Either you don't know the answer to the question, or you feel the need to inject your opinion on it. Either way, your input is useless to me.

 

There was kickback to Ledger's casting as Joker — mostly in reference to Ledger's prior roles in Brokeback Mountain and 10 Things I Hate About You — but that pretty much died down after the first IMAX trailer came out (the one with the bank robbery). I also seem to recall complaints from comics "purists" who complained that Joker's white face would be makeup instead of dyed skin. I don't think that continued once people actually saw Ledger in the Joker getup and knocking it out of the park.

This kind of early knee-jerk hyperbole isn't totally unexpected. Especially when you consider how "soon" it's been since the last on-screen Joker. It was almost twenty years between Jack Nicholson and Heath Ledger. It's been...seven years since Dark Knight? And people are incredibly attached to Ledger's Joker. I could certainly understand why people are getting up in arms about it.

 

It's hard not to see a link between Brokeback and Dallas Buyers' Club and the kickback (if any, regarding Ledger. Thus my question) their casting/ image garnered.

 

The problem here mister genius is that you were not criticizing the actor (or his previous works) so much as the way he looked in the first image of himself in-character, and then drew the parallel with Ledger. But that doesn't work that way, because Ledger's costume/appearance are very close to canon Joker, while the pic that was released earlier isn't.

First make sense of what you wanna say before trying to actually say it to others.

 

Yeah, and they take that and dress this guy up so he looks more like a Juggalo that just heard hatchets and Faygo went on sale.

The fact that they can actually create this horror and try to emulate that famous drawing shows how completely careless these filmmakers are.

To start with. They're completely tasteless and make him look more like one of the Jokerz thugs from Batman Beyond than the actual Joker. The Joker is classy, or at least thinks he's classy in the same way he thinks he's clever or a genius. I mean that's part of the character. Tattoos, especially those tattoos, aren't classy, they're trashy.

And since they're showing off all those tattoos I'm guessing they're going to make him go shirtless a lot or something? Not even going with the purple suit? Maybe he won't, but then why have the tattoos then.

Then there's the teeth, where I guess they decided he's a rapper now. (At least they're still taking inspiration from criminals.) And the shaved eyebrows, because that's so wacky. His skin's not even disfigured and with the tattoos I'm guessing they're not going with the face paint either, so I guess he's just... really pale. I can't see his hair fully but I'll laugh if he's got one of those stupid hipster shaved combovers, because you know, why not at this point.

With the creators having such a hopeless take on the visual aspects of the Joker, I shudder to think how they'll mangle everything else. I don't know shit about this actor, but he still has to read the lines they give him and everything.

Oh, God, Harley Quinn's supposed to be in this movie too, isn't she?

You are just determined to dig that hole.

I'm hardly "shattered," since like I said I had practically zero interest in this movie anyway. My apathy's merely transformed into antipathy. And other superhero movies have yet to have a design this terrible. I mean, I thought some were pretty terrible at the time, but this is a new level in awfulness.

The real shame would be if someone decided to go all "avant-garde" on a proven design and wound up making something cringeworthy and ridiculous. Oh, wait.

If it ain't broke, don't fix it.

 

I'm not criticizing anything. I asked a question, wondering where the backlash is coming from. The image is one possibility, as Aviary went into, the link between gay-centric movies is another. I'm curious. You're trying to read into my opinion, of which I don't have any.

Because I don't give a fuck either way.

 

Sometimes I feel like I'm the only person who wasn't at all bothered when they announced that the Brokeback Mountain guy would be Joker, or that Ben Affleck will be Batman or Gal Gadot will be Wonder Woman. I respect the passion fans have for these characters, but I think that some of them could do with being more open-minded.

 

It says it's Johnny Depp's movie, but I don't see him in the trailer. Did he direct it?

 

You be trollin'?

Maybe?

He's the balding blond guy.

 

My first reaction to the Black Mass trailer was "ah, so Johnny is playing the High Priest guy?"

Yup, my brain went straight to Satanism. Depp looks strangely demonic sitting at the table.

 

Not so much about what he looked like but there was a huge outcry that Heath Ledger of all people was playing him. Which probably should teach people not to judge a character before actually seeing it.

Edit, aaaand I just realised there was about 10 posts on another page that I didnt see.

 

Answered my question the best though.

 

Doesn't a wink smiley face make it clear that I'm joking? Don't tell me that all this time I was using it wrong.

 

So who dragged you to watch it?

 

Most of my group in school are girls. Us guys were outvoted.

 

About Jared Leto, he is a pretty great actor that goes neck deep in all of his characters, I am not worried about him there. Yes, he does looks like Marilyn Mason, but he is looking pretty damn like a Punk Serial Killer Clown, and it certainly is a strange and intimidating sight. From my POV they made a conscious effort to distance themselves from Ledger's Joker, in appearence, in manneirism if I can bet. And that's good, you don't want all James Bonds to be indentical, or why keep making the same movie?

He went wild, deranged and punk with the look, interest take that is not out of character for the maniac that the Joker is. Don't say it's gonna suck because he looks strange and unrefined. It's like saying Goodfellas is a bad gangster movie because the Mafia wasn't aristocratic like the Corleone Family.

Change is good, but if the change is for better, no idea yet. The outpour was huge about Ledger, and look how he ended up on the movie. You can't make Leto compete with an Oscar winning perfomance by a tragically dead man.

 

Regardless of whether you like him or not, Leto's Joker has already spawned quite a few funny memes. The best of which has to be this.

 

As if that was a hard decision, going with chicks to see 50 shades? Sign me up.

They'll be gagging later.

 

Can I just point out that Ledger's Joker was not the same style. His skin was not bleached. At least Leto's skin was bleached. He's not the same as canon Joker. Canon Joker's suit is usually well kempt, or if he's unkempt (I'm thinking The Black Glove), he's still in some sort of trouser get up.

EDIT: Really not worried about Leto in Suicide Squad. Like, at all. He's an Oscar winning actor. There's no reason to doubt he'll kill it.

 

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