So Tempus in reading up on your role for playing tips you never stopped to consider the difference between a role where you can just PM the Mod and one where you have a two Night delay on getting results? Seriously you knew you were a potential Lynch toDay or the next Day. Why did you not shoot last night?

At best we have someone saying you're Town on Day 6 and we have to determine whether or not that's your scum partner in LYLO. Targeting a Town read player just massively increases the chances of Scum NKing them and if more then one player leaves in the Night that could easily be game.

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It's like this is such a terrible play if he's Town but great if he's Scum.

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Plus the only delayed ability in the game? It being a message sent to another player instead of a mod announcement is already a massive nerf to its powerlevel. Giving it a delay just seems unnecessary.

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As for claim order.. Tempus select whoever you find scummiest next. Doesn't matter if they've revealed yet.

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Jan in terms of pure mechanics does this role make sense to you?

 

Vote Count #4.2

Elemental (1): ljtrigirl
Tempus Fugit (1): Jan

Abstaining: demonturtle, Elemental, EvilOftenWins, Koalas, Plotless, Tempus Fugit, weiyaoli

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to soft lynch, and 7 to hard lynch

Day 4 ends in ~25 hours at this time.

 

Considering some of the other claims it does.

Ascetic, desperado and bodyguard all have a downside to their role.
1-shot tracker is kinda luck depend. I can see inbox child getting a twist.

And it would not be a great.deal, if he had used it last night.
Now it looks sketchy as hell.

I had this awesome plan, where we force elemental to protect tempus target and get so much more info out of that ability, but that doesn't work 2 nights in a row.
Maybe tomorrow.

Our decision right now is, do we believe the claim, or not?

A part of me says yes, because, no offenses, but that claim is to elaborate to be made up by tempus alone and I find it unlikely that citrus and Titus made those plans for a claim pregame.
That means he would have a good enough player as a partner, that coaches him through this claim.
That eliminates half the playerpool due to experience.

On the other hand, another PR, really?
We are missing something big, if those PR claims are real.
Citrus role becomes that much weaker with every town PR more in the game.
The neighbourizer is mostly a role to setup a fakeclaim,.which gets weaker the more other townroles are in the game.
I don't know. Either some of the claims are fake our we are missing something rather big.

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All those autocorrect mistakes that I did not change up.
Imagine I did. You can do it.

 

I have a question. There's been what, four alive town PR claims before Day 3 ended? Why didn't the scum target a PR player for the N3 kill, they killed Blorcyn, instead, I just don't get it.

 

Look at the claimed town power roles. Everyone is either under suspicion or effectively vanilla at this point. It's not hard to see scum choosing to hit a near universal townread over one of those.

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Honestly looking at the all the NKs eliminating the town pool has obviously been the priority.

 

Where have Elemental and Evil disappeared to?

I don't think Tempus's claim is something that would exist in this game, but quite honestly it does have the potential to just flat out clear them, so assuming 5 scum we can always focus on finding the other one. I'm going to retread Jan and LJ.

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*Reread

/10 characters

 

Tempus is only scum in a world of five, because a last scum this play would be rather pointless.

To have an excuse to use his power on his partner, he must have given a tiebreak on them before.

His three townreads he gave before were wei, evil & plotless.
If we are afraid of tempus being scum, but we do not want to lynch him, look right there.

That being said, why are you looking into lj and myself, wei?
Any explanation or just some independent scum search.

 

I don't like not having a lynch ready.

Vote: Elemental

 

Tempus claiming this honestly doesn't sit well with me. He said his role was as as good as a VT. If he didn't value it so much, he should have used the ability on the Banks lynch at the latest.

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Was there any particular reason behind this?

 

Tempus Fugit- Are you a God?

Koalas- Why didn't you answer my question/point about you and Elemental's claims.

demonturtle- Why haven't you given your track last night? If you don't want to give it yet, just say so.

Was it biorcin or wei that claimed VT when I asked for one to claim? I think I keep mixing the two of them up.

Jan should claim next.
Then Evil.
Then wei/Plotless.

If I'm forgetting anyone, they should claim after Jan.

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Koalas- You're wrong. Elemental is claiming repeatable, semi provable, very useful PR. Regarless of how he's being read, the minute a NK is blocked, he's basically confirmed.

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Elemental- Why didn't you answer my question?

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I'm still waiting to hear a scum case on me from anyone that suspects me, btw.

 

Under suspicion or effectively vanilla. Please read before you type.

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Ditto for your Tempus and Demon questions. Seriously.

 

Zorya Utrennyaya - representing the morning star - the nice one of the three sisters, the one who does not lie and all that stuff. Older woman, living together with her two sisters and Czernobog.

You might remember that stuff i said it earlier.

Ok so ... If we don't lynch tempus, we should not lynch elemental, because, if they are both real, then tempus can out his target from tonight tomorrow, and elemental can protect that person, that way scum have to either kill elemental tonight to have a chance of hitting tempus target tomorrow, or they cannot kill tempus target.

