He knows, he just refused to edit it because he had to do a little more work in the custom formatting.

 

Win 8.1 had the same thing. On top of which, I've been using this since Vista and had the extended task bar.

 

Nope. Clicking on the clock and going to Date and Time Settings has lots of date format options, but ddmmyyyy is not one of them.

Settings is not the same thing as Control Panel in Windows 10. Settings is what you are presented with up front if you want to change anything and has limited options. Control Panel is hidden away - you can only get to it by searching for it.

If you want to use ddmmyyyy you have to go into control panel and manually alter what options are available in date and time settings.

 

Hmm, if someone hasn't gotten the offer to upgrade, and is thinking on buying the whole thing...

Provided that I know you, send me a PM. I might have a spare key or two somewhere.



More on the central topic, I haven't yet setuped windows 10, but I will be upgrading to the Enterprise edition eventually, with most 'share with microsoft' options disabled.

As for forced updates, I believe there might be more benefit than loss, but it's perhaps because we've had countless problems with clients who do not update their software ever, and we have to write workarounds for already fixed bugs in either the system or browser they are using.

 

I just read this article about forced updates breaking people's computers with Nvidia graphics cards.

And it made me want to delay installing Win 10. It just sounds ridiculous to me, that if Microsoft makes a mistake on it's end, your computer is completely unusable.

 

Ah, it's shit like this that make me feel happy to be a cynic.

Edit - the above article is a bit shitty, here is the original.

The gem in the EULA is this: (only for european users from what I've been reading)

 

Wow. Welp...I'm never touching this then. Microsoft can kiss my ass for the future.

 

I'm pretty sure my laptop tried to update to Windows 10 yesterday, before I shut it off midway to go to bed.

Why do I think this? Because I just logged on and checked my update history, and there's only Upgrade to Windows 10 Home failures and one Windows Defender successful that's listed.

 

A warning for everyone with 7 and 8.1. Turn off auto-update now, assuming you don't have the patches already. Looks like microsoft decided to retrofit everyone with 10's privacy fuckery.

 

The siren call of Linux grows ever sweeter.

 

Sigh. Guess I'm going to have to start dual-booting.

 

Heh. I got scared then remembered that I am now using Linux.

 

A lot of discussion in this thread confuses me. I mean, pirate shit if you want, it's up to you. But to propose that software companies have an obligation to enable piracy, and that they're in breach of that obligation if they try to enforce IP rights... that's just absurd. I don't comprehend the logic at all. Feel free to break the law and try to get away with it, but don't maintain that you have some kind of right to get away with it.

Microsoft designing software that disables pirated software is a completely legitimate aim.

 

The windows 7 and 8 updates are not 'critical' and therefore installed more or less automatically. They are listed as either recommended and one as optional. In other words you have to go into windows update and click the check boxes for them to install. You can also easily uninstall them.

The snooping part of the updates themselves send telemetry data to Microsoft to help them iron out bugs and conflicts. Using windows you have probably had a program crash and received a dialogue box that asks if you want to check for a solution online. In the past those solutions have been few and far between. Them asking for this data is so that they will be more likely to have a fix or even preempt the issue entirely. They recently released numbers saying that windows 10 was installed on over 90000 differently configured pcs. With all those different setups and huge numbers of third party programs bugs are going to happen. How can they possibly both compete against other companies that do collect telemetry data and more besides as well as give you the customer as bug free an experience as they can without collecting any crash logs etc from you? Its not like they are going through your contacts, tax returns, or porn collections. I believe they also said that all data they collect is torn apart and randomized making it anonymous so that they cannot even put it back together figure out what data/crash logs came from whom.

The biggest indicator to me that the privacy outcry over windows is overblown is the big corporate interest in windows 10. Big fortune 500 companies and law firms would not touch it without scrutinizing privacy and security intensely and there are already over a million and a half enterprise users of windows 10. The only reason that it is a story is that windows 10 is a big story in and of itself and journalists look for anything, even lies, to make sensational stories to feed clicks. I also think that public perception regarding Microsoft is generally bad no matter what they do.

 

The problem is that some form of spying is necessary to make disabling pirated software possible. I am not comfortable with this (and I am not using pirated software - I am using solely legal software).

Also, I had enough of false positives with antivirus software to be happy about additional potentially problematic mechanism.

 

Its my computer. I dont think they should enable it certainly, but actively try to prevent me doing what I want with my computer? No.

 

Regarding them catching pirates, they don't go sniffing on your computer. First they specified it was for only games and secondly that they do it through you interacting with a Microsoft online service - like xbox live. Meaning when you connect to play multiplayer they'll have some server side check to see if the game you're connecting with is pirated and make it so you can't play.

The EULA that states they'll try to stop you from pirating is specific to their online services. All the windows operating systems (including 10) are under a different EULA.

 

Well the Enterprise version of W10 does get to disable all call-home features, while any consumer version can't completely turn them off. That's why Enterprise users are fine with switching outside of possible legacy software issues.

 

The only privacy related difference I've read about that is different between windows 10 enterprise and home is that the enterprise version can stop all updates. Which is an ability that I want and think should be in the home version as well. That said, I haven't read anywhere that they don't track telemetry on enterprise and I think I would have. Do you have any source that spells that or any other phone home difference between the windows 10 versions?

 

I don't have a Windows 10 machine myself, so I can't check if it's still there, but images like this have been floating around for a while. Now apparently there are ways for very tech-savvy users to disable calling home completely without owning an Enterprise copy, but it's very hackish.