I was going to do a quote-by-quote analysis of everyone’s posts, but fuck that, I don’t have that much free time. Therefore, only notes.

Fluff: Basically confirmed town. While he’s been lurky this entire game, his claim feels sincere and there’s no way scum would do that.

Zenzao: He’s felt and acted town all game and I’m comfortable putting him up there with Fluff.

Snow: More filler posts than op-topic discussion, but isn’t afraid of giving it, so I guess that’s just his playstyle. Probably not scum.

Jan: Has written numerous analysis posts, seems overly focused on the D1 bandwagons. Very active, trying to figure out the game with long, rambling posts. More recently, his “Hail Mary” theory is ridiculous and makes no sense. Why would Waco think the doctor would save him and even if they did, what would that prove? I don’t get it. The fact that Jan is pushing this has dropped him into the Null category.

Citrus: Asked that stupid question to Fluff and when he didn’t answer, proceeded to push for his lynch at every opportunity. Questioned players and pointed out scummy behavior. Kind of defensive when people started to scumread him for buddying with people, posted four posts in a row. Voted for Seratin on D1 and stayed on him. Hard scumread Rubicon. Still wanted to lynch Fluff D2. Voted for Font, believed the day would end with Fluff lynched, but was willing to see Font’s point on how Fluff could be town. Unvoted to play Kingmaker, nearly turned on Rubicon but was willing to see Font lynched, tried to switch to Rubicon when Font claimed. Voted Font on D3, was certain Font / Scott were the last scum. Snarked at Font a lot. On D4, voted Waco. Once Fluff claims, immediately unvotes and votes me, seemingly under the impression that Waco has been town confirmed despite Fluff’s information telling us nothing.

Scott/Waco: Scott scum-hunted and wrote up long, detailed posts multiple times. Rambled a bit and had a nervous demeanor as he kept bowing to peer pressure. Town-read Seratin, didn’t find his posts weird. He then disappeared in D2 and was replaced by Waco in D3, who doesn’t have much of a presence. Somehow only thought Font was slightly scummy on D3. He’s overly defensive and rambling. His argument against Jan is weak and lacking of evidence. Fluff’s role information proves nothing, see below.

A read on the player, whether through a reaction or the wording of their reply.

What scenario?

Fluff, since he’s basically town confirmed.

There is most likely only one scum left and this post was before Fluff claimed. Now that I'm looking at it, I may be misreading this, but using ‘&’ says that you think that Waco and I are scum. Not either/or, but both of us together.

Now that Kalas has confirmed that a survival wouldn’t be announced, your check doesn't really help us. All we know is Waco didn’t do anything last night, and either the scum didn’t kill or the scum tried to kill but were roleblocked or their target was protected. I don't know about a Doctor, but it can't be a Roleblocker. If the Roleblocker roleblocked someone and there was no kill, then why not come out and say who they roleblocked? They have nothing to lose. Unless a Doctor claims, nothing can be proven either way.

You think Waco is slightly town?

How is it a solid defense? You were for a Waco lynch ever since he subbed in, but this sudden flip is weird.

Then what happens when I flip town? Who will you lynch next if you're reading everyone but me as town?

How will mafia know there's a Tracker?

@Kalas: If someone is protected, would the person be informed they were protected?

 

Zzz

Biased reads are biased.

Oh wait, they'd have to be biased if they were fake cue you're scum.

Probably explains why they're written with an agenda. And a healthy side of you're not trying to solve the game. Thanks for addressing my reads at all though.

If Waco no killed, he bought us a mislynch. I don't think he is scum because of this.

 

Mafia might know that there is a tracker because they get asked to send people to make the nightkills.

I am not sure if that is common in forummafia games, this is my 3rd forummafiagame total, i dont know all the mechanics.

I am used to it in Videomafia, that in games where there is a watcher or tracker in the game, mafia have to choose a person to go out and "deliver" the nightkill to the towntarget.

Thus mafia know the moment they have to choose someone to deliver nightkills that there is most likely a tracker in the game.


In case mafia have to deliver kills in the night, i don't think you are mafia just because you don't get a bit of what i am saying.

Will ask mod in qt, don't think he can answer it, but worth a try.

 

How can you town read fluffiness and still want to lynch Waco.goodness gracious

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You've basically confirmed you want to mislynch me.

You claim I'm most likely scum if Fontisian flips town. She flips scum. Oh wait, you still scum-read me. So you lied on that question?

Like this is CHOCK-full of bias.

Citrus: Asked that stupid question to Fluff and when he didn’t answer, proceeded to push for his lynch at every opportunity. Questioned players and pointed out scummy behavior. Kind of defensive when people started to scumread him for buddying with people, posted four posts in a row. Voted for Seratin on D1 and stayed on him. Hard scumread Rubicon. Still wanted to lynch Fluff D2. Voted for Font, believed the day would end with Fluff lynched, but was willing to see Font’s point on how Fluff could be town. Unvoted to play Kingmaker, nearly turned on Rubicon but was willing to see Font lynched, tried to switch to Rubicon when Font claimed. Voted Font on D3, was certain Font / Scott were the last scum. Snarked at Font a lot. On D4, voted Waco. Once Fluff claims, immediately unvotes and votes me, seemingly under the impression that Waco has been town confirmed despite Fluff’s information telling us nothing.

Like my goodness, at least try to state things objectively.

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(this is why I don't think Vira has genuine reads)

 

UNVOTE

Since no one really answered. I think Scott was trying to imply Cop early in D1.

The line from Waco about "Scott's QT is empty" could be both literal and misdirection - if Scott was on the Scumteam, they should have a single shared QT that is Group Scum QT and therefore Scott literally does not have an individual QT to have any posts within.

 

Is this directed at me?

I don't remember this. Link me.

I'll admit this wording is mean. Your question still didn't make sense.

But you did do that?

I'm stating facts. How is this biased?

I didn't take say this mean-spiritedly. You two were commenting to each back and forth.

I don't get why you highlighted some of these things or called them biased. It seems kind of random.

You still haven't answered why you think Fluff's information about Waco is so strong that you've stopped scum-reading him entirely.

 

Yes, I have. I don't believe final scum would no kill in that situation with odd number of players alive.

When Fluffiness was afk due to being sick I stopped mentioning him, and the next time I really focused on him was when Fontisian claimed he was town because of whatever PR reasoning.

Tried to switch to Rubicon - I only swapped because Snowvon's vote put us at a tie

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Rest I can answer when I'm on my computer next

 

Then do you think a Doctor protected him or do you think there was a Roleblocker?

I was writing my notes in chronological order as I was reading. In D1, you were doing that and then you were doing the other things I mentioned. I'm sorry, I didn't mean to suggest you were doing that all game.

I know, Snow did the same thing. It's not a mark against you, I was just summarizing what I saw.

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I meant, do you think a Doctor protected the target or do you think there was a Roleblocker?

 

Vote His fluffiness

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Game's dead at this point. Mod's MIA, obs have to post, half the live list is AWOL. Even the last scum isn't bothering to push a kill at night.

Unvote

Just make up a decision, I don't care at this point. Waco/Fluff/Vira/Citrus.

 

Thanks for ignoring the last page of posts zenzao. Really contributing there

You're not going to get enough votes to lynch fluffiness today, Jan vira and I all won't vote him. Vote someone else

 

Already called Waco the cop so what the fuck ever right now, I'm about done with this. Scott used the term rookie at the get-go, a needless reminder of his status that had already been pushed in the signup thread. Rookie Blue is a cop show that aired on ABC a little while ago. His defensive attitude around defending the line highlighted it to me.

Either Citrus or Snow I peg as the fbi vote in spite his affable tone around Rubicon's lynch, leaning Citrus for his 78 or 79.
Hf is supposedly tracker.
Rubicon was bulletproof.
Lynch in Vira/Jan. Leaning Vira for her super duper extremely happy Zenzao is towniest town to ever town read on me all game despite things that I've been scumread for in prior games. She swallows my anti-RVS shtick with no complaint as just the tip of things.

Vote Vira

 

Whyyyyyy would you try to call all the roles out. Let's not.

Black is an awful color to use for a vote, I didn't even realize you'd voted at first

 

At this point it doesn't matter. We can afford two mislynchs with night kill before MyLo. 7, lynch, 6, nk, 5, lynch, 4, nk, 3 alive D6.

And fuck you, black because I felt like it.

 

Well fuck you too

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That was said in jest, since tone doesn't convey that well

 

Why? What's wrong.

Why me or Jan?

You do realize pretty much everyone else is hard townreading you too, right?

What's this anti-RVS thing?

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Current Vote Tally:

Vira (2): Citrus (#1053), Zenzao (#1091)

The Waco Kid (1): Vira (#997)
his fluffiness (1): Snowvon (#994)
Snowvon (1): his fluffiness (#995)

Abstaining (2): Jan, The Waco Kid

 

Vira : they would be privately informed yes.

Another Vote Count

Vira (2): Citrus (1053), Zenzao (1091)
The Waco Kid (1): Vira (#997)
his fluffiness (1): Snowvon (#994)
Snowvon (1): his fluffiness (#995)


Abstaining (2): Jan, The Waco Kid

Majority lynch is 4.

Day 4 ends at this time.

 

Okay.

If someone was protected on N3, come out and say it. If someone does, then let the Doctor claim to back them up. That will clear Waco, the doctor, and the target.

If we have a Roleblocker and you roleblocked someone on N3, come out and claim. The person roleblocked is the person we need to lynch.

 

I can only rewrite my opinion over and over again, it won't give us new information.

Fluff will not die today, unless there is another information role counterclaiming him.
His claim makes sense, and I am pretty sure we are missing a information role if he is not real.



I am just thinking - who would kill Newcomb n1.

I am sure neither Citrus nor I would have done that.

Zenzaos "I read Scott as cop from the first thing he said" seems way to stupid to be made up.
Pretty sure he would have killed Scott over Newcomb.

Fonti was still on vacation and even if she was in scumchat n1, i am pretty sure she never read the whole d1 anyway.

So the last mafia is most likely responsible for that nightkill, or at least brought it up and fonti nodded it off.

Would Scott or Vira kill their top scumread, if one of them is mafia, because they believes Newcomb to be a pr?!


Von, Vira and Scott are the only people who maybe might think Newcomb is a pr, I think.

The next thing Scott did (that was relevant for the game), after my post #289, where i wanted to bring Citrus read on Newcomb back into everyones mind, is moving away from his top scum newcomb.



Something that I think is a plus day 1 for Vira #303:

Viras response :

7 posts later she switches from Newcomb to Seratin.

#310

That blab read makes her look more towny, because the only other wagon was the mafia rolecop.
As mafia she won't commit that hard to kill her pr day1, i think.

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Sorry if my thoughts are all over the place. I hope you can follow them.

Just looking back into day 1 for a bit.

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From my perspective this game is kinda easy, I think.

I read Zenzao and Citrus even more town than before now.

Fluff is real if not counterclaimed, and the only way i will ever reevaluate him is in final 3. (At which point he has given us another check, either a greencheck or the mafia come tomorrow morning)

7 people alive, i assume we have 3 lynches.

Scott/Waco -> Vira -> Von

Von is the towniest of them by far (and that is mostly a gutread) and I do not think it will come to that point.

 

That sounds like it describes the game state very well Jan, the only issue I have is why did scott/Waco not kill last night?

Short of Waco being afk and forgetting to submit a kill which is possible?

 

Why would anyone else not kill?

Almost everyone gets back on the chopping block with the third kill.

Von, Vira, myself .. not being lynched in final 7/8 is doable for all of those.

Avoiding the 2nd lynch is harder.

Having to survive three lynches is close to impossible.


The only reason for anyone is that they either knew there is some sort of tracker out there and a no lynch is the only option for him not to have a greencheck or redcheck tonight.

The medic world is a less likely hail marry play, with the knowledge of a tracker out there.