That only works if both of them are town, but i think they are never the exact scumteam together.
There are possible plays for each of them to be scum and the other town, but in most worlds it ends with at least one of them dying in the night, which is the best thing that can happen to us i think?! (scum having to kill questionmarks off instead of us).

If anyone sees a downside to this let me know, i hope i thought through every outcome, but i might be wrong.

Either way elemental, should have another day at least to prove himself, makes it harder for scum to kill the people they want to kill, if he is real.



LJ - do you mind if a garcia all the stuff that already has been answered?

demonturtle claimed to be one shot tracker. used n1 on koalas.

wei claimed vt when you asked, Blorcyn flipper vt last night.

I don't think the nightkilled will get blocked, i think he sacrifices himself for that person, that is how bodyguard works. It still confirms elemental as town if he dies protecting someone else, and flips.

 

Jan is correct on how my role works. I die if the person I protected on that night was targeted by a night kill.
I protected Koalas last night.

 

Tempus Fugit
Elemental

Plotless
weiyaoli
EvilOftenWins

demonturtle
Koalas
ljtrigirl



I organized everyone but myself in those three categories.
We can lynch in either one, depending on our reasoning.

Tempus and Elemental are the scummiest PR claims, but also the ones that might be able to proof themselves later on.
I would prefer to not lynch in there, if the majority wants to lynch in there, then tempus is the lynch, because elemental is easier to proof, and more use for town, if he is town.

Plotless, weiyaoli & EvilOftenWins are the unclaimed/vt group. I am assuming there is not another pr hiding in there tbh.
Funny enough those three are also tempus highest three townreads, if i remember correctly.
I personally would not kill wei in there, nothing hard, just have all around townvibes from him all game (outside of him asking for tempus target, which is weird, unless he has a plan).
Evil - one of fontis hardest townreads, needs to step up his towngame for me.
Plotless - I like him the least within those 3, but he is still a slight townread.


Demonturtle, Koalas. & Ljtrigirl
Three pr claims.
Demonturtle had a successful d1 track on koalas, either they are partners, she is extremly lucky .. or just real. The real part is the most likely scenario.
Koalas claimed a block on elemental, what he confirmed. Got caught peeking into fontis window n1, claimed doctor for it.
Had an awful d1/2 in my eyes, playing better afterwards.
Only scum if there is some sort of block within the scumteam left (either they had a backup for citrus role or the neighbourizer had the same 2nd ability that citrus had?!)
LJ .. my mason partner not touching her today, if you want to build a case on her, do it yourself.

The last option is killing me. If you doubt me being town, that is a valid choice, esp after the banks rant at the end of the last day.
Won't help you in killing scum, but if you dont trust me and think i should die before final 3, today might be the last reasonable moment, because depending on kills and actions, we might have to look in the possible worlds of two soon.

We have close to not votes at the moment. I will be around for another 3-4 hours, after that my time will run really slim for today.
I would like to hear other people opinions, because i feel like i have too many towns, part of it because pr claims made ppl seem towny and most non claimed prs played way more towny.

The important part is, regardless of who we lynch in the end, NO LYNCH IS NO OPTION, because we will lose a lynch from it (dropping from uneven to even numbers due to nightkill, baaad idea)
Before you decide to no lynch, you will lynch me. (Not saying you should lynch me, but we might need every lynch this game, and losing one because ppl dont show up or find a target would be bad)

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LJ - if you are around, help a buddy out.

My biggest problem is that, after killing 3 scum early on, the game slowed down hard, and everybody left looks kinda towny.
There is a chance that there is only one scum left, so everybody looking towny makes sense in a way, but this is a bit much.

What is your opinion on evil?
I feel fonti alone tried to clear evil basically, i need to reread him tbh, because i dont remember that much in the last day(s).
And i am really bad at clearing people because of their interactions with known scum, which is the main reason of the clear, i think.

 

I'm deciding between still lynching Tempus/Elemental or building a case on LJ/Jan instead. I'm not sure I have the time to do it before day ends is the problem and even if I did if enough people will be online to vote and Lynn someone.

 

Why those pairings wei?

Do you think those are possible scum pairings or why exactly?

Just asking for a friend.

 

I don't like your claim, and I'm just putting this forward in case I get in a car crash or something. because we need to at least try lynch the scum. If we don't vote, we lose.

 

If Tempus/Elemental are my scummiest alone - but they've both claimed roles which can help to confirm them.

So my next pool of less town townies are Jan/LJ.

Not been thinking of possible pairs of scum yet.

 

How confident are we of there being 4/5 scum?

 

It's possible I guess that the scum pairing is exactly Elemental and Tempus I guess though.

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I think 4 scum would be too easy in this game in terms of the numbers of mislynches we get - 4 mafia / 1 Indy or 5 scum sound more likely to me. Either way, we should try to assume worst case, so we don't carelessly miss if it's LYLO.