I think his posts are kind of all over the place, sometimes he claims to think D1 is random guessing, sometimes he says he doesn't know how to read any of us, and then sometimes he seems quite confident in his reads on people. I think he's avoiding my question about you.

 

It's hardly deflection when I continue on, and you cherry picking that sentence is scum as fuck.


fontisian is caught scum and I've explained quite clearly why. If you choose to call her town, I want to know what parts of my case you disagree with.[/QUOTE]

Your case against her is meta. I am not familiar with her meta. What is so hard for you to understand?

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It's hardly deflection when I continue on, and you cherry picking that sentence is scum as fuck.

Your case against her is meta. I am not familiar with her meta. What is so hard for you to understand?[/QUOTE]

EBWOP

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And it's still screwed up... /sigh

Oh well.

 

It's odd he's asking for your opinion on his case? Do you want to try that again?

 

Yeah, you're full of it.

[v]Rubicon[/v]

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Dammit...

Vote: Rubicon[/v]

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Fuck my life.

Vote Rubicon

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Keep reading, broheim.

 

Okay, so you arrive on a forum with people you don't know very well. You're not feeling very confident about your D1 reads lately. Some people with years of meta experience think a player is scum, including one you do know (Snowvon). That player even does something you think is a little suspicious, and you say you're starting to have doubts about her. Then a wagon starts on the player and you refuse to vote it because you now think the player is town. When pressed to comment on the case against the player, you decline. Mm-hm.

 

Mhm.

One post does not scum make. You've been showing a pattern of scummy posts in your angling against fonti, and now you're going to start targeting me because I refuse to ride your railroad.

 

A lot of people aren't joining my railroad against fonti. They're not all town. (I think people just don't like voting her. She had to literally claim scum to get people to lynch her in Endgames.)

Anyway, it's inconsistent, contradicts your thought process from earlier in the day, and shows you're trying to protect fontisian, who is scum.

Two down, three to go.

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Meant to say they're not all scum -- for example, Lucky isn't scum, he's just incorrect.

 

Do thrill us with your logic behind what kind of scum motivation I'd have for blatantly protecting my supposed scumbuddy when her lynch is gaining momentum.

Optimal play for scum in this situation would be for me to allow myself to be persuaded and hop on the wagon.

The only way my play makes sense if you think I'm scum is if fonti is town. Instead, you're so invested in your desire to lynch fonti (is it just for the challenge, or is she really that much of a threat to you?) that you are ignoring possibilities that are far more likely than scum shielding scum, which is utterly laughable in this situation.

I'm pretty happy with my vote.

 

Presumably your scum motivation is keeping her alive. Do you think experienced scum players never openly defend their partners or...? Of course they do.

Why would town-you be so hypersensitive about being called scum, anyway? Your reaction is so disproportional to the situation it's almost as weird as your read on fonti.

Anyway, come at me. I don't need to survive to win this game, I just need to point the way.

 

Maybe idiot scum does. Smart scum knows when to bus.

(Psst: I'm not idiot scum. If you really knew who I was, as you alluded to earlier, you'd realize this)

What gives you the idea that I'm hypersensitive? You're the one that's so tunneled that you're dying to scumread anybody that dares to disagree with your bullshit.

You're dumb or scum. Are you dumb?

 

fontisian's last post was basically, "But he's buddying me! Hint hint you think scum don't like to buddy their partners right wink wink." That doesn't make you scum with her by itself, but it means I'm not going to believe any defense based on "but I wouldn't defend her like this as scum! that would be stupid!"

The bottom line is your reasoning is inconsistent, you're contradicting yourself, you seem to be motivated to keep scum-fonti alive, and you're flying into a rage/panic and voting me just because I suggested you might be scummy.

That's all I need on you. Time to find the other three scum.

 

No, fontisian's last post was "in the world we are in, where I am town, does Pinky's behavior make sense from scum?" You didn't answer, by the way.

 

I don't follow your question. Please elaborate.

 

Vote count late tonight.

Mod Notes: Sloth V/LA until Tuesday tentatively. If he needs more time that is cool. I will only replace him out if he asks due to the circumstances.

 

Xanidel, what do you think about all this? I know you think it's all shots in the dark, but if you had to look at it just as, which points or arguments make the most sense, at least superficially, what would you say?

 

Honestly I'm not really looking at the arguments as something logically-based. Until I get better at discerning truth and lies I'm basically reduced to looking at the tone of everyone's posts. It may not make much strategic sense to do so, but it feels better to align with the ones who aren't belligerent, at least for D1.

 

Xanidel, here is a post:

This post can be judged without any consideration of whether fontisian is town or scum, or whether she is lying. It is a logical argument, and you can say whether it makes sense to you. Does it?

 

You're naive.

Who's more likely to draw votes? A belligerent asshole, or someone that goes out of their way to avoid provoking others?

If the belligerent asshole is more likely to draw votes, tell me what scum motivation there is in being a belligerent asshole.

Don't read tone. You don't know how.

 

Nope, not at all. It may be a fault in me but I can't wrap my head around how one sentence leads to the next in her argument. I'm beginning to think I'm not cut out for this kind of thinking.

 

Xanidel, I'm bored so I'll rephrase fontisian's post for you.

1) The vanilla town PM says that people who are roleblocked (targeted by the town jailkeeper or mafia roleblocker) are informed.

2) Snowvon didn't know that people who are roleblocked are informed.

3) Therefore Snowvon didn't receive a Vanilla Town PM.

4) Historically, Snowvon hasn't joked around about being a power role (jailkeeper, doctor, cop, etc.) while actually being one.

5) Snowvon did joke around about being a power role in this game, therefore he isn't a power role.

6) If Snowvon isn't Vanilla Town or a power role, he must be mafia, by process of elimination.

Does it make sense?

Says the guy being belligerent