Titus' scum game is about a thousand million times better than mine.

 

While we're at it:

And bullshit. It was precisely the kind of wording trap that I attack people for all the time, as you are well aware. If I don't want people to notice my scumteam's screwups, I do the intelligent thing, and don't point them out obviously to the everyone else. But you knew that.

False. Citrus started off as town Citrus does (with content), and earned a light town read. His reaction to that town read then allowed me to acquire a stronger one and so on.

These two sentences are nonsensical gibberish.

Also nonsense. Xanidel was clearly reading games from the beginning days of the forum, as I previous stated. You'll notice that Titus wasn't around that early on, and the discussions of her gender in recent games are irrelevant when he likely hasn't read them.

The actual argument to make her is Xanidel couldn't have been coached anyway when scum don't have day chat. But, I suppose Ter was still deciding whether to include that little bit in her wall when she was writing this part and was worried it might clear me.

Oh look, the first part of the argument assumes there is no daychat and then second assumes that scum do have it. Funny how that works.

 

I haven't played a game with you as scum...but I can say whole heartedly fuck Titus' scum game.

 

False. People here are just bad at realize when she's being really obvious.

 

If we are assuming that all the scum players are posting and that all the lurkers are town than I thought that would make the reasoning obvious. It means there is a larger percentage of scum in the group we are picking from so there is a higher chance of picking scum. Hopefully that makes sense.
TerRaine - Do you have any reasons to think Rubicon is scum other than how his current play compares to his play from a previous game? If you don't than I don't really get your read as I don't think meta is a good way to scum/town read someone.

 

A sentiment, by the way, that you are supporting very well right now, Rubicon. At least Citrus has picked up on Titus' modus operandi.

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Jpzh2d: Can you give me three scum reads?

 

I forgot he was a player.

I'll look at him later.

 

You say you haven't ever played with Rubicon when he has been scum and yet you have used experience with him as justification. How can you be sure he is town now from how he has played with you when you haven't played with him when he has been scum?

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Fontisian - My top three reads are probably Rubicon, TerRaine and ???. I'm not sure who comes into third for me. I'm going to re read the thread and I'll post back my other scum read later.

 

Can you explain why?

 

My remarkable ability. It’s terrifying in its potency.

…literacy…

IE I read through a game in which Rubicon was scum.

WH4 no vote hoping, much lower posting activity like he was trying to go unnoticed. MUCH more willing to explain his votes and pressures to appear town where as a town rubicon holds things close to the chest more so.

 

Yeah, but Rubicon (and the rest of his team) was caught at the beginning of that. Why not look at the game you modded where Rubicon was scum?

 

Why not, exactly?

Sounds like you've seen people using meta the wrong way.

The best "meta" is just knowing a person well enough to understand how they think. Eventually you start to pick up on patterns in their town and scum games and you can absolutely use this deeper understanding to read them better.

The bad kind of meta doesn't have this understanding. It's just making guesses based on skimming a few games, or cherry-picking superficial details.

To clarify, I might lynch Titus later, but I'm only really interested in lynching fontisian today.

I'm not going to touch this one because I think we've talked too much about Snowvon's role already.

Who said I want to end day early?

My goal is one vote per day until deadline.

 

Because as mod in that game my focus was on mechanics/flavor. It was a pet project of mine and sloth's and my focus wasn't on reading up on everyone's meta...I was focusing on the end result. WH4 was one I was more familiar with having read it during Batman.

I will say having taken a quick glance at EG a lot of what I said is still holding true. The only difference I’m seeing is Rubicon is more active. He’s still much more straightforward and putting in a lot of effort to seem town as opposed to his actual town meta of being vague and playing close to the chest. I’ll admit I only read the first 100 of those post just now because I am heading out to the dr.

 

Reasons for my TerRaine read-

I find TerRaine to be funny because of her read of Rubicon. She says that she is reading Rubicon to be town with her only reasoning being his meta. This just doesn't make sense to me. Whilst meta can be used correctly to get light reads on a player I don't believe that meta can be used to say whether a player is 100% town which is what TerRaine has been doing.

I also find it suspicious that she appears to be defending Rubicon in a few posts like in the quote below.

TerRaine has also said that she didn't find Fonti to be suspicious:

The sudden shift from not finding Fonti to be suspicious to reading her as the scummiest out of everyone seems off to me. You even said at one point that Rubicon's reasons for voting Fonti don't make sense to you:

TerRaine - what has suddenly made you go from 'Fonti isn't scum' to 'Fonti is the scummiest player EVAR'? To me it seems like you arre scum jumping onto a wagon with made by your scum buddy to get Fonti lynched.


Reasons for my Rubicon read-

From what I've seen of Fonti I believe she has done some scummy things but I don't think she has done enough for you to want to lynch her and not be willing to even think of anyone else. Your single mindedness on this matter makes me think you are one of two things: Town who thinks they have actually caught Scum or Scum who is trying to lynch a Town player.

From what I remember the only scummy thing Fonti has done in my eyes is to do with Snowvon. I don't think you reasons of her playing like her scumself holds up:

As Fonti has already said she has been busy and TerRaine has disagreed with you on this point. And, as mentioned before, I don't really think meta can be used as a definite scum tell. You disagree with me here so I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree.

 

Well, she has.

Being busy was never a good excuse. I don't scumread fontisian for not posting enough. I scumread her for the things she does post.

At any rate, you seem like you believe what you're saying, so you might be town. Hopefully when fonti flips scum you'll reevaluate.

 

Sorry for the inactivity.

On the basis of #559 & #560 in combination, plus a retrospective look at how they make sense with some of Snow's early comments.

Unvote: Snowvon

In the meantime I'm going go over the past couple days worth of posts again.
his fluffiness: Your thoughts on Fontisian, Rubicon and Titus. Atum: Just a reminder to follow up on the Rubicon read. Obv no rush, as you mentioned a upcoming midterm, just didn't want it to slip through the cracks.

 

I was scum that game as well, and alive for way longer. Were you reading it for Rubicon in particular?

@Waco: Rubicon is a tentative townread. Mostly meta.

 

This isn't scum!Titus.

If it was, I wouldn't be crumbing my r/l name to her because she can read me like an open book.

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What is Rubicon doing in this game that matches his town meta?

 

Rubicon: What are your reads on Citrus and Ter?

 

(@Others: Atum's a big boy, please let him answer all on his own)