I'm just kind of confused on the neighbourizing?

 

A neighborizer is a role that can target one person and get a private chat with that person. Neither person chatting is guaranteed to be town.

 

Like I said, I think point 8 isn't that strong. I agree with the rest of your points, and am happy to lynch TMNT too. I just don't want the day to turn out to be most people sheeping fontisian and we don't get much information about people like Elemental and Banks.

 

Stop trying to make it seem like I'm 3rd party.

It's your overproccupation with the idea of me being 3rdparty that makes me think that's a possibility. Especially when you pick and choose parts of what I saw to reply to in an attempt to make me seem 3rdparty.

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Your case is fine. I just want to lynch Jan.

 

??????????

 

I hate being a part of someone else's train, especially when we're probably super far from must lynch.

 

I didn't explain it very clearly (or at all it seems, I remember writing more about it), but I'm not sure how much you can read into his flavour not matching his role - I don't understand how Anubis is apparently a tracker either. Also he hasn't claimed anything in the thread, so right now I have no idea what his flavour is.

I don't agree with your balance point either - the neighbouriser isn't guaranteed to be town (nor is the reporter role for that matter) so I don't understand why both can "confirm themselves" would matter. From a set up spec point of view, the town ascetic is weirder.

Not going to answer why TMNT targeted you for him, but I can understand why he did.

 

Ljtrigirl

Claims town ascetic.
Titus immediately tried to buddy her which does make me feel better about her somewhat. in #167 - Citrus also says she's highly town. I just don't think both of our confirmed, experienced scummers would highlight their other scum buddy as high trust like this.
#114 - Resists any attempt to name her neutral immediately, which is in keeping with her recent post about the role of neutral, and how she'd claim it from the first - again makes me lean townish.

After #167 Banks and her have a good, and what seems spontaneous, slightly at cross-purposes, conversation about Citrus' confusing town read on LJ. Makes me feel slightly better about Banks <-- though as above, not all scum will be buddying LJ so hard.

LJ's had a real hard on for Jan this entire game, ever since the RVS. Is there some sort of interplay between these two in previous games that I'm unaware off? Because Jan has a real hard on for LJ too. I agree with LJ that Jan misunderstood her in a way that's obtuse about the 3P comments- and makes me question whether that was genuine on Jan's part. Jan's been pretty good in this game - so that makes me wonder -> two 3Ps? Loki on Odin cage fight?

In #451, she's interested in the immediate demonturtle voters, Koalas, Titus and Jan. Ultimately, she votes Koalas.

Plotless defends Jan. However LJ thinks Plotless is good (then votes Jan) Vacillates between Jan and Koalas again.

In #558, LJ blows her stack. IMO, she didn't sound fake when she was reacting. Fontisian must be taking issue with her 'Why is everyone voting Demonturtle' --> but that's believable. Lots of people are off the opinion that Titus was just tricking one us newbs into taking the heat of him. And it's not like we're not now all very aware of Demonturtle.

LJ keeps struggling to remember Koalas name when she's in the middle of blowing up (I think twice) but he and Jan are literally the two she's voted for.

Jan does seem to ignore her that's true.

But damn, that flavour. Hmmmm. Where will I put LJ on my list.

I will say, if LJ is scum --> then I'm not interested in Jan or Koalas. I'll want to look at Demonturtle (as always, sorry dudette), Evil, Elemental, Banks. Whoever she's just been straight up ignoring.

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TMNTurtwig

Continuing our race to the bottom, comes our last place poster, and the current wagon. Mr. T.

So obviously, TMNT effectively debuts in 69, with a really defensive OMGUS. He claims it's pretty much an OMGUS and that's all well and good.

This does not gel well with his "My vote on Plotless was always real though." Just because he immediately shows that he's not forgotten he said it was an OMGUS at the time doesn't mean it makes any more sense for that.

The entire recent exchange between Elemental and Plotless and their total "Yeah, I'm town but you're scum", wink wink bullshit, isn't endearing me to them.

Elemental throws some numbers and blanks out and has thus satisfied the Steam achievement - Token bullshit investigation.

I'm really not enamoured with these two now.

TMNT's main post of content is #442: the rest are defensive and Fontisian covered that pretty well.

He names elemental as scummy for low content of posts (first remove the plank from your own eye and you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother's).

Then immediately disarms his scum read of any barbs with his mention to Elemental. Yeuch.

TMNT makes a reasonable and easy point about Evil, 'you'd said you'd give reasoning, where is it?' to paraphrase. Still, it's second scum read on a player for low post count.

TMNT is most munchkin.​

Makes me dubious. I'm not terribly keen on these two but this is very, very noticeable. The scum amongst the rushes.

Rest of this post isn't too interesting.

Ultimately I can see why he has a wagon he's draggin'.

 

I always have a hardon for Jan.

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"#114 - Resists any attempt to name her neutral immediately, which is in keeping with her recent post about the role of neutral, and how she'd claim it from the first - again makes me lean townish. "

Also, I did this in the MafiaUniverse Game where I was scum.

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TMNTurtwig - I am waiting for an explanation of why Koalas is scum if Turtle is.

 

EvilOftenWins

Firstly, if his name proves right and he wins this as scum I will be so angrappy



Secondly, love the new avatar.

Thirdly, and properly:

Late to start, Evil quickly established a real and believable pattern of investigative questioning - which as a newb like myself, showed understandable thought content.

#91, #183, #298, #432.

I feel like sometimes Evil throws his vote out, as he says, to put pressure on. To try and get more information on someone he's not sure on. However, I think he gets called scummy for doing so because he's not trying to stimulate or prod or provoke the person terribly much in his text. It's like he's throwing his vote at their face and hoping they have tourettes.

Ultimately, on reflection, there's not much going on in his posts that make think scum - after seeing Citrus' Snowvon's and Titus' flip.

I don't get the feeling that he's aligned with anyone, and in fact, I'm more interested in the people who were committed enough to vote for him now.

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That's me done for now. Fuck my time commitments. I'm trying to focus on the people I've not thought about quite as much as the others.

Next up probably Eidolonic. 7 posts is too quiet for my liking. :sherlock

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ljtrigirl, thank you.

I originally had a more convoluted example of 'reasoning' there. Then decided it was WIFOM incarnate and retracted it and said town.

Alas:

 

Lol. That's fair.

It's an alignment netural thing for me. Most of the time, I don't like people thinking I'm neutral unless I am. Sometimes I'm cool with it.

 

The reporter role is guaranteed to be town because he flipped.

The main point of neighbor and reporter roles is to have a confirmable claim. Having two town roles with that objective seems inelegant (and not in the usual Eidolonic way).

 

idk. I think that's your weakest point too. I've seen plenty of rolesets where everyone had some kind of ability and a handful of them were confirmable.

 

Hello, TMNTurtwig. You are a member of the Old Gods.

You are John Chapman. You’re a kind man who once traveled the frontier a friend to all tribes. Though you're still a friend to all, you've given up travelling and live on the reservation with Wisakedjak.

"Oh, don't you worry about me, " said Whiskey Jack, "Only those I allow can visit me."

You are the Town Conditional Neighborizer

Once at night you may invite someone into your house to share a qt. However, if you invite a member of the New Gods you will be killed.

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Hence why I wanted to make sure I targeted town.

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I hope that was edited enough to not be breaking the quote your qt rules...

 

Holy fuck. Could you not directly quote things from your qt?

 

It wasn't a direct quote I cut a good bit of it, the flavor is complete paraphrase. The only thing I left was my name and my role basically.

 

Why didn't you mention the conditional part of your ability in our qt?

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Also, why not use it to scumhunt? Say at the end of of Day "If I turn up dead tonight, I targetted x."

 

You might get in trouble for that, TMNT. I think that was a little too much info from your message. Newcomb told me that I had to wander further from the original text and that I was borderline copying.

 

I did mention that the only people I thought were town enough to risk it were you and Lj, but yeah I probably should've. I was more trying to convince you I was town, I didn't really think I'd be on a time limit.

 

If that confirms TMNT as town, then I'm confused over who to lynch. In my book, the more likely possibilities are:

1) Two of Elemental/Evil/Banks/weiyaoli. I have very few reads on these players, so they're who I'd start with. I'm reading Elemental as slightly scummy and weiyaoli as slightly towny, but with the limited information I have I'd say those are pretty shaky.

2) demon and Koalas are scum together and organised the convo earlier to seem town. This is pretty unlikely, as it's a pretty big risk when whatever cop role we have could invest one and determine the other as the same alignment, so I'm gonna say that these two are town.

If TMNT is town it looks pretty bad on me, having voted him twice so far, but he did seem rather scummy to me.