I'm willing to give information on my role and power if needed.

 

Are you Vanilla town or not i.e. do you have a power or not?

 

Yes, I have a power. But I couln't find a name for the type of role it is, so the closest thing to it would be vanilla afaik.

 

Actually don't answer that. I think one VT is enough. And I do believe we have vts so it's fine. Assuming everyone's a pr is the wrong line to go down and I'm
Suspicious of those pushing it.

 

But since that would mean I have no power I guess it would be confusing so let's just say I'm town and I have a power should I claim or not?

 

Oops. Ninja'd. Never mind. Well heading home now will make a bigger post and vote when I'm on a computer. I'm not happy with all the role/mechanic speculation that's happening now in what's seems to be in aid of determining your votes. So so much speculation.

 

Tempus, you have a bit of doubt on ljtrigirl? Have you even read her recent posts? And Koalas isn't a likely scum since
1) Demonturtle(tracker) confirmed Koalas visited fontisian with no immediate ill effects.
2) Koalas jailed me. There isn't any other possible reason for my protection failing.
2a) It's unbalanced for scum to have two role blockers so scum action can be ruled out.

How likely is it that scum have 6 players?

Koalas, can you claim your flavour name?

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Something doesn't feel right about your recent posts, Tempus. It would have been better for you to not tell anything about your power, yet you did.

 

Elemental - correct me if I am wrong, but shadow is a human and not a God.

That was the one character I always believed to be vt in this game, bodyguard kinda fits him too.

I don't think elemental on his own would claim a role AFTER he got cleared by koalas.
He could say nothing and koalas would still defend him because of the block.

But elemental is also never delivering the Kill last night if they can help it.
He was one of the bigger day two scumreads, and likely to be tracked.

Me mid post. Need to get to a PC, this is getting annoying.

As of right now, I would look elsewhere and give elemental the chance do die in his own terms by saving a town. We do have enough lynches left to give him one or two more days.

 

I am a member of the Old Gods. I can't clarify further because I don't know more than that.

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http://americangods.wikia.com/wiki/Shadow

Apparently my brothers are Loki and Thor. wtf?

 

1) Yeah since it is delayed there are no INMEDIATE I'll effects.

2)As I said it is a theory and in that theory there is a perfectly plausible explanation.

3) It is a logical conclusion, if there is a delayed action and Fonti died on N2 then whomever visited her on N1 is the most likely culprit. So I wanted to hear some toughts on that, furthermore if we extrapolate from that idea we can arrive at the theory I mention on 2).

Regarding your 2a) that's fair I suppose we are also almost certain that scum neighbored Fontisian. So they are either 4 with no direct ability role which also seems unbalanced or they are 5. None of those scenarios rule out Koalas in my opinion.

Regarding LJ, it's mostly due to her flavour which would fit an excellent third party, since we don't know if such party is real and if it is the winning conditions so I'm being cautious.

If my posts feel of due to those reasons there you have your answers, if not feel free to ask.

 

I was referring to your decision to speak about your role without actually revealing anything.

On the topic of delayed kills, if Koalas was scum, why would he jail me rather than use the delayed kill ability on another town? If the delayed kill was a one shot thing, there's still a person who has a direct kill ability. It's unbalanced for one player have most abilities since if town lynches that player, scum is pretty much done for.

The delayed kill theory is plausible, yes, but it's more likely if there are 5 scum. Koalas' flavour name should reveal his alignment so I'll hold off speculating on his alignment till then.

ljtrigirl gives me a bad vibe. Day 2 she favoured lynching me and still has her vote on me if I'm not wrong. D2 she was also subtly defending TMNT. Her flavour name makes me ultra suspicious since I haven't found a positive potrayal of Loki in any book/game/series that I've seen.

 

Falling Favour as Flip-Flopping on Flavor Feels Flimsy and Forces Fewer (town)Firms!
Over-discussion and assumption on town roles in discussion lowers town reads to all time low.​

The Blorc with a Byline.​

Discussion between Weiyaoli, Tempus Fugit, Koalas and others saw them dropped down the Blorc Town Likelihood Index (BTLI) as it finished down by three-quintillion percent today.

