to some extent) are also drawing connections between me and scummy players, notably Luckylee and fontisian. That's probbbbably not a good way to scumhunt day one.

    Zenzao thinks I evaded one of his questions, which I didn't.

    fontisian doesn't scumread me. I'm sorry, there's no world in which that is believable.

    Polysemous is scum.

    I asked you why you scumread me.
     
  13. Titus

    Titus Squib

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    this makes no sense. Try again. In English.
     
  14. Rubicon

    Rubicon High Inquisitor DLP Supporter

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    Forgot about that.

    Something to consider if she claims to have been roleblocked.
     
  15. Waco Kid

    Waco Kid Groundskeeper

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    Given that it's currently snowing with 40+mph winds, the speed of snow actually seems pretty fast, lol
     
  16. Titus

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    My special power, as I explained 708 times, is not in the first post.
     
  17. Rubicon

    Rubicon High Inquisitor DLP Supporter

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    Okay, and his fluffiness is also voting me for interaction tells of unflipped players. So yeah.
     
  18. Titus

    Titus Squib

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    I cannot be role locked as I do not act during day or night.
     
  19. Rubicon

    Rubicon High Inquisitor DLP Supporter

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    Mm, so twilight is actually considered a separate phase?
     
  20. Irene

    Irene Seventh Year DLP Supporter Retired Staff DLP Gold Supporter

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    Good to know Titus.

    Rubicon I am just really really unwilling to let off on the fact that while trying to explain why you are town you said Polysemous is town. I really think that it's kinda a mistake I find impossible to ignore. If you had done it earlier yes, but it feels like a panic mistake you are trying to salvage now.

    I don't believe other people can't see this but I guess the Titus thing is really taking attention away from that.

    I'll however turn my attention to see his fluffiness' post for now.