Okay.

I just read the first one and, I'm sorry to say, I find a lot of what you wrote to be weak and I don't find myself agreeing with any of it. Not with scum!Rubicon, not with scum!blab, not with town!Zenzao (at least to the extent you're reading him -- I'm not entirely sure), and a lot of the people you attempted to clear as town are sort of the more obvious townies, so. Riley isn't scummy, a lot of your reasons for scumreading people feel weak/too easy because I've seen these players as scum/3P before and I really don't think they're scum for the reasons you've listed.

You're very wordy and organized and I really hope you're town because if I have to, like, wallwar you or something to the DEATH, I'm probably just going to not. I didn't expect to agree with you based on your reputation alone, and I'm kind of shocked by how much I disagree with you, but whether that's attributed to me being wrong or you being scum, well. I don't really know at this point.

That's just what I'm thinking right now. Straight from the heart.

I've been on page 12 for what feels like three million years. Man.

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"the first one" = Irene's first wall (228)

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This is probably stuff I should have brought up a long time ago but procrastination. Eh. Sorry if this isn't really relevant.

 

Page 12? Oh god Snowvon, I'm actually going to be impressed if you make it through the entire thing

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I'd answer stuff addressed to me since I've last posted but I drank and I'm tired and I'll be back in the morning

 

I thought this was a touch hypocritical.

I kind of hate myself for starting to scumread Irene because.

Well.

We all know why.

I'm kind of treating the main thread as my QT just a tad.

fake edit: if I do it will you be my valentine? I have, like. M&Ms. And stuff.

 

Uh... To clarify. Later it was pointed out Citrus has not posted at all when Atum made that post.

Also, I didn't scumread Kento for not posting, I was just annoyed and pointing it out.

 

Irene wasn't the only one with a 'scumread' on me when I literally hadn't posted yet

 

Okay. Perhaps I misread that bit.

 

? Citrus I didn't scum read you. Do you mean Atum?

 

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/10Ineedtothinkofsomethingfunny

 

I was replying to Atum, saying he had a scumread on Citrus when I don't recall you posting much (And it turns out you haven't posted...?)

 

Whatever happened to Titus not dominating the thread with her special brand of play /:
...

I'll doubt I'll vote for Poly because the arguments isn't convincing me.
Because I can see his behaviour from a town!Polysemous POV. Also meta.

 

blab do you mind going through the Rubicon arguments then? Or are you going to abstain? If you aren't voting for Poly who would you vote for?

 

Last game he was criticized for not putting out enough reads, so he does that.

I didn't agree with them, but more importantly, I can see why he would think so (see=>Atum=town)

It's his second game. I expect him to be fairly easily swayed by more skilled players (or public opinion, if you want to put it that way)

I expect him to shy away from starting a wagon alone on Waco vs. voting with others because again newbie.

He aggros when agrroed by those he had put as scumread. Ok, not really good, but I remember he put all players who scumread him on his scumreads in WH4.

Missing a name on his first wall, and missing a response that was Waco talking to Titus about him, meh.

 

A reminder that it's 10 hours left.

 

I'd expect to get something more substantial from scum!Poly. Especially since he was pressured.

Ugh, I'll look at Rubicon again.
I wish I could trust any of you/fonti/Rubicon enough that I could just sheep.

Can you tell me exactly what your thoughtprocess on his fluffiness is/was? Because rereading just confused me more.

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What is your feel about fontisian?

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shit, today is valentine's day.

 

Okay, most people voting for Rubicon has built a case against him. Coming up with their own reasons. But against me, it seems people who townread me are just jumping in to cast a vote against me. It makes no sense. There's clearly some scum manipulation going on here (I don't know what the mafia term for that is).

If people are looking at Waco's reasons, did they see my response to that in #726?

 

fontisian could be a witch. I don't really feel strongly about her one way or the other, so that could be a problem.

It is! Or was.

 

blab It's over here but happy belated valentines to you. Thanks for coming back. Hope the RL stuff is okay.

Anyway my fluffiness case in #470

'I said initially fluffiness leaned town with but refrained from categorizing him with the scum in #228. After Rubicon/Fonti gave more views, in #245 I said he feels like he leans 60% town and I was more concerned with blab. Further reads from other people and so at #291 I said in the same post multiple times, where after considering what Rubicon and fontisian said I decided that fluffiness was scummy but not as scummy as fontisian was pushing, and that he was scummy but my priority wasn’t with him, ending the post with him as possible scum below my top four. So the fluffiness is scum thing definitely changed over a span of ALMOST A HUNDRED POSTS upon further discussion, it was not a sudden change and it was not uncalled for. That is my response to the fluffiness situation. '

Since writing that his fluffiness has written his recent long reads post which I thought had good points pointing out things I may have missed, and currently I am focusing on Rubicon/Poly so I decided to give him a pass for now. If Rubicon turns out to be town however, I would definitely go back to him Day Two. So currently he's still... scummy but not to the point of Rubicon scumminess. Does that make sense?

 

Bill, Math and Snowvon are good townreads for me.
Atum, Zen, Riley and Citrus weaker ones.

Irene, fontisian, Titus and his fluffiness are all probably unaligned with Rubicon.

Which leaves me with something like Rubicon/Waco/Kento/Lucky for combinations where Rubicon is scum and Polysemous isn't (the case relevant for voting Rubi over Poly) and combinations with players I have


That's just one combo and I don't really have much suspicion that Waco is scum.

 

Can't sleep quick answer to Rubicon will check other notifications in AM after sleep.

If you flip town it would depend on VCA other than probably Polysemous scum. However with Polysemous being the counter wagon more than likely at least one of you is scum.

 

What are they wrong about?

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I'm starting to skim the posts of people I townread because it's 5:30AM and I'm losing the will to exist.

Page 32.

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Also I'm going to set an alarm for an hour before deadline, so I'll be here in case LAST MINUTE PARTYING happens.

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Oops, never responded to this.

I don't really have any scumreads aside from Irene and Zenzao. And even those are pretty weak; they're more feelings of suspicion or uneasiness.

Most of my townreads stem from either 1) people playing to their town meta in what I perceive to be really obvious ways, or 2) my heavy distrust of Irene and her attacks/reads/reasoning. Or at least most of them.

Titus is an issue that'll work itself out. If she's actually the Survivor 3P, the Souper will just kill her. Although if it were that easy, Titus probably wouldn't have "outed" herself. I don't know, I'm fine with leaving her be and seeing what happens. And despite all of her trolling and shit, I still get a somewhat-towny vibe from her.

I can see his readwall just fine. Tell me what you see and why it doesn't tickle you pink.

blab's questions/responses to people fill me with towny joy. Basically. I think he's being thorough and clear in his responses. He isn't really achieving Priest!blab towniness, but I can't say I'm feeling all that confident about you either (aside from the fact that Irene wants you dead and that makes me feel mysterious feelings) so it's not like I trust either one of you as much as I'd like to.

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Also, I sort of agree that it feels like fonti is faking her scumread on Rubicon. Just a little.

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Oh my god I'm almost caught up page 45 I can see the light.