The argument took place in the middle of the day and was witnessed by one traumatised Town Member who had this to say:

"I think it's appalling the way this mountain's gone downhill. Used to be you could could even go all the way to Mr. Jacquel's for a bite to eat and nobody would judge you, but now you can't leave the house without someone arguing to lynch you or trying to hit you over the head with a sledgehammer.

"People just stand around all day arguing about how all the murderers can melt steel beams, but where are the police and will nobody think of the children?"

.....

Sorry, may have gotten a bit carried away there.

Dropping the conceit, because we all know I'm not the town reporter, I don't think all this speculation about how the power roles may work is helpful. These assumptions are too much, and it's over-extending the reasoning. The more assumptions we make about powers the less we focus on the people and the reads and I don't like that.

Obviously, there's a limit. I can't just assume everyone but me is scum, and I think it's reasonable to say 'huh, I feel this is a bit off game-wise' but it's a bit much at present.

I didn't like Tempus' and Weiyaoli's and Koalas' posts today, much less than I have in the past. Evil, while there, and Plotless still played townily.

But this isn't helpful. So I'll say something that is.

I don't trust Koalas, I don't trust Banks and I don't trust Elemental.

However, Elemental's just made a hell of a claim. He says he is Shadow Moon, the Main Character, regardless of anything, he will get an extra day from me unless someone counter claims him - because if he's lying someone should be able to counterclaim him. I know that exposes Shadow, and that could be their (or his [or some shadowkill perk]) but I think it'd be worth it.

Likewise, Koalas has made a interesting role claim but I don't buy it particularly. But I think it's likely we'll get to Elemental before we get to Koalas. Koalas' reply to my statement wasn't terribly sensible and he was late to the TMNT wagon. He's claimed RL commitments so that's fine and I won't hold it against him.

Banks, where you at. You so scummy? Yeah, you super scummy.

VOTE: Banks

The BTLI:

6 scum? Probably, not. Alphabetical sections, except for the alive above the dead in the first category.

Elemental
Citrus
Titus
TMNTurtwig

Banks
Koalas

demonturtle
Jan
ljtrigirl
Tempus Fugit
weiyaoli

EvilOftenWins
Plotless

fontisian
Snowvon

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Tempus Fugit, I feel you're over-investing in your theory.

Consider:

Lily is a forty-five year old, single mother with two children. She was briefly married for a couple of years as a young woman to a husband she met as an activist whilst at university. Her favourite TV shows are Downton Abbey and Hannibal.

List the following from most likely to lease likely:
a) Lily is a Lawyer
b) Lily works as a bagger in Walmart
c) Lily is self-employed and works from home
d) Lily is an Environmental Lawyer who mainly works pro bono.
e) Lily lives on inherited money.

The point of this is to see if you put d above a. I did. And it's preposterous. D cannot be more likely than A. Both suppose she is a lawyer, but D continues and adds more conditions.

Anyone could be lying to you. This is not the most likely conclusion. It is a supposed conclusion. And, of course, we don't have any evidence to this effect.

Why are you so hung up on this? I find your waffling on your role, and you persistence on this 'logic' in a game of mafia highly unsettling.

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Making more suppositions, extending your logic - extending your conditions. That's what I don't like. There's a simpler explanation.

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In first post *for some shadowkill perk.

 

If one more person says that I'm 3rd party I'm going to rain down the fury of Loki on them.

 

As much as I dislike reading into lore, bodyguard suits shadow. After all, he takes Odin's wounds upon himself, which is as bodyguardy as you can get. I'm keeping my vote on Elemental for now, but I reckon that lynching Banks might be a good idea, because I can't point to a single post that made me stop and think "Hey, that looks like a very towny post."

 

I'm very conflicted about voting Banks. On the one hand, it's probably the best way to get him to actually do something. On the other hand, I think Elemental is scum in every world but the one where there are only 4. He could also be some kind of 3rd party, especially with the lack of counter. From what I've read so far, Old God doesn't make sense at all for Shadow, though I may be proven wrong (if I am, give me like a day to figure that out).

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But would Old God fit?

 

He's not human. Not really. I don't really want to spoil the book, as it's one of my favourites.

 

. . .
It's because you're fourth party, isn't it?

 

How did you know?!?!?

 

Come on guys, vote banks. You don't have to mean it. He'll be cool.

 

Fuck you, how can the main character be anything but the good guy?