I see some glaring issues with A that do sometimes out scum but could potentially cause a big issue if particular roles were targeted and/or make role hunting easier for the wolves.

I vote for 2. Where he has the person claim. The only issue here is if fonti was the one that he used the power on.

 

Sry about that .. i am kinda just spewing unrefined thoughts here to get us somewhere save and sound.

 

I had to double check it was spelled with an S lol I'm with you Jan. Zai sounds cooler.

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Jan which method of confirming Titus are you in favor of and why?

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To clarify on why option A might be bad is that if the role is announced and is the cop or the guy who knwos everything at final 4 it could be REALLY bad for scum to potentially read off how titus posts who he targets. He is going to obviously read him as town so it helps them even further with role hunting. I think that just clarifying WHOM it was and THAT it happened is important and discussion on roles hsould be left for later once the backup poisoner is taken care of.

 

Really? You think Titus would have started a QT with Fonti after screaming they were scum all day? I don't think that world has merit.

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Or we could go with option C. Let the town firm decide and hope she has re calibrated her reads some.

 

true esp if they stack. scum + possible poison + tobi + zai could reduce our number pretty damn fast. thats just more of a reason to out as little as possible for today.

Every town that feels they have to hardclaim today will be another reason for them to use poison (if the poisoner is dead).

If Tsunade hit Jiraiya should she claim that fact (it is a confirmed check for her) or just not mention it? Her having a confirmed town doesnt give out the info who she checked, and the real Jiraiya would know that they are in a qt with her.

 

He* Them* TMNT and Titus is who I mean.

No one is seriously suggesting Titus isn't Tsunade at this point so those two should decide

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Let Titus and TMNT decide. Problem solved.

 

If I was titus role I would do something like that potentially for misdirection sake. Idk if thats how Titus plays though. I play in odd manners on purpose or something straight forward depending on the way I feel/think mafia will adapt.

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I think talking about roles today is dangerous most people are bad at wifom and unintentionally will refer to the roles in ways they wouldn't if they were that role or worse yet aren't good at doing this on purpose when they aren't the role to confuse mafia.

I like the idea of someone just confirming it happens. But I think letting titus tlak about it a bit might be good as he knows more than the rest of us.

 

Nah I think Titus was just misguided. She has a way of "confirming" people that is shit. I love her but so think we need to focus on Citrus and possibly Zenzao as possible scum. Citrus wanting to take over the thread like that and posting something very beneficial to scum is fishy as fuck.

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In fact

Vote Citrus

 

Banks here my mechanics play 101 for that situation:

I think Titus should decide for starters if the role her qt claimed is worth outing today, thus she can.

a. protect a important role while keeping the information that role had.
b. out a not that important role if she doesnt believe the claim, making it vulerable for counterclaims, but also killing that role in the night if she is wrong.
c. Protect an unimportant role and thus keeping mafia in the dark about the importance of the person she is in qt with.

I believe she is most likely in a qt with someone that she thought ws either a specific role a a townread in general.

In the case of her not outing the role we still want the confirmation of said person that they are in a qt, i think.

This is a high value play because while mafia know for sure that tsunade has a qt with someone they dont know if that person is important if not outed, because Titus can easily meta that play, making it a really risky gamble for them of hitting either someone important to us or someone like Sarutobi or Kiba.

Tsunade has all of the other persons information and can out them if that person dies next night.

The only risk in the play is Tsunande missreading her qt partner and thus keeping a mafia alive for the day. (thats why she should be careful with the informations she gives in the qt .. dont tell your rolereads to a stranger only because you have a qt open.

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Well yes We could make the person claim first and then ask titus what to do.

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doesnt change the principal of my play.

My play confirms Titus as long as she is not mafia with the person claiming.

There is a world of a qt with fonti which would be highly unlikely because of how the day ended, but not impossible. That world would need to be reconsidered if it ever comes to it.

 

Whatever Titus does is what she does.

Let's actually get to hunting rather than mechanics.

Citrus -- Explain why you didn't vote no lynch while being online close to / at the time of no lynch.

 

BTW TMNT Great shot btw thanks for listening to me on Rubi You're a boss!

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Titus should never base claiming on the role importance because then not claiming lets scum know its important lol. JAn you're silly.
Pozzai wake up and smell the dead fonti.

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I'm going to read rubicon/X for spew

 

Don't forget Rubicon replaced Xanidel so look there too.

 

Actually can YOU and everyone else who did no lynch with a full RL day left explain why the fuck you didn't wait for everyone to check in?

 

Silly urself Banks .. with what I said Titus has all the options she wants to Meta the play if she townreads her target thus missleading mafia without losing information to town because mafia cant kill both of them in the night.

 

One thing about Xanidel, in hindsight if he actually was the poisoner, is that back while I was still frustrated about people telling me off for wanting to discuss the setup, he offered to theorycraft with me. In hindsight this looks like an attempt to engage me and fish for my role.

 

I can't explain lol I was asleep Don't know why you are asking me to explain what happens in my sleep ROTFLMBO. I know I post a lot but that would be ridiculous

If I was online I would have voted no lynch because it would have given us a chance at scum. If TMNT was lying he would be silently judged. If truth telling then we would have had a chance at scum. Win win.

 

I think it was because Jan accidentally hammered.

Anyway, after going through fontisian's posts, I just wanted to highlight her last one:

Heh.

Anyway.

I need to reread Pozzai/Q/Waco, I think, and put together that's like FOUR HUNDRED POSTS. I hate this game.

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bleh

the first part is @ Atum

 

Seemed like a forced move to me. TMNT claimed Judge, obviously if he was lying about it, we no lynch and the real Danzo hits him. If he was telling the truth - which he was - we still had to do it to confirm he wasn't lying. I wanted to talk through who he should hit, but fonti and titus were arguing about if it was protown to talk or not, and I didn't want to jump into the middle of that.

 

Or...I could interact with them in real time instead...yeah...that sounds like less work.

Vote Pozzai

I'm just gonna test something out real quick.

 

Do you see my point about mechanics now Newcomb?

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Why are you voting Pozzai? Not sure why when Citrus is who Fonti indicated with her last post and his opening trying to out roles? Explain please.