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"One Piece" anime and manga

Discussion in 'Books and Anime Discussion' started by CrashLTD, Dec 16, 2006.

  1. Vincent

    Vincent Death Eater

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    Only Kaku was new to his fruit.
     
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    I think influencing the world around them might be more restricted to Paramecia fruits, like Doffy's and Luffy's. An Awakened Zoan would have a different "Awakening," possibly.

    A lot of this is all speculation and such, of course.
     
  3. Vincent

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    It could be that Chopper's drugs directly deal with the frequency that allows someone to become awakened.
     
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    Chapter 544, page 12 is seemingly the only other time "awakening" has been mentioned, specifically in reference to Zoan's.

    Crocodile just says: "They're 'Awakened' Zoan-type fruit users, of course they'll get up again! Their toughness and resilience is something else."
     
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    Ah, i was slightly off, it was Kaku and Kalifa that ate their fruits right right Luffy and co stormed Enies Lobby.

    While I agree with you that it's mostly speculation at this point, Doflamingo would have said if it was only paramecia's that could affect the world around them. Also, just look at Punk Hazard to see what Awakened Logia's can do(which is affect the world around them just like Doflamingo said).

    While that's the only time it was said by name, we were also shown the affects of it with the aftermath of Akainu and Aokiji's fight on Punk Hazard. It explains why the island's climate and terrain were so wildly altered. They were both awakened and affected the world around them with their powers.
     
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    Yeah, but Aokiji and Akainu are both Logia? We've never actually seen an Awakened Zoan, have we? The only reference we have to them is that they're really tough and recover quickly from damage.

    I just think it's a bit reaching to extrapolate that all three wildly different types of fruit "Awaken" in the exact same manner.
     
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    The zoan guards in Impel Down were apparently awakened.
     
  8. Sephiroso

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    And the fight continues. Doflamingo is pure hax. I knew it wasn't over but mother fucker could at least be limping a bit more. I know he can heal himself overtime but come on.

    And Sabo giving that reverse kick to the FACE on Burgess was so satisfying. I'd pay a million bucks for Butters from South Park to shoot him in the dick.

    I'm calling it now as i called it before, we're gonna see a 2nd form of Gear 4th to finish off Doflamingo. Luffy has basically chipped Doflamingo's armor with the strength based Boundman form of Gear 4th. I believe he's going to probably go with a speed based form of Gear 4th to do damage to him faster than his healing can keep up to put him down for good.
     
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    Welp, double post cause i couldn't edit my last one anymore.

    Gotta say im surprised the time has progressed as quickly as it has. I thought it was gonna be at minimum 1 chapter per minute. But we're already down to Luffy only needing 1 minute at the end of this chapter from 4.

    So looks like Luffy is gonna save Viola/Rebecca in the last couple pages next week and the week after One Piece is going on break because Oda is sick, and the week after that(if it isn't xyz Week) we get....more Doffy flashback.

    Lol honestly idk, the beatdown will probably kickback up before we get anymore Doffy flashback if we even get any to beginwith. We've yet to see Doffy interact with Kaidou so, i do think there will be at least a tad bit more flashback before he's down for good.
     
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    Why does it seem like the people trying to slow down Doffy are the ones least able to do so?
     
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    Because Doffy is in such a bad state that someone like Zoro could probably wipe the floor with him instead of slowing him down.
     
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    Zoro would never butt into one of Luffy's fights
     
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    I assume Gear 4th will be like Gear 3rd when it was first revealed. Seemingly useless when used to on its own (like the hilariously terrible drawback gear 3rd had) but broken when integrated in Luffy's general fighting style which seems to tiptoe the line just enough to avoid proc'ing the drawbacks.
     
  14. Sephiroso

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    Called it. Not like it was that much of a shocker but yea...no One Piece next week...mother fucking ugggghhh. Pretty hype to see Luffy end this in one attack though.

    Wonder if its gonna involve Conqueror's Haki + an attack this time. We've yet to see that before. I don't count the clashes Luffy and Don Chinjao makes since that was armament haki and their wills clashing as a side effect not the main proponent of the attacks themselves.
     
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    Crocodile fight all over again. Challenge, get your ass kicked, challenge again. Let's see if this will go to round 3 like that other one did.
     
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    Its already round 3. Round 1 Luffy got kicked out of the throne room and had to make his way up again. Round two just happened with gear 4. Now its round 3 and ending it.
     
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    Nothing like the Crocodile fight to me. Doflamingo has been using evasive maneuvers with Luffy the entire time, using his clone to stall, kicking him out of the throne room instead of fighting him directly then, making him deal with Bellamy.

    Doflamingo himself has done little actual damage to Luffy all things considered. Definitely not like how Crocodile pretty much destroyed Luffy the first time they fought.

    Luffy destroyed Doflamingo in the same way Crocodile destroyed Luffy. Only Luffy's time limit was reached right before the final blow and the rest is history.
     
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    Luffy used his (so far revealed) best move, which leaves him incapacitated for 10 minutes, and failed to defeat Doflamingo with it. He would be dead in a direct 1 vs 1 right now. Other people had to step in and save him. You can argue the same about Bellamy, but Luffy hardly got hurt, and Doflamingo didn't gain any advantage on the fight because of Bellamy.
     
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    Didn't he get to fight alongside The Snotty One against Law alone, though? Anyway, this is different from the Crocodile fights because Luffy is not the underdog here, but pretty evenly matched with Doflamingo, while against Mr. 0 he was pretty much outclassed under every category except guts and luck.
     
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    Let's be real here. The ONLY reason Luffy didn't end Doflamingo with Gear 4th is because Oda wants the story framed in this manner. Doflamingo couldn't do shit against Luffy after he went Gear 4th. We all know Luffy was 1 hit from finishing the fight right when his time ran out. It has nothing to do with Luffy needing to be helped or any of that bullshit. It's just the way Oda wanted the story to go for future events.

    He wants this moment to pave the way for the Strawhats future in the New World. To turn heads in all the New World to realize Strawhat Luffy is a true force to be reckoned with. In order to maximize this feeling, he needs to make as many characters feel hopeless and pin all their hopes on Luffy to save them so the word reverberates throughout the world and this also serves to further Fujitora's personal goal to let shit get so fucked up that the WG has to abolish the shichibukai system.

    Doflamingo didn't gain any advantage by having Luffy deal with Bellamy? Umm, do you not remember that before it was about to be Law+Luffy vs Doflamingo and Snotface? There's a clear advantage by removing one of the fighters on the opposing side. He knew the history they had, he knew Luffy wouldn't want to end the fight quickly, he knew he'd have enough time to deal with Law before Luffy came back.
     
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