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Avengers: Age of Ultron

Discussion in 'Movies, Music and TV shows' started by Alraune, Dec 22, 2013.

  1. Klackerz

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    Just came back from the movie and I loved it.

    I was pleasantly surprised that all the things which occurred in the trailer happened early on in the movie. I was honestly expecting it to be more.

    Hawkeye was awesome as fuck. I guess this answers the question of where he was during CA2.

    Ultron was disappointing after the awesome trailers. He was not menacing enough. It should have done better.

    The end credit was underwhelming. I expected more.
     
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  2. Nemrut

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    Just watched it:

    I had fun in the theatre but I was a bit... underwhelmed, I'd say. The action was entertaining, a few one liners were amusing, and it had a few great scenes but overall, something was lacking. Maybe it was the aforementioned underutilization of Ultron who lost his menace as the film went on. As a sporadic comic book reader, none of which were Avengers comics, I had no clue who the Vision was and what he was supposed to be, before reading this thread I didn't even know that he was named Vision. If that was stated in the movie, I've missed it. If I understood it right, he is part JARVIS, part Ultron and part that superpowerful gem that didn't amount to much but, dunno, I wasn't clear where I was standing with him.

    Bruce/Nat thing, I am unsure as well. On one hand, it was interesting, I think, on the other, it did come a bit out of left field and wasn't build up all that well. Dunno, would have liked it more if there had been some build up in the last movie(s). Think I would have preferred their interactions as friendship more. Other than that, think Widow was my favourite part of the movie.

    Cap, Thor and Burton were fine, Rhodey was entertaining, although I did wonder why they didn't call the Falcon for the endgame fight, even though he was in the beginning of the movie and at the very end.

    Liked the twins, but wasn't blown away by them. To me, they were actually the most forgettable part of the movie, to be honest. SW powers were a bit vague and the superspeed of QS was inconsistent as well. Feel kind of bad that he died but meh.

    Overall, it was a good movie and a good action flick, but I expected more. Worth seeing in theatres though. If only it hadn't been in 3D but in Germany, you are kinda forced to watch the 3D version if you want to see it in English.
     
  3. Gengar

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    Being 'underwhelmed' seems to be the trend. That novelty of seeing them all on the same screen probably wore off after the first one.

    I can see the next one getting a proper frosty reception if the director doesn't get that (do we know who that is yet?)
     
  4. Sechrima

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    I actually liked Ultron as the villain. In the first Avengers, Loki came across as a bit recycled (from the first Thor film) for me. I personally liked how Ultron wasn't all super menacing and mwahaha!evil. His Stark-like personality was something fresh and unexpected. That said, Thanos will be by far the best villain and I can't wait for that.

    There were a lot of cool things in the film, like mentions of Wakanda, uses of vibranium, Infinity Stones, hints at the coming Civil War, etc.

    The Vision was pretty cool. OP, sure, but that just means the future threats will be scaling up. Something to look forward to.
     
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    The Russo brothers, who did Winter Soldier. They'll also be directing Civil War.
     
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    It is 8:45 and I am in the theater waiting for the 9:00 early showing to start. No one else is here.

    Positive that I'm not in the wrong theater... so... nuclear apocalypse?
     
  7. Ched

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    I'd planned on going to the early showing tonight too, but turns out I feel like shit today. Shit enough to not go to the Avengers early showing... damn.

    This weekend for sure!
     
  8. Wynter

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    I didn't like it at all, but i think it's generally because I've grown out of over-the-top action the past few years. Which in reality just makes me question why the fuck I decided to watch this in the first place. If you like explosions and just sitting back and chilling out for two and a half hours it's perfectly fine. If your looking for plot or anything vaguely interesting outside of "Ehrmagerd giant robot battle." You'll come out disappointed.

    Probably the worst thing I've watched this year. But in general I'm very selective about what I watch anyways.
     
  9. Jon

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    I just got back from seeing it. I enjoyed it.

    I think you guys went in way, way, way too hyped.
     
  10. Meerkats

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    I saw it last week and enjoyed it very much.

    I especially liked Ultron and Vision and how their characters were handled. Both could be eerie and creepy (especially in the case of Ultron) but both could also make the audience laugh, which is an essential part of Marvel however dark their films get.

    Obviously the Hulkbuster scene had me squealing with joy, but as a general the action felt impactful and suitably epic.

    Clearly Hawkeye got the most amount of attention this time and I found his story line touching and nice. He also got two of the best lines in the film.

    Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver were great too. Both actors suited their role and as much as it sucks that Quicksilver died, I felt like they did him justice. Looking forward to seeing Scarlet Witch as a main avenger now, hopefully won't have to wait til Infinity War.

    My major gripe was the relationship between Tony and Cap. Based on the trailers and the whole Tony creating Ultron thing I was expecting tension between them that would stretch to breaking point during Civil War. Now unless they are planning to change a huge part of Civil War for the film, they'll have to recreate that tension from the ground up, seeing how Tony and Cap are best buds now.
     
  11. Tasoli

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    Just saw it. Bad guy kinda underwhelming in the second part but it didn't bother me at all because the character interactions was amazing. Like Avengers siting around talking and them deadpannig to eachother like this,

    Tony to Thor; So if you put your hammer to elevator,
    Captain;Tony is right elevator is not worthy.
    It was so cash, Really if there was actually a sitcom of Avengers I would watch it.
     
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    Went in with absolutely no expectations - or spoilers - and enjoyed it.

    No idea who the Vision was beforehand, still really don't. Was expecting him to be a bad guy the entire time.
     
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    The movie nailed Tony Stark so perfectly.

    That's all that really needs to be said.
     
  14. TmDagger

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    Liked the movie quite a bit.
    A lot of reviews mention Ultron being underwhelming and underutilized, but to me AoU nailed him pretty much perfectly - he is an AI, but at the same time he is all too human and flawed.

    Sure, the final confrontation underlined just how underwhelming he was in head-on clash with Avengers. Then again, very few antagonists in MCU would fare much better when Avengers bring their A-game to bear.
     
  15. IAmJustAnotherGuy

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    Glad they gave Cap the leader treatment he deserves. Sure, Tony's movies bring more money to the table but Cap is a way better team leader and much more than just 'Murica Man. Him, Hawkeye and Vision stole the show for me. Great characterization from all of the characters with a few downsides but still amazing. The first and last action shots are without a doubt some of the best comic book like scenes on film.

    This is one of the best Marvel movies a comic book fan, like me, could ask for. There were some flaws and it's definitely not on TWS leve but definitely in the top 5 of the MCU.
     
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    Just got back. TL;DR what was good felt rushed or underutilized, and what was bad stuck out like a sore thumb. Liked Hawkeye and Captain America, didn't really like the Hulk/Black Widow thing (whatever happened to Betty Ross, again?), and Ultron was criminally mishandled.

    The jokes. God, the jokes. I can barely sit through a Marvel movie anymore. Maybe DC's movies could do with more humor, but Marvel could do with a lot less.
     
  17. Ched

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    Just saw it.

    I enjoyed it. I didn't feel that it was a stereotypical 'action flick' without point or purpose, which is good. I think someone said that's all it was. But to me it had enough emotions/plot/whatever going on to give it a storytelling feel instead of just action. Kudos.

    Spoilers:
    It's awesome. But then, with this cast, it was always going to be awesome.

    Overall I quite liked it, though not quite as much as the first Avengers movie.

    Unlike some others I didn't feel that Ultron was underutilized. I liked the level of threat he represented, because honestly... if things got 'turned up to 11' every time, it might get old fast. We'd run into 'power creep' or whatever the trope is. This was a serious issue to deal with that got dealt with before it became an even bigger one.

    I've always been a Hawkeye fan. I liked how much attention he got in this one, but as a stereotypical fan I wish we'd gotten more. The family man angle is great, but I wanted to see him do more. As an aside, did Laura do anything in the comics other than get killed?

    Swearing gag. Hahaha. Also other jokes. Love the jokes.

    Quicksilver. Wasn't expecting things to end that way for him, but it worked. Will miss him though. Liked him more than his sister, who I mostly liked when she was interacting with him. Scarlet Witch was just 'okay' in my book, could take her or leave her.

    I actually like the Bruce/Natasha pairing, honestly, because there's something /neat/ about Natasha liking the nice guy who isn't a fighter. Except I can't see Natasha being with someone she'd just put in danger. With Banner she gets both - a nice guy who runs from a fight, but who isn't going to get hurt from being part of her life and who can take care of himself regardless.

    Set up for future things! Wakanda! Infinity Stones! Foreshadowing for how Cap and Stark see the world in a fundamentally different way! Granted that last one was foreshadowed in Avengers 1, but still!

    A few things that were /strange/ somehow.

    The Vision felt... odd. I liked the concept well enough, that the Avengers basically hijacked what Ultron was trying to do and mixed it up with what Stark was trying to do to get something completely different, but it didn't seem to add much to the story at the end. The only plot useful thing that The Vision accomplished was to block Ultron off from escaping through the 'net... and I'd have been fine believing Stark could have done that with help from a reconstructed Jarvis. The Vision felt out of place.

    Is there a comic book/canon basis for Bruce and Natasha? It was odd that so much happened without Betty (Bruce's ex that he probably still has feels for) being mentioned. I mean, seriously. Betty's name at least might have come up, even if only in Bruce's head.

    Why did Banner say that the world had seen the 'real' Hulk for the first time? Didn't he fuck up New York pretty bad in the 2008 movie that I didn't like b/c the actor sucked? Or was he mostly playing 'good guy' during that fiasco and this time he wasn't and that's what he meant?

    The 'new' Avengers team. No real problem here, just... feels odd. I don't really care to see a full movie featuring only the 'new' team without any of the old, but I don't think that's on the table anyway. Isn't The Vision more powerful than anyone left on the team though? By a decent amount? Rhodey has the suit, which is probably less powerful than the more recent one Stark was using. Cap is a badass, but I don't think he's on the level as The Vision in terms of pure fighting ability. Everyone else (iirc) is relying on tricks and human strength. Maybe SW could go toe-to-toe for a bit if she got her powers sorted out better? That's not to say that they couldn't kick The Vision's ass if need be, but in a one-on-one fight could any of them remotely keep up? The Vision just felt out of place.

    Stuff I didn't like as much.
    Robot army? Boring. First of all, I don't think it was established that Stark had /that/ many of them around for Ultron to take over, nor does it make sense that Ultron would have built that many that quickly. But at least if someone was going to have a robot army to wield against the Avengers it was Ultron, since he'd probably be the enemy to do it. But it also didn't make sense for Ultron to put all of himself in one location like that, though I guess it's semi-explained by him thinking he could escape through the 'net.
    So yeah. I genuinely enjoyed it. Don't take my nitpicks above to mean otherwise. If anything the fact that I want to nitpick it so much is evidence of my enjoyment and immersion into the franchise. I nitpick because I have higher expectations than I do for most movies, and that's a good thing. This didn't disappoint.

    Edit for extra thoughts:
    It's been bugging me about how potentially OP this version of The Vision is. Vibranium incorporated into cells, brought to life by Thor's (magical?) lightning, powered by a fucking Infinity Gem... Then I realized why this might end up working instead of feeling off.

    Thanos is meant to be the upcoming supervillain for Avengers 3, yeah? And his appearance and subsequent badass potential have been prepped with cameos in several films so far. So they're lining him up to be a threat cranked up to 11. Which is good.

    But if he's going to have the infinity gauntlet, or even some of the gems, or the tesseract, or whatever else that constitutes one of the pinnacles of power in the Universe...

    I mean, come on, the Avengers would have to approach world-breaking levels of power themselves to make that storyline come off as believable, and that in itself would potentially hurt the rest of the series.

    But now there's a convenient OP infinity-gem-powered Avenger hanging about, and the use/sacrifice of that gem might just be enough to give the Avengers an opening against Thanos that would allow for the storyline to maintain suspension of disbelief. It's a potential ace in the hole.

    And I can live with that. I like it actually, b/c I'd already had some concerns about how they'd manage to make Thanos a serious threat while not completely over-powering the Avengers to combat him.
     
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  18. Johnnyseattle

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    Yeah, there has always been a problem with TV/movies being able to properly capture the struggle with near god-level powers - the list is long and not really distinguished - Jean Grey/Phoenix (still pissed how they handled that), Silver Surfer/Galactus, Superman, and even Peter/Hiro/Sylar from Heroes have generally been a shitshow with how they handled them. Man of Steel finally kind of showed what a fight between two Kryptonians would do to an Earth city, and people hated it. Now we're expected to believe that someone armed with the goddamned Infinity Gauntlet is going to be stopped by a few (relatively) smaller-scale heroes? You're right, you almost need Vision to be powered by... er... I don't know how to do the spoiler tags. :)
     
  19. KHAAAAAAAN!!

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    90% of the criticism was directed at the fact that said city destruction took up 2/3rds of an already overlong movie, not that there was something intrinsically flawed with the premise.
     
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    Just got back. Went in with lowered expectations. They were exceeded. That thing was great. Not as good as the first one, but still